timmyfitz

Sounds like you jump at a really good DZ.

I'm not sure how this argument helps your case. No other jumper around at 30 jumps to tell you it was a bad idea? Or did someone tell you and you just ignored them until jump 110? Never read the SIM for 110 jumps?

So...you support the vigilante mentality. Nice. As for you bozo vegetarians who whine about killing animals: Why are you not jumping up and down screaming meemies about the ultimate animal killing...capital punishment? You really are trying to equate killing animals for food to capital punishment? NOT even close to comparable. So...in YOUR view, it's OK to whack humans but not animals, eh? >>>>>Never said any such thing. Further more I never stated that I was a vegetarian OR whether I was for capital punishment. Thanks for putting words into my mouth and ASSuming incorrectly on both counts. If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse....in MY world. >>>>>And once again I'll state, correctly I might add, that comparing killing an animal for food and capital punishment are in no way related other than life ends.

That's illegal in Texas, if there is someone with in ear shot whom may be offended. Then that portion of the Texas statute, and/or manner of enforcing it, is unconstitutional. It has stood up in court previously. You have access, check Lexus-Nexus and look at the case law. The reason why is due to the language of the statute in regards to a breach of the peace. Now, what you may disagree as to what constitutes a breach of the peace, but there is a bit of case law backing the statute up. That doesn't mean that tomorrow a new case will get kicked all the way up through the court system that then disallows the statute as written, though. Here's the statute so you can see the language and make your own choice. ***Sec. 42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly: (1) uses abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace; Who gets to decide what is indecent, profane or vulgar? That right there should be a clue how screwed up this law is. Gotta love Texas. The most immoral moral state around.

this morning, one of the news/feature shows intro'd a clip by calling some guy a 'hero' - he gave someone the Heimlich manuver. Last week, some kid was called a "hero" on a news station for dialing 911. You frequently here people being called 'hero' because they are a parent or a teacher or just go to work regularly - it's utter bullshit the term "hero" has ZERO meaning today You are my hero!

So...you support the vigilante mentality. Nice. As for you bozo vegetarians who whine about killing animals: Why are you not jumping up and down screaming meemies about the ultimate animal killing...capital punishment? You really are trying to equate killing animals for food to capital punishment? NOT even close to comparable.

You say this based on what? >>>Based on the fact that it is true. Unless you suggest someone should freak out, make knee jerk conclusions and act inappropriately. What would you prefer? That anyone with a negative comment hold their tounge? >>>There is a difference between constructive criticism and negativity. >>>For example:

Cute Sangi, very cute. Yep, that was cute.......and true!

You don't actually know much about BASE do you? Couldn't just answer the question without taking a jab, could you.

