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Actually, the the school shootings are done by severely disturbed children. Of course, you've probably never heard of a situation where a school shooting was stopped by a citizen with a firearm, but is has happened. Appalachian Law School is the first example to come to mind. Recent epidemic? You mean recent media coverage epidemic. School shootings have reduced in frequency much the way other violent crimes have since the 70s or so. Something to consider when you see news coverage next time. From 1990 to 1995, the homicide rate and the violent crime rate both declined, but media news coverage of murders increased 240%. Ever hear the editors' slogan, "if it bleeds, it leads?" witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

No, it doesn't. Wait, that's not true. Let me try again: No, it doesn't, unless that 'anyone' is assaulting me or mine. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Well, the day someone invents one, you just let me know. He said "polymer framed" pistols. Glocks are polymer framed. They started the revolution. They also have about two pounds of steel resting on top of the frame. That is called the slide. There is also the barrel and the inner workings of the gun. Again, all metal. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

quade. I managed to simply read after my posts on the first page, but this post just made me have to reply. They were mowing people down, but the banned firearms are only used in 2% of gun crimes? Quade, the Assault Weapons Ban applies only to semi-automatic rifles. These are not machine guns. They do not "spray bullets." They fire one bullet every time you pull the trigger, and one bullet only. These terms of the AWB are all about cosmetic features, not funcitonal ones. The AWB bans a firearms having two or more of the following: bayonnet lugs, pistol grips, collapsible stock, flash suppresor, and threads for a sound suppresor. So the industry kept making the exact same semi-automatic firearms, but without those external features. These firearms look like military rifles. Gun control advocates have commented on using the ignorance of the public and taking advantage of the fact that people don't know the difference between true military assault weapons and these semi-automatic cousins. Actually, they are more popular now because they are harder to get and have become collectors items inaddition to any other values. Also, these firearms have not become less common in crimes than before the AWB was passed. They still constitute just 2% of gun crimes, same as before the ban. You ridicule people quoting the NRA, but you post from the brady campaign? These people are the biggest gun ban organization around. THe NRA has training services, safety courses, environmental and conservation efforts, and more. The Brady people are nothing but straight up gun banners. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Common misconception. He had it right. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

(1) A Glock 17 holds (if I'm not mistaken) a magazine capable of holding 17 9mm rounds. This law said no magazine could hold more than 10. What was the rational for 10? Is there some magic number than 10 rounds will fail in a crime but 11 or more will create a slaughter? Will 11 rounds turn ordinary gun owners (some of the most law abiding people in the cournty if you go by CCW records) into boiling cauldrons of homicidal rage? (2) I haven't met him, but I bet if you came across him in person you would think he was pretty chill. (1b) The law also banned a lot of semiautomatic rifles* because they looked like machine guns. Not for their rate of fire. Not for their ability to shoot. But for cosmetic features, a pistol grip, a collapsible stock, etc. * - semiautomatic means pull the trigger once and one round fires. machine guns are fullautomatic, meaning as long as you hold the trigger, it will continue to fire. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

That would be my sorry self trying to get that crap off me. I just want to know who picked mustard. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

you know what the dates are for that? [I'm supposed to tell Casie, but I haven't bothered to loolk them up yet] witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Simple. They wanted to kill the original bill, but couldn't do it in a stand up vote. Almost sixty senators cosponsored the bill. They could however, load it with so much crap that no one would vote for it. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Soffe makes the best shit. Their od tshirts are damn near indestructible. A free supply of those was definitely a cool thing to have. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Yep, somebody decided that training with the light stuff was a good idea, and somebody else made a killing. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Last guy that acted like that almost got whopped by two very badass little girls. Watch your mouth. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

So at this show nobody was buying anything? Boy, the vendors must've been pissed. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Same here, I have a pretty well made import clipped to my pocket right now. Nice little folder, thumb stud openner and a neat little lock at the base of the blade. Love the one hand operation. Holds an edge pretty well too. Oh yeah, and I've never stabbed anyon with it either. Boxes, rope, tangled lines, even a shirt once. Nope, no people. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I love it! Now two calibers is a good thing. Let's not forget that a .357 Magnum will fire .38 Special with no extra cost or parts. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Don't forget our puppets in South America. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

besides, it's another chance to make you her beer bitch. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Norwegians are ignorant. That used to be the case in England, too. Since they banned guns, the bobbies are carrying submachineguns on patrol. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

He's gone in 10 to 60 months on votes of the citizens. Slightly different from being subjects to a crown. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Tell that to the citizens, or should I say subjects, in England and Australia where they banned basically all guns, and their crime rates soared, and new crimes were invented. (see "home invasion") Funny, a study done by a very anti-gun agency (CDC) has failed to find any positive effect gained through gun control. Another study done concerning giving people the right to choose (Lott) found that giving people the choice reduces crime. The problem is not guns. The problem is criminals. Don't blame the tool for the action. You obivously DON'T know what it's like here, because if we really had legislators who only wanted to register firearms, I wouldn't be against it. BUt the fact is they have stated repeatedly that their goal is complete civilian disarmament. If there were records of other countries licensing cars, then confisctaing them without causeof compensation, you can be damned sure I'd be against it here. The fact is registration has led to confiscation. Americans don't want that. We want to be able to make the choice for ourselves. The DMV is a pain in the ass, and it is not friendly to individual choice, but there is no constitutional right to drive, no common law right to drive, no centuries of religion and tradition of the right to drive. Now back to our regularly scheduled information sharing. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Bill, the constitution is subordinate to international treaties in international affairs. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Usually the onion has farce, hyperbole, and a couple comedic lies in its stories.... witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Yes, but he's for it, too. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Well, you could say he's pulling a Kerry on this one. He said he wouldn't sign anything but a clean bill because he wants it ot get to him ASAP. Well, since that didn't disuade the hoplophobes, it may reach his desk. I doubt he'll sign it. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

It's only a weapon if it's used against an enemy. No one is saying it's not a weapon. We're saying it is a tool that may be used as a weapon. It also has several other "primary" uses. I have to tell you, I've used a weapon for every primary purpose Kev listed, but never once for the one you listed. Hmmm. Also, a gun does not need to kill in order to be effective. Look at how cops use them. The purpose is to stop an assault. The most effective way to do that is to deliver a bullet to center mass. Unfortunately that also tends to kill someone. Pure side effect as far as I'm concerned. I will never use a gun with the intent of killing someone.* I may have to use it to stop an attack one day. And that may kill them. But there is a significant difference there. * - disclaimer: if the US is invaded or something equally improbable and unforeseen happens, that sentence no long applies witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*