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Body Postion. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Thanks for the spelling correction But umm the market wasn't at 14k in July it was October of last year. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

I am always amazed how the smarter someone thinks they are the less intelligent they really are.. So tell me sir what where you saying at this time last year when the Dow was at 14k? MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Billy your smart, I know this but what happened? How can someone so smart get things so wrong? Then again there are millions just like you and the really scary thing is there are enough of you that a President and Vice President can commit treason and not get hung. Heck he can even disgrace the Oval Office commit Perjury and not get impeached. How is this Billy? MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

and if Clinton and done his FUCKING Job Bush wouldn't have had any and the Towers would still be standing.. Clinton ande Gore still need to be hung for Treason.. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

ROFLMAO Andy! There is no way you could have known I was called caveman in my 20's during my bangin' and slangin' days. I guess I havent' out grown it yet huh? Seriously though if your kid ended up in a freezer you wouldn't want to smoke the bitch? MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

This is Speakers corner fuck the Political Correct responses. Political Correctness is destroying our society. I can honestly tell you If those kids where related to me I wouldn't care how they died but I sure as hell would want person responsible snuffed out immediatly and in this case it is pretty fucking cut and dried who is responsible. End this bitch, a trial only puts money in the lawyers, judges,prison systems pocket and takes out out of yours and mine. Thats how I feel :) MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Superwoman your asking people who take personal responsibillty to heart. If you kill yourself no problem and even less of a problem if your doing it in another country, it is when you kill other people that folks get upset. It is nice you are concerned for your fellow skydivers though...

Believe it or not I actually enjoy reading your post and find you intelligent but a Lawyer calling anyone bloodthirsty is just...hilarious. And it's great you stand by your post(s) as do I. Only people a trial in these types of instances will serve is the Lawyers,judges and prison systems that rely on tax dollars. When there is no doubt to the guilt of such heinous crimes just walk em out back and drop em. (now your going to come back with the constitution and stuff and slippery slopes etc etc but fuck that this is speakers corner so I can say how I really feel ) MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Your a Lawyer Right? And YOUR calling us ? ROFLMAO. I would say thats like the pot calling the kettle black but I have more respect for pots then to lump them in with Lawyers. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

I had a Great time and my son got to Log a Otter Jump. He now has a Caravan,182 and a King Air and he is only 2 I hope next year we can actually make an attempt at the state record. Good times Clint THANKS! MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

I am still amazed the cop that opened Dahmers Fridge and saw the head didn't just turn and blast that fucker. I KNOW they would have got away with saying he made a move on them. hmmm I wouldn't be a very good cop would I MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

make it so the thief doesn't need to do any damage to get to the tank, and only fill up to a half-tank or less to minimize the damage to your wallet when they do stop by. I know, I know, easier said than done. Elvisio "been there" Rodriguez Agree. Locks are for keeping honest people honest. They are no deterent for theives of this level. It will more likely piss them off. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

DItto. Don't spend millions on trials and incarceration when a .22 cent bullet will take care of it. Just walk her out back and drop her. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Looking forward to it. Hopefully we can put up a state record this year. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Congrats "dad" :) MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Thanks Drew. Thats a cool site. Great information. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

I'm not concerned as I am not gonna off myself but it is in there. As for Jumping yes I am covered no exclusion but I discloed my USPA# License Number of Jumps, Number of Jumps in the last 30 days, 6 months and year. They did ask me if I participated in Baton Passing which I said no casue I have never passed a Baton in freefall. Seemed like a really dated question. And as was stated my insurance ain't cheap but it isn't all becuase i'm a skydiver. It is because I am old, former smoker and junkie with a history of cancer in my family. Seriously though if you want a good qoute call Zander. Or if you just want to know if you have any problems call them. They come out take your blood and urine and test the hell out of it. If you have ANY problem you know and it won't cost you a DIME. I am actually thinking I am going to get a new qoute every 3 years just to make sure things are still working properly and I won't have to go to a Dr's office and wait hours. they come right to my Store and take care of it in my office on MY time frame. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

