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Can we keep the political B.S. out of this. I thought most people agreed that we were going to support our troops. and their families. This is real simple the troops need something they should get it ASAP. Rummy and GW are at the top of the "chain of command" they have worker bee's below them to see that things get done. So someone droped the ball in the armor issue. Lucky for our troops the town hall meeting with Rummy side steped the chain of command and a G.I. was able to talk to the Sec of defense in a public forum. G.I to Sec of Defence to CIC Chain of command express

Ah, the old booksmarts vs streetsmarts. I know which I would (and do) have. You can do all the college papers you want in your establishment of "higher" education. In the end you can't re-write math. Your way doesn't add up nor make sense. Nice try. Have anything else? I've posted tons of stuff that the DP proponents avoid. Tell me when you are willing to answer them. Hi ESB Affirmative or is it negative Anyway the folks your wAiting for a response from, based on previous threads will be to busy to respond to your questions. As you wereDon't confuse the issue with the facts Time to move on. Personnel attacks are forbidden so get used to some folks SOP. R.I.P.

Hi BCH Have you read about his background? Might have some excess baggage IMO has nothing to do with politic's, just couldn't pass the smell test. 41 R.I.P. R.I.P.

Hi ""It’s interesting, apparently Cary is very good at a lot of things including teaching people how to lie, act dumb, etc (I would like to read the “Skyride Mission Statement”, It could be extremely short something like “Get the fucking money, whatever it takes! The end justifies the means! Just get the FUCKING MONEY!”)."" I think that mission statement was stolen from another boiler room operation also. 250 mile drice each way on a hot summer kansas day watching the wheat fields passing by the car window for a SKYRIDE. R.I.P.

I could be wrong but messing with a airplane is federal stuff. No Barney Fife locals. FBI, federal prosecuter, federal jail, the real deal. Don't mess with a airplane or else BTW whoever did the bad deed didn't "get even" he just inconvenienced some folks (I Hope). R.I.P.

Affirmative Except when you was a kid you knew that after you got caught you were going to be punished by daddy as soon as he got home. With capital crimes punishment isn't that swift or sure. Plea bargin, turn gov't witness, good lawyer etc, asppeals process etc. A sentence of LWOP in my opinion is worse than death. But if we take DP off the table will a swift sentence of LWOP be more of a deterent. . A sure thing of a living death sould be enough of a deterent except for the people that are confused/evil. Nothing will be a deterent for them. So they get LWOP quickly. R.I.P.

News flash In response to a G.I. telling rummy he wasn't wearing any cloth's Everything possiable has been modidied and production will be increased to 500+ HUMMERS /MONTH Sec of army called CEO of manufactor to see what could be done to increase production. It appears there was a failure to communicate that would have been missed if the G.I./press hadn't asked the question about the hummers. Gotta love the "Chain of Command", offical channels etc As you were R.I.P.

Hmmm Wonder where we can find a Leg floor lamp Might be a market for it No inventory just a mold and a websight, made to order, stocking style, shoe type etc. Gotta go and check out ebay. R.i.P.

Suggest you google Gary Ridgeway AKA Green River Murderer. Due to the volume of victims (upper 40's) Cost to prosecute was to high would take to long etc the county had to accept a plea bargin. Life w/o parole. Ever, never no way. R.I.P.

And that is the point I am trying to make. I don't dispute that. What I do dispute is the administrations claim that they've done everything they can to give them as much protection as possible. Affirmative What do you expect Baghdad Rumsfeld to say yea we screwed up went off half cocked made major mistakes since day one and lost a bunch of son's, daughters, fathers , mother's, brother's and sister's because we screwed up to bad so sad. Country right or wrong take it or leave it. Charge Tuesday we met a Major from Ft Lewis at the grocery store (still wearing BDU's) told his about Rummies Town hall meeting. He said "Damn I wish I could have seen that". Told the guy "No problemo this one isn't going to go away watch CNN tonight." The Major had ust got nack from the sand pile and remarked he's like to hear what Rumsfeld had to say after rideing in a unarmored Hummer for 30 minutes in the sand. This discussion wasn't from my buddies in the pentagon and no I didn't get the majors name rank and serial number. Who knows maybe I'm makeing the whole thing up. As you were R.I.P.

Self mutilation is wacko. We've read about a dude cutting off their hand, or was it a arm The guy cutting off his thingee just took a short cut. Cutting off a a upper extremity with only a goofy brain for a pain killer so how sick a person can get. R.I.P.

