selbbub78

It took me 2 years to convince my mom to maybe come see me jump, and she was all ready to come this year... ...That is until I injured myself skydiving in february. Now she wants nothing to do with it. She doesn't even want me to get back in the air when I will eventually be allowed to get in the sky. She hopes I'm going to make a change in my mind. Not going to happen, but there's no way she (or any other relative) will ever come to watch me jump. blue skies, "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

thanks for the welcome back. I do think that wingloading can be an issue for newbies. I do see an issue about that, but from what I see i never noticed it being an issue with CRW. Maybe i'm wrong, Well there's a good chance i'm wrong, i only have about 100 crw jumps, so i have only seen so much. I'm just trying to leave this topic to wing loading. From what i've read, i've read a bunch of BS about what actually happened in that jump, that NEVER happened. I don't care, let people think what they want, but what it comes down to, for some reason I did a full toggle turn at 50 feet. If i did that under any canopy, the same thing would have happened. In my particular accident I don't see how the wingloading could play a part in it. I wish i knew why i decided to do a toggle turn at 50 feet i have no idea. blue skies, bubbles p.s. anyone else that feels like bringing up that we had to walk an hour through a swamp on a jump before, doesn't understand how much fun we actually had running around. It was a lot of fun. Just leave it go, this is about wingloading, not where to land, considering i was on the far other side of the DZ when i did the turn that I should never have done.

You know the ironic thing about this entire wingloading thing with scott miller, is that he told me that i could probably find some people at my DZ to jump with if i was really interested in trying it. At the time, i thought "hmmm, okay sure why not". Well my first CRW jumps were on my Sabre 190 (just some stacks). My sabre 190 i was wingloading at like a .88. Something ridiculous like that. Eventually I went to a 160 Tri-Hybrid which i was at a 1:1. The guys i jumped with were on the lightnings, and i might have had to front riser a little bit, but No problems, and no issues. At no time did anyone try to tell me i should downsize before I was ready. Heck, every once in a while i still use my tri-hybrid for CRW. It's fun! I can't speak for other DZs, but I know at my DZ, no one who does CRW up there, tried to get me onto a smaller canopy then I was ready for at any time. As for the comment about a Wingloading of a 1:1 making a difference...... Let's see, I did a 180 degree hard toggle turn at approximatly 50 feet. I don't care what canopy you're under, but no matter what the wingloading is, that's going have the same effect. Having my canopy hit the ground first, has nothing to do with the size of the canopy. It deals with pilot error. Unfortunatly, I screwed up. blue skies, "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

Well, just to clarify, since I really don't know what everyone on this list knows. I did a 180 degree toggle turn at approximly 50 feet. Why I did this, i'm still not sure. Just to make sure everyone realizes also, there's no way i would be flying a 113, or a VX46. Why??? Because i'm not ready for that. I think that's what Mike's original post is about. Just wingloading in general. It is apparent that wingloading can be an issue. It just wasn't in my situation. At least that's what I think. I'm newer on a 126 (approximatly 30 jumps on it), but I was jumping bigger canopies until I was ready for that canopies. No one made me feel like I had to downsize just to fit in with the 1.3 to 1.4 wingloading. The guys I was doing CRW with worked with the canopies that I was jumping, and worked with my experience level all through the entire thing. Just my 2 cents. blue skies, "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

Although I think it is admirable that this jumper is accepting culpability for him/(her?)self, I do still find myself somewhat disagreeing, and now asking again of you Mike, for further opinion on this statement. Hey, I'm going to speak up here, as it I who was/is the injured jumper (yes i have internet access again). Well first of all, although Mike is a good friend, he wasn't there, in fact no one really saw the whole accident that occured. I did a low turn. Why, i did a full turn low to the ground, i can't tell you right now, my mind is slowly letting me remember more and more of what happened. I know better than to turn low to the ground. It didn't have anything to do with being nervous or scared, or anything else, i just did it. It doesn't make sense. I had about 6 great landings/jumps on the 126 which i was flying without a problem. I'm just lucky that i survived and can learn from this situation. I hope others learn too. Just my 2 cents. blue skies, "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

good point. io shoudl try to do that

okay bubbles here, hi to those that know me.!@!! It's times like these that I wish i actually took the time to get on the drunk calling list thing. I'm here visiting the beautifuls tate or FLorida, TRASHED without a se\cond though. Just saying hi to all you people. Hope you all get to jump this lovely weekend :) Hi to anyone i might meet/aklready met at lake wales. :) blue slkies "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

Very AWESOME!!! It was the same type of jump that got me interested in CRW! I did a 11K hop n pop, sunset load with another jumper. We crisscrossed our canopies back to the DZ, front risering back and forth. All of a sudden, i wanted to try CRW. It's all about playing with the canopies. It's great!!!! :) I absolutly love it! Welcome to the dark side

that's pretty cool "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

okay this game is awful... I'll play it more when i get home from work. "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

That's so sad. Why would people want to do that to poor defenseless creatures like that? Poor things "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

It hasn't had another scan in nearly 24hrs? You can drive from CA to College Station in 24hrs. Hell, they could have handed it to a hitchhiker and had it in TX by now! lol, patience there. It'll come soon enough

I concur "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM

lol, ya i wish. Nah, i get thursday through sunday off every other weekend, so it gives me plenty of chances to travel

Ya it can be cold up there. We still jump though. Saturday we only jumped from 7K which was about -3. Not too bad for NY I guess. It's all about the warm weather though. Florida is spoiling me.... can't wait to get back down there though

do it when you're ready. It is a lot of fun though. A simple stack won't be that bad. It's addictive though. I just want warm weather jumping again

that's great

She's adorable!!!!

and it's even cooler to do it

I concur! I gotta send that to everyone

well i hope you get your canopy. according to FedEX mine has been delievered to me and is waiting for me at my apartment

AWESOME! I'm going to be doing CRW, but look forward to meeting ya.

AWESOME!!! I have 2 days til i get BACK down to florida (won't be able to visit z-hills thouhg next time i'll get back there). I'll be at lake wales, leave thursday come back monday

although it's not a new canopy... 'my precious' is supposed to arrive back from the manufacturer's today too... I know what you mean

I think 2 rigs is important, although I only have 1 rig right now. I'm looking at a 2nd rig for CRW