peacefuljeffrey

You might be onto something. I haven't spent the time considering the pros and cons of it, though, and don't want to jerk a knee in support of it until discussion has taken place regarding what could be wrong with this plan. Suffice it to say I agree with what you said about the typical person being too fucking dumb for me to be willing to put faith in his verdict. We are talking about people who could very well listen to hip-hop, watch American Idol, follow the Atkins diet blindly, or read Danielle Steele novels. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Homicidal (learn how to spell it from my example, please) would mean that I have killed someone -- a human being, specifically. I have not, nor is it my desire or intention to. If you get banned, it won't be because I have insulted your world, it'll be because you crossed the line into making personal insults. Over that, I have no control. And you will notice I have refrained from name-calling or making personal insults at you. Learn from my example yet again. I've been banned for crossing the line here. I learned from the mistake. I still make posts that are controversial (mostly to brits, but that's neither here nor there), but I don't make direct insults at individuals on this board. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Do not give you a smartass reply why? Because you are such a badass british dude and you're gonna come all the way across "the pond" to "do me for that?" What makes you think I take you at all seriously? Or care what you think? Or fear you? I didn't say anything racist at all, in fact I never mentioned a race. I mentioned FACTS. So sorry if you find yourself unable to handle them. Not my problem. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Ah, another personal attack, different Brit this time, though. What is it about your countrymen's inability to refrain from breaking the forum rules against personal attacks? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Looks like it's time for you to get banned again for making personal attacks. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I should care that YOU think that no one cares what I think? What makes you think what YOU think is so important -- to me or to anyone else? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Quite frankly is in bad taste. To suggest that any nation suffering from a disease they dont want is ruinning the world shows just how twisted you are. YOU deserve to swap places with one of them for such remarks. Bullshit. I am not one of the people infected with HIV who is so ignorant that he believes that having sex with a virgin will CURE him. That goes on over there. What is so fuckin' hard about safe sex that they can't manage it? Oh, I forgot, I'm talking about cultures where they think it's okay to get what they want by going around in roving mobs hacking people to death with machetes, or lighting gasoline-filled tires around people's necks. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You mean you read my moaning?! I'm flattered! Just a minute ago you were saying it was too long to bother with. Yup. Sure. Absolutely. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

It's nice to see you have such high regard for other European countries, that you suggest they are only a hair's bredth from "joining the sides of the terrorists." My country most assuredly is the great nation of the world. You're not for it? You seem to be cheering the possibility pretty heartily to be claiming you're not for it. You're so right: Islamic terrorists have absolutely nothing to do with it. The world is also not being ruined by those countries that export addictive narcotics. It's also not being ruined by those countries where as much as half the population has HIV, and growing. It's also not being ruined by countries run by feudal warlords, nor by totalitarian communist regimes that have nuclear capability. Nor is it being ruined by countries that are overpopulating at a staggering rate when they can't even nearly feed and inocculate the people they already have. It's all the fault of the U.S.A. Yup, guns never helped anyone defend life and freedom. Especially not the ones we donated and sent over to England to keep the Nazis from taking over. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You're not even on the same page as your british brethren, who keep insisting that all the knife I should ever need -- 3 inches or less -- is plenty legal to carry in England. So which is it? Are you lying/misinformed, or are they? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

It's still counterfeit, and as such, is reprehensible to me. I suppose you buy bootleg/counterfeit DVD movies from China without remorse for the rightful owners of those products, too? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

What's funny is you think that a guy who got into a fight and after it was over was found to possess a weapon he did not use in the fight should be punished, specifically for having had the unused weapon in his possession. That is, like, the definition of irrational as well as illogical. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Only for not having had enough guns and knives as a kid. We stopped being aptly called "colonials" when we started being aptly called "victors." Does it ever irk you that if only your king hadn't been such an arrogant asshole prick to us, your country would actually own this wonderful land we now call independently our own? -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

There is no such thing as "good counterfeit stuff," particularly when it comes to knife knockoffs. It's illuminating to see that you support the idea of ripping off those who have patented and/or copyrighted their designs. This takes legitimate earnings from those who deserve them. And on top of that, you generally get cheap, shit merchandise of inferior quality. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Boy! You and these other people sound like pretty shitty shots! They didn't hit you, and from your choice of wording, it sounds like you didn't hit them! Boy, it sure sounds like your country has a hard time staying out of armed conflict. I just don't see where you get off making this kind of assertion about someone you don't know. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

It's so nice of you to be such a cooperative victim. I just wonder what you do to guarantee that the same sort of person who would pull a weapon on you and rob you also will let you go without harming you just because you so sweetly handed over your own personal property (no doubt also with your name and address in them). Really. Are you comfortable counting on the better nature of a person who just robbed you? That seems like "stupid logic" to me. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You need to back the fuck up and back this the fuck up. Where on earth do you come up with this statement?! CITE please! We're not banning simply being out anywhere at all carrying such a knife. And I am inclined to think that you have the same such policies in place in your airports and courthouses as well. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

