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Well, I'll vote for the Ranch since my folks live in north Jersey and I've been meaning to jump there for a while. Anyone going to make the poll, or should I do it? [edit] though it would be sad to drive right by and not get to hang with the PMS or do that hybrid with Rosa... witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Damn and I thought those last four were actually gven to the four posters that wear them. I thought mighty mouse was for the repost police, that big chief was "hey, keep tryin" and Guru was "you're such a freakin post whore" Geronimo does make sense as the next step from Pooh Bag though. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

where is the list? who is the keeper of the list? does he get beer? if so, can I be him for a weekend? just thinking about another thread.....you know, with all the speical names going around, I wonder if I could get Pooh Bear instead of Pooh Bah. I always liked pooh bear. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I'd be happy to drunk dial you, princess. Is there an official DD list somewhere? There ought to be... I'll add my cell to it if there is one. I feel so speical, I actually had a request for my number from good looking woman. ps - nobody point out how sad it is that that is a major accomplishment OK, basking in it again. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Maybe they are playing with the numbers again. How many people with the title Mighty Mouse do you know of? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

One is people exercising their rights that are recognized by their home state elsehwere because there is some administrative snafu going on. The other is people going to a place that is breaking the law to make a point, and to try to get new rights recognized that neither their home state nor the destination will pay credence to. In one place the battle is over and the mop up is going on. In the other, the battle has barely been joined. I honestly don't see the similarities other than interstate actions. I mean the people in Missouri aren't even traveling. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

OK, don't pull a kallend here. Since no one from Missouri has responded, and you're not from there, go with the flow. Are they the same, or are they different? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I've been looking forthat hazmat sheet forever. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!! witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Do you know what a ballcock is? Anyone using a house [with running water] has had problems with one. Did you know that? Just because you have problems with it, doesn't mean you know what it's called. Remember, people using dropzone.com are probably in the top 10% with regards to computer literacy, so you get used to having people around who know a lot more than the rest of the world. When someone from the next 10% down decides to start using a computer and is learning this new world, don't look down on them. Stupidity is permanent. Ignorance can be cured. Think about the last time you were around car guys. Did one of them treat you like shit because you didn't know rotors from discs? Or the last time you were in a gun shop, did someone act like you were an ass because you couldn't tell ejector from extractor? I hang with both groups, so I know these things. When there is a new guy to the group he will always know less than the least informed among us. Give him time, he may show you up someday. I've also felt the glares when you don't know something "obvious." How the fuck would I know a skip from a sloop until someone told me? My point in this long winded thread: just go easy man. There's no need to reject someone based on knowledge. Teach them. I promise it feels good. That's why I never get frustrated with whuffos, except when they tell me I'm a threat or irresponsible. I've turned three whuffos into jumpers. I happen to think that's a big leap better than just having three more whuffos who think skydivers are all assholes because I lost my temper. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Well hell, I'd be glad if they just cleaned up the poison ivy/oak/sumac that is around so many school. when I was a kid even walking with 10 feet of the stuff put me in intensive care. Now it's peanut allergies leading to zero tolerance of all nuts. Well I have to tell you banning nuts won't help, because they're not nuts, they're legunes. (sp?) Are they going to ban poorly kept lawns anywhere in school zones? I mean come on, some kids have really nasty hay fever. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

[hijack] CSS Easter, that's APR 7-12, where I hear Sky 1 will be in attendance. I call REUNION [/hijack] has anyone got anything left from the boogie? I have something left. Remnants of a hangover were brought on by amateur boxing last night, but that's a whole other thread. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

OK, maybe some background info is in order: Missouri legislatures passed concealed carry law and sent it to the governor. He vetoed it. The legislature overrode his veto, making it law. So they did pass CCW law in Missouri. The law was postponed by a judge on constitutional grounds. It was appealed to the state supreme court, where the court said the challenge was bogus, and upheld the law. The question comes in where the court said some county sheriffs don't have to issue permits because of a funding clause in the state constitution and some funny wording in the law. But the fact remains the state has concealed carry now. Read the full text of both articles, they may explain it better than I do. And all that's why I don't see the similarity. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Um, bill, number ten says the states can do as they please concerning marriage, if you just look at the amendment. and if there is a new amendment, that qualifies as enumerated in the constitution. if you want to complain about "removing" marriage rights, take it up with the states. they are the ones with the power to change things, according to law and practical reality. and I still really don't see the connection this has to the Missouri situation. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