I went with Zander Ins. My Stats: 42 Male Divorced once/re-Married 2 kids Just quit smoking in Jan, Drug Addict 6 years clean Skydiver 700+ Jumps None of the men on my fathers side have lived past 60. All have died of cancer by age 59 What I got: 20 Fixed Term Life 500k with the abillty to cash it out if I was Terminal and given 12months or less to live and even pays out for suicide as long as I off myself after 2 years of paying (Not that I am going to but it is written in there) Cost 2567 per year. Sounds like alot doesn't it? Well I look at it like they are gambling 500k for a 50k return. thats a HUGE gamble on someone with my history. I do have one advatange so to speak. Our company is paying the cost as it is considered Key Man Insurance. My wife who is also a Jumper and has High Blood Pressure and type 2 diabetes(sp) got the same policy for half of cost of mine. We had someone come in the our employee leasing company we use for our buisness and the cost where astronomical. I am so glad someone on here recommended Zander. So if you are looking for Life insurance go to zanderins.com and see what they can do for you. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Sorta :) The fact that it was illegal COULD have prevented the fatallity if the law was not broken and he was not allowed on the aircraft. If he wasn't allowed on the aircraft he wouldn't have died. This doesn't play to whether or not base gear is safe only that the FAA has deemed it illegal and if the law was always followed we would never see and incident like this. Now is that narrow minded? No and here is why. The Law is the law. Now if there was no law say in Canada and I was saying well the US has a Law so everyone else should follow it then I would be narrow minded. If the FAA got rid of the law today and someone wanted to use base gear from 2200' and opened at 2k (BSR's are still in play) Then go for it. If there are no BSR's in play and you want to exit at 500' I would still think it wasn't the wisest decision but wouldn't have an issue with it since no laws or bsr would be broken and there for no effect on me if you bounce :) Long story short I have no issue with Base or Base Gear or base jumpers. If I had started earlier in life i'd be huckin' myself off every everything high enough to get a canopy out. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

geez this is an exercise in futillty. Resulted and CAUSED are not the same thing. At no time did I say the jump CAUSED a fatallity. AS to being related umm yes they are the chain of events where never broken so they are 1 event. Illegal jump resulting in a fatallity. Definition of Resulting "To end in a particular way" Caused "a person or thing that acts, happens, or exists in such a way that some specific thing happens as a result; the producer of an effect: You have been the cause of much anxiety. What was the cause of the accident? " Just excatly what are you arguing about? I still don't get it. You say I'm being narrow minded but the law is the law and I have not deviated from that so where are I being narrow minded? MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

The problem with your arguement is we ARE talking about the USofA. This is not like the debate about packjobs. This is about making an illegal jump in the USofA which reulsted in a fatallity. PERIOD. This is BLACK and WHITE o there can be NO room for assumptions. Now if you want to talk about your OTHER issues thats fine start a thread and i'll give my opinion on that but concerning this it isn't my opnion it is the Federal Gooverments opinion. :) MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

This is what you said :) I was answering your question and regardless what Billy thinks I wasn't making a personal attack I don't know you so I can only make my determination based on what you stated for the record. So what is it that you stated? Well you stated that your most recent jumps where illegal (lets just call them jumps) from aircraft they are not "my stance on proper sklydiving" they are the Federal Goverments STANCE in other words the LAW. Now the intelligence of anyone breaking the laws is supsect but even more so when the consequences are so high. Now I am basing this purly on what you said and what the FAR says. Remember YOU asked me and frankly no one is disagreing with me. I am not the FAA I didn't write the law so you can't disagree with me :) MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

Billy read what he wrote. He asked me if that made him a Imbecile I was just answering not making a personal attack

ANDY. This isn't even about the Pilot. It is about BASE Jumping form an AIRCRAFT. It is ILLEGAL. Your still trying to put this off on others. This is not about anything other then all of those involved conspiring to break the law, which you(those invovled) did and the end result was someone DIED. Do you know what happens when you conspire to commit a criminal act resulting in a death? So how do you avoid that? That was how this all got started. I stated that to avoid a repeat of this is to hold eveyone involved accountable so next time SOMEONE will step up and say NO. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.