'When in Rome, do as the Romans do' - simple, eh? Simple but stupid. If they were buggering boys in Rome, would that be what is recommended behavior? Just because they have this fetish for being defenseless and dependent on their government, doesn't mean I have to be. I guess the solution is I just have to do without visiting England. ... And there was much rejoicing. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

You're right. The legislation they're whinning about dates back to 1953. I can't be arsed to check what the situation was before that but is likely to have been similar. We have rules prohibiting the carrying of weapons in public places dating back something like 10 centuries... I simply can't fathom the sudden interest in changing the status quo. You have rules going back before the knights-and-armor period that prohibit carrying of weapons? What did all those medieval knights carry? I think you mean you have rules to govern the commoners -- your history is replete with examples of the elite social classes having more rights than the rabble -- a situation that in America we deplore. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

(emphasis my own) Yes, I am telling you that - any knife with a non-locking blade less than 3" is specifically excluded from the act and as such it is perfectly legal to carry it. I asked about a Mini-Griptilian. You're saying the difference between freedom and prison is the fact that it has an Axis Lock device to keep it from closing on my fingers during use? That's enough to send me to prison, even though it's a modest 2.75 inches in blade length? You know what? You have cameras watching your citizens on nearly every corner. I don't give you long before you have devices on those corners scanning people for chemical residue matching drugs or explosives, or metallic objects. Of course, what would have to result is a police lockdown of the corner and the detention of all present until it can be determined who has the residue (or the bulk quantity) on them. Your society is clearly headed in that direction. Ours is too, lamentably, but at a far slower pace than yours is, and with much more resistance from the people, and our problems in part derive from the example of capitulation to government intrusion that you are setting. The same could be said of a person walking home from a pickup cricket game who is carrying a cricket bat. You are flinging around the term "large knife" as though it is a settled matter. I argue that a 4" blade is not a "large knife," nor is my 3.75" Spyderco Military extraordinarily large, but it would have me in trouble with the british law. Nor is it settled that "I don't need it." I don't have to justify a "need" for something that I am not using to harm someone. What if I wanted to walk around town with a flask full of gasoline? I certainly don't need it; it can be used to do FAR more damage than a knife can; there is no law against it. What if I just like it, and just like the feeling of carrying it. What if I admire its engineering and construction, and like to have it with me, possibly to use, possibly to admire, and possibly to show off? Who are you or the government to treat me as though I am already guilty of the worst-case actions I could theoretically take? I refuse to be limited in my life because of the stifled imaginations of people who think like you do about what I should be free to do. And you fail to make a case for why I should capitulate to YOUR limitations just because YOU don't see what I see. But people who carry an item on the off chance that they may end up with a need to use it during an average day, they're fucked. Is that it? I don't use my Spyderco Military every day. It's with me every day, though, because I can't necessarily know and prepare for which days I'll come to have a need for it. You keep saying "use a 3" knife...use a 3" knife..." as though agreeing to being limited to a 3" knife actually protects those I might otherwise hurt if I were allowed to carry a 3.75" knife. If you could demonstrate that knives 3" and under did not have the capability to be quite lethal, I might go a certain distance toward agreeing that the 3" length limit made sense and were something I could abide by. But you cannot. A 3" knife, even a 2.75" knife, can indeed be EXTREMELY lethal, so what are you saving by limiting people to that length? Not a goddamned thing. It is non-disprovable that taking an over-length knife off a person and prosecuting him even before he has shown the slightest propensity to cause harm with it has not saved anyone from harm. I can easily argue that you are unable to prove that the over-length knife would have caused harm had you not confiscated it and charged the carrier. Sure it does. You're inured to the idea that the government should put a myriad limits on your freedom for the claim that they made the public safer. I, as an American, reject that notion. You still have not demonstrated to my satisfaction that a lock makes a 3" knife sufficiently more dangerous as a weapon that it must be banned despite its value as a safety device for the user. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

No. If those items are Knives / Guns or other deadly items.... that I dont need other than to escalate violence in a confrontation. You didnt respond before... so I'll ask again. Your sword carrying church attacker... do you think he should be allowed to carry his sword up until the point he firsts uses it? That's funny, because I (and most Americans) do not regard fighting back against deadly physical force in order to save our own lives "escalat[ing] violence in a confrontation." I didn't say the sword-wielder should be allowed to carry it, I was talking about the failure of laws to govern and control crazies. But that's what laws against the average person carrying an average knife are attempting to do, so they are doomed to failure AND they have the corollary consequence of preventing people from lawfully having useful items. -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

I'm betting that the next thing they'll do is CRASH a bunch of times while TRYING to do what you said... -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Maybe she exaggerated how many days she was "out of commission" just to be able to avoid having to have SEX with you for a bit longer than she otherwise could have... -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

This is an easy one: It's because I'm so good at making them have orgasms! -Jeffrey -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

Awww, that's sweet.