The problem with that is that consumers have very little knowledge of this industry, and how things work. Using the terms 'member' and 'non-member' DZs makes it sound like this is an organization, ala USPA, and not a for-profit business. It gives the impression that 'non-members' are lacking in something besides their willingness to part with half of their profits. While not of the same caliber and scale of the deception carried out by Skyride, it does leave the door open for consumers to believe that the non-members DZ are 'something less'. Priceline, Orbits, and Travelocity customers are well aware that Holiday Inn and Hilton are individual businesses, and that even if DoubleTree and Motel 6 don't appear on those sites, they are credible businesses who simply chose not to do business with those booking services. I would almost venture to say that the inclusion of 'non-member' DZs is a backhanded way of downplaying their status to the consumer, creating an artificial bias where none would have previously existed. So while there may be a DZ an hour away, they are not a member of 'Pro' skydiving.com, and in turn must be less-than 'pro'fessional. There simply is no room for a booking service in this industry. Travel is a different animal, catering to national businesses and national customers, but DZs are local businesses seeking only local customers. With or without the booking service, the DZ and their customers would come together, only competing with other local DZ, and as such the size of the market would dictate the size of the marketing effort required to deal with such competition, I've said it before, but Proskydiving could make a mint offering secure online payment and reservation solutions to DZ. If they were absent from the equation until a DZs customer hit the 'Buy now' button on the DZ website, at which point Proskyidving took over and handled the administration of the sale, that would a legit business, and one that virtually everyu DZ would take advanage of because it does not come between them and their customers. I outlined earlier in this thread how such a business could be run on a flat monthly fee, and easily generate upwards of $75,000 a year. That's $75k a year for operating a website, all the while leaving ample time to run CSC and make whatever profits are to be had there. That would be a legitimate business, and that would be an asset to the industry. Instead, greed has once again been the victor. Doug has set his sights on the high six-figure range far what he wants to extract from this industry per annum, and nothing is going to stop him. Not that fact that all of the money is no longer going to the DZOs who actually provide the service, and rightfully earn it. Not the fact that with all of that revenue going into his pocket, it's not available for upgrades to tandem and student gear, upgrades to aircraft, or upgrades to the amount of food in the cupboards of some DZO's homes. None of that matters to Doug becasue he's a greedy parasite, looking to drain this industry of money it can't afford to lose. Some people work their whole lives to make $75k per year, and even though he's got a chance to make that by doing very little work and not interfering with his existing business, he's going to take a pass, and shoot for the big time. The only difference between Proskydiving and Skyride, is that Doug had the benefit of seeing Skyride's mistakes from the outset. Skyride set the bar for how low you could go, and Doug had the advantage of being able to come in just above that position, and claim to be the 'good guy', and while in some areas he may be a 'better guy' than Skyride, at the end of the day all he did was just barely clear a very, very low hurdle. Are you still jumping at your home DZ which is a Proskydiving DZ? If Skyride and Proskydiving are basically the same thing(not my belief) and many people say that they would not jump at a DZ that accepts Skyride, how is it justified to jump at a Proskydiving DZ? Any comment Dave?

I understand that the best solution to a problem is the least complex while still getting the job done.

Yep, like I said in my previous post.

You don't have to "read any or all of it" either. You are going to need a thicker skin if you hang around. (It would also be great if you got all your "facts" correct in your post.)

You would only be surprised because it didn't fit with your preconceived beliefs.

Everyone knew what you meant. Well, almost everyone. You'll have to quit making your post so cryptic so that some of the slower people can understand.

Wing loading is only one factor. Wing loading only is not the best way to determine if a canopy is the best for you. There are several other factors concerning a canopy that determine if it "doesn't pose too much of a threat". How about we put any 95 pound girl on a Velocity 111?

If by "abuse" you mean that you do everything allowable by the tax code(tax laws) to reduce your taxes, then yes, they are scumbags. The people on the left that do the same thing must not be scumbags though. Your hypocrisy is showing.

You don't use the rules of the tax code to reduce or eliminate your taxes? I'll bet when your tax returns are being filled out, you are looking for every thing you can deduct. Speaking of hypocrisy.

I'm sorry. You may have misunderstood me. That's nothing new for Lucky. It is his MO.

What is common sence is that if there is a high percentage of nergroid people in the blue collar positions, there is probably a high percentage of negroids in the local community, if that is the case, they would fill the intellecual spectrum and therefore find thier way into management. For you, common sense isn't so common. Being a majority in a community or a workplace does not magically give someone the skills to work in management. Just as a manager may not be able to do the job of a blue collar worker because he does not have that skill. With proper education and training then either can do the job of the other. But it doesn't just happen by magic or commonsense.

Excellent. You've just summed up the reason most laws restricting firearms are useless at preventing crime. Same applies to laws against bank robbery (Bank robbers ignore them), rape (rapists ignore them), kidnapping (kidnappers ignore them), murder (murderers ignore them), fraud (con-men ignore them) and the list can go on and on. So you are really arguing for no laws at all. Wow. You once again prove your ignorance or you are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Laws are not created as a deterrent. They are created so that law enforcement and the courts can deal with criminals after the fact. If laws were a deterrent to all people, we would not have any crime. Luckily we have laws that are used to deal with the people that choose not to follow the laws. Edit to ad: There are people that believe that by passing a law it will prevent people from breaking that law. They are sadly mistaken and living in a fantasy world. Name one law on the books no one has ever broken? You are seriously missing the point, as usual. Nope. Not at all. Just because you say something doesn't make it true. In many cases just the opposite.

