Conundrum

What about a shapeless mass of cells? A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process. In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby? And is a newborn truely a person, so if you throw them in a dumpster, and they never develop a personality, or emotions....... That did not answer my question. At all. Is it truely a baby 1 day before it is born, and should abortions be legal then? Still don't want to answer eh? It's simply yes or no. You said a SHAPELESS MASS OF CELLS (NOT a baby 1 day before it's born) is a "baby is process". If you stop that process when it's a "shapeless mass of cells", does it never become a baby? The funny part is that you keep avoiding the obvious answer. The even more funny part is that you contradicted yourself and don't want to admit it. I believe that a group of cells that will become a baby is as much alive as a newborn who will evenutally have emotions and opinions and become an adult is alive. So it's not a baby yet when it's a shapeless mass of cells. Thanks for answering.

What about a shapeless mass of cells? A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process. In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby? And is a newborn truely a person, so if you throw them in a dumpster, and they never develop a personality, or emotions....... That did not answer my question. At all. Is it truely a baby 1 day before it is born, and should abortions be legal then? Still don't want to answer eh? It's simply yes or no. You said a SHAPELESS MASS OF CELLS (NOT a baby 1 day before it's born) is a "baby is process". If you stop that process when it's a "shapeless mass of cells", does it never become a baby? The funny part is that you keep avoiding the obvious answer. The even more funny part is that you contradicted yourself and don't want to admit it.

What about a shapeless mass of cells? A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process. In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby? And is a newborn truely a person, so if you throw them in a dumpster, and they never develop a personality, or emotions....... That did not answer my question. At all.

I wasn't asking you.

What about a shapeless mass of cells? A shapeless mass of cells that is contnually replicating forming things like lungs and a brain and arms, and legs.......I call that a baby in process. In process? So does that mean that if you stop the process it never becomes a baby?

Wait, I'm confused. You said that "life" (i.e., a baby) begins at conception. Now you're saying that if it has arms and legs it's alive enough to not be killed. So what about before that?

Do you think that a newborn that is thrown in a dumpster and dies within an hour truely has "knowledge of its own existance"? LOFL at comparing a zygote to a newborn baby! You're kidding, right? It's a matter of degree. Tell me what magical thing happens that makes it a life. Is is when the heart starts beating, is it when you can see little arms and legs, is it when it can survive outside of the mother with assistance of a ventilator(premie), is is when it can survive outside of the mother without any assistace other than the mother? To me I can tell you the "magical" moment life starts and that is conception. You're confusing "life" with "baby". A group of fetal cells that are a week old are alive, but they are not a baby. edit to add: but that's just my opinion on the matter

Fixed it for you. That was a very lame attempt to disparage those who disagree with you. No I said it right, you are either pro (for) abortion or anti (against) abortion. No, not really. I don't encourage abortions, but I stand for the right to choose if you want one or not. It's entirely different. You are either for (pro) someone's right to have an abortion or against (Anti) that right. That's not what you said. You said FOR ABORTION, not for the RIGHT to have an abortion if you choose. Are you not seeing the difference between the two?

Do you think that a newborn that is thrown in a dumpster and dies within an hour truely has "knowledge of its own existance"? LOFL at comparing a zygote to a newborn baby! You're kidding, right?

Fixed it for you. That was a very lame attempt to disparage those who disagree with you. No I said it right, you are either pro (for) abortion or anti (against) abortion. No, not really. I don't encourage abortions, but I stand for the right to choose if you want one or not. It's entirely different.

Does anyone else see the problem with this line of thinking? Life starts with conception. Life is simply the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional being from a dead body. It doesn't not mean that a group of cells that are a week old is a "baby". Of course, that is an opinion that may differ from person to person, which is why the debate of whether abortion is ok or not will never end.

Both show a serious lack of self discipline, not to mention irresponsibility. If you need to keep having abortions, maybe you should close your legs. If you need to keep getting tummy tucks, maybe you should go to the gym (and stay there since gaining and losing weight is what most people get tummy tucks for).

Unfortunately for men, the reality is that they really don't have a choice in the matter after the woman has become pregnant. It's not fair, but thinking about who you put your dick in should help cure that problem some. So women and men are not equal........ And? What's the debate? equal rights, Equal pay for equal work, women in the military, Glass ceiling........there are a lot of debates that say that women and men have equal rights. It really depends what we're talking about. It's impossible to be "equal" for everything. Anyone who thinks men and women are completely equal on all levels is a bit loony.

Unfortunately for men, the reality is that they really don't have a choice in the matter after the woman has become pregnant. It's not fair, but thinking about who you put your dick in should help cure that problem some. So women and men are not equal........ And? What's the debate?

Unfortunately for men, the reality is that they really don't have a choice in the matter after the woman has become pregnant. It's not fair, but thinking about who you put your dick in should help cure that problem some.

I'm not seeing how that is relevant to this topic. Maybe I should start drinking coffee.

I don't drink coffee. Are you saying that cavemen didn't have abortions so why do we find it necessary to have them today?

Gee it works for the cavemen huh?

So do you let him stay on the couch even when you want to sit or do you make him get off? As for when you're not home... get some large plastic chair roller mats, you know, the kind with the spikes underneath to grab the carpet. Turn them upside down and put them on the couch when you leave. The dog won't want to lay on them.

I don't think anyone should be forced to bear a child; not just rape victims.

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We could swing by and say "hi." That's a good idea.

You aren't far from me, which means Bolas won't be far from me. I don't know about you, but that makes me scared.

Wow, I am so very sorry to read this. My deepest sympathy and condolences are with you and your family.

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