What happened to federal fair access requirements? And what's this crap about low flying planes? I thought jumpers were trying to get to altitude, not annoy the neighbors with flybys all day long. In my experience, low flyers tend to be hotshot pilots with nothing better to do than "impress" the locals. What's with the waiver they received, and what makes it invalid now? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I really don't see it. It would be similar if Californians went to a state where gay marriage is legal, then came home. The difference is is specifically banned in CA and specifically granted in Missouri. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

That's actually a good question, and I'm writing the AL Atty Gen along with my senators and state legislators. [it's easy when they all get the same letter] It'll be interesting to see what they answer, and when. I'm not too sure I actually want to see how they rationalized away this part of the constitution, though. It was hard enough reading the US Supreme Court trying to rationalize away the first amendment with respect to the McCain Feingold Campaign Finance Reform law. It took them 300 pages and I didn't see one sentence explaining clearly how it was a good idea revoking free speech of everyone except candidates and media news corporations. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

You think pro rights people aren't fighting this tooth and nail on every front they can think of? There's no way around the way things are right now, short of a federal law requiring reciprocity. Article four doesn't apply here. The reason states don't have to recognize other states' permits is because each state has different requirements for getting their permit. States with more restirctive processes have the right not to recognize a permit from a state more liberal than their own. Hence the Atty Generals work things out and states have reciprocity agreements with each other. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

In this case, a state granted/recognized the citizen's right to carry. There is a paperwork snafu. In SF, the mayor is breaking state law to grnat what is specifically prohibited. No one in Missouri is breaking any laws. So what's similar? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

It was kind of harsh, but I don't disagree. I'd see it as karma coming around. After all, "Heaven helps those who help themselves." witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Actually, states control who they share concealed carry reciprocity with. Some states recognize permits form 25 or more other states. Other states recognize their own and no others. 5 states still issue and recognize no concealed carry whatsoever. Having a permit is on state has no bearing on another state's soveriegn right to accept or refuse it in their own borders. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Not sure where you're going here quade. (A) There's already an amendment in the NRA's favor, it just get trampled on. (B) This is a state government issue. (C) The state passed a law starting Right To Carry legislation, over the veto of the Governor. Then some anti gunners sued saying RTC was against the state constitution. The state supreme court ruled against the anti gunners, but put up a muddled maybe in the paperwork. That's why people are going to Pennsylvania, a state that shares reciprocity with Missouri, rather than wait for everyone to sort out the exact steps. It's also cheaper in Pennsylvania ($20 vs. up to $100, or more after the ruling). The citizens are going outside the state so they can appreciate the rights the legislature granted them while the courts and sheriffs figure out the particulars. So is it me, or is this the exact opposite of the SF gay marriage thing once you check the facts? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

You reminded me of an old cartoon. I managed to dig it up, so here it is. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Bill, sometimes I could just kiss you. [good thing you're in California, and it would take longer to get there than come to my senses] witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

How about if they rallied for concealed carry for teachers? See how the survivors of Appalachian Law School and that Pearl, Miss high school feel about that idea. [since you'll have trouble finding the facts, the law school shoot up was stopped by a student with a gun and the high school shooting was stopped when the assistant principal went to his car and retrieved his gun; in both cases the shooter lived to see trial] What would be so hard about taking away a toy gun until after school? If it were a real gun and the kid had intent, do you think a threat of expulsion will slow him down. Do you think it would have stopped Harris and Klebold? (sp?) And FYI, some parents from Columbine testified before congress saying you can't blame guns, that you have to blame parents and society. Good luck with that law suit. Dozens have been thrown out, more are on the way out, and I think 38 states now have laws barring such lawsuits. You can't blame a manufacturer of a legal product if it is misused. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Do a search, no one wants to get into that again. If you'd really like to discuss it again, start a thread. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*