Still in school, huh? In school or not, that statement is correct. Unfortunately some engineers like to make things more complex than they need to be, like Rube Goldberg. Think about reefing systems that were on canopies to slow the opening compared to the slider.

The problem with that is that consumers have very little knowledge of this industry, and how things work. Using the terms 'member' and 'non-member' DZs makes it sound like this is an organization, ala USPA, and not a for-profit business. It gives the impression that 'non-members' are lacking in something besides their willingness to part with half of their profits. While not of the same caliber and scale of the deception carried out by Skyride, it does leave the door open for consumers to believe that the non-members DZ are 'something less'. Priceline, Orbits, and Travelocity customers are well aware that Holiday Inn and Hilton are individual businesses, and that even if DoubleTree and Motel 6 don't appear on those sites, they are credible businesses who simply chose not to do business with those booking services. I would almost venture to say that the inclusion of 'non-member' DZs is a backhanded way of downplaying their status to the consumer, creating an artificial bias where none would have previously existed. So while there may be a DZ an hour away, they are not a member of 'Pro' skydiving.com, and in turn must be less-than 'pro'fessional. There simply is no room for a booking service in this industry. Travel is a different animal, catering to national businesses and national customers, but DZs are local businesses seeking only local customers. With or without the booking service, the DZ and their customers would come together, only competing with other local DZ, and as such the size of the market would dictate the size of the marketing effort required to deal with such competition, I've said it before, but Proskydiving could make a mint offering secure online payment and reservation solutions to DZ. If they were absent from the equation until a DZs customer hit the 'Buy now' button on the DZ website, at which point Proskyidving took over and handled the administration of the sale, that would a legit business, and one that virtually everyu DZ would take advanage of because it does not come between them and their customers. I outlined earlier in this thread how such a business could be run on a flat monthly fee, and easily generate upwards of $75,000 a year. That's $75k a year for operating a website, all the while leaving ample time to run CSC and make whatever profits are to be had there. That would be a legitimate business, and that would be an asset to the industry. Instead, greed has once again been the victor. Doug has set his sights on the high six-figure range far what he wants to extract from this industry per annum, and nothing is going to stop him. Not that fact that all of the money is no longer going to the DZOs who actually provide the service, and rightfully earn it. Not the fact that with all of that revenue going into his pocket, it's not available for upgrades to tandem and student gear, upgrades to aircraft, or upgrades to the amount of food in the cupboards of some DZO's homes. None of that matters to Doug becasue he's a greedy parasite, looking to drain this industry of money it can't afford to lose. Some people work their whole lives to make $75k per year, and even though he's got a chance to make that by doing very little work and not interfering with his existing business, he's going to take a pass, and shoot for the big time. The only difference between Proskydiving and Skyride, is that Doug had the benefit of seeing Skyride's mistakes from the outset. Skyride set the bar for how low you could go, and Doug had the advantage of being able to come in just above that position, and claim to be the 'good guy', and while in some areas he may be a 'better guy' than Skyride, at the end of the day all he did was just barely clear a very, very low hurdle. Are you still jumping at your home DZ which is a Proskydiving DZ? If Skyride and Proskydiving are basically the same thing(not my belief) and many people say that they would not jump at a DZ that accepts Skyride, how is it justified to jump at a Proskydiving DZ?

Penal laws have both purposes. Not sure I follow? But I added this to my post and you probably didn't see it.

Excellent. You've just summed up the reason most laws restricting firearms are useless at preventing crime. Same applies to laws against bank robbery (Bank robbers ignore them), rape (rapists ignore them), kidnapping (kidnappers ignore them), murder (murderers ignore them), fraud (con-men ignore them) and the list can go on and on. So you are really arguing for no laws at all. Wow. You once again prove your ignorance or you are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Laws are not created as a deterrent. They are created so that law enforcement and the courts can deal with criminals after the fact. If laws were a deterrent to all people, we would not have any crime. Luckily we have laws that are used to deal with the people that choose not to follow the laws. Edit to ad: There are people that believe that by passing a law it will prevent people from breaking that law. They are sadly mistaken and living in a fantasy world. Name one law on the books no one has ever broken?