Got facts? Cause if you are gonna claim that the appeals cost bunches...We would have the appeals anyway. Facts? The green river serial murderer was doing jhis thing for 20 years when they finally caught the dude thru DNA evidence he had killed between 45-50 women. The county siad no way where they going to make a plea bargain but then they started adding u the numbers of the cost of all the trials, 4-5 defence attorneys etc. The county (king county) Wa state accepted a guilty plea as long as the bad guy showed where he had dumped the bodies that hadn't been found. If a peron can kill 40+ people and get life due to the cost of prosecution (The county said they were going to have to raise property taxes for all the trials) then why souldn't al the other bad people get "life w/o parole". BTW the GReen river dude Mr Gary Ridgeway had a "issue" the first night in prison. He complained to a guard that his blankee had a hole in it. The guard fixed it by telling Ridgeway to stick his toe in it. Prision is not a nice place. Life in prision is a long time. R.I.P.

Best of luck to Z-hills/Lake Wales Frenchy

What about dad getting into the coach's/umps face at a little league game because little johnny got a bad call or didn't get to play. Or mom wanting to hire someone to knock off a cheerleader so mary lou could get on the squad. SOS R.I.P.

Scoped A couple of times one of the "benifit's" of haveing medical insurance The worst part of the procedure was the nasty tasteing junk they ask you to drink the night befor so the scope won't run into any .......stuff. Was knocked out all three times only had a problem once. The second time woke up in serious pain during the deep scope so I start screaming to let the Dr know I'm not happy and to stop hurting me. Dr tells me to stop screaming Told him I will as soon as he stoped hurting me My guess the Dr running the scope the second time was a rookie or a sadistThe wife said she could hear me screaming in the waiting room with the other patients that were going to be scoped next We always ask for a video never got one just a cheap ass polaroid. The odds are in your favor

Hi Pedophilla sp? is zero tolerence in a lot of country's. I think everyone knows what it is but defining it can be a problem depending on who gets to decide where to draw the line, and know what a persons motives are. Rather than have to defend ourselves in court because someone thinks that a innocent picture of a little child is obscene, sick etc. It's just safer not to go there. No argueing, lawyers courts juries etc. Times have changed we went from ignoring the problem to going overboard in the opposite direction. To bad so sad R.I.P.

Is this like when a cop shoots someone? Do they have to make sure it wasn't excessive force? Is there psychological help available to the dog? Hope the dog doesn't catch any nasty disease's from biting the bad guy R.I.P. Using a dog is "less than lethal" force. Kinda like a beanbag round. Newly minted police dogs spend a lot of time chasing people around who are wearing these thick canvas practice bite/takedown suits. The first time a dog gets a "soft tissue" bad-guy bite is an anxious time. The dog usually gets a little freaked about the change in taste and has to be encouraged to re-bite the offender (only if the offender is still resisting) until they get good at biting bad-guy soft tissue with gusto. The dog doesn't need counseling, just livasnaps

But why? The US did not create Israel, the UN did, and the UK had more to do with its creation than the US did. J Follow the money and weapons We're trying to stop the flow of funds to OBL and others like him because their not nice people and want to hurts us. The U.S was/is the major source of funding to Isreal for their weapons and economy. Some people in the middle east think the Isreals aren't nice people and want to hurt them. So by association we support isreal with no strings attached and turn a blind eye to their heavy handed polices with their neighbors. There wa a picture of a tee shirt on another tread that showed north america split between Canada and Isrealand Same thing happened in Iran we supported the Shaw sp? of Iran with weapons and foreign aid beause he was a anti commie. However he delt with his citzens in a heavy handed manner. After We got kicked out of Iran we help Iraq with their war against Iran. Our enemies enemy is our friend theory of foreign aid. R.I.P.

I think credit cards are a great tool as long as you (have the force with you) know how to use them like any tool. We use ours like a debit card, IOW don't use it unless you can afford to pay off the balance every month. One CC company offers 1 frequent flyer mile/$1 charged. Another CC sponsered by GM offers $05/$1 charged that goes to the purchase of a new GM product. R.I.P.

couldn't have said it better myself, thanx bro!!! Negative Rumsfeld asked for questions from the troops at a Town meeting forum and he got exactly what he asked for. There was another question about when the stop loss program was going to end. As you were Carry on.

OK, so maybe I shouldn't have corrected it. It was funny. Ya'll know I can't type because I learned from JTVAL and WINGIE If the spell decker on you computer says its spelled correctly than it is. R.I.P.

So you must share an unexpected (for you) kinship with him then. Blues, Ian Affirmative 41

I agree that the army deserter needs to be punished for violating the terms of his contract. He signed his name on the line so he need to do the time. What was he thinking when he joined the 82 airborne div I think their one of the first to go in any conflict. Since I'm in a different age group I don't have any first hand knowledge of how many of my friends would be eager to enlist to help out their country during this time of conflict. Any of you younger folks getting ready to enlist

Sorry but I don't think we're in Iraq because of Oil. IMO it has more to do with with approx 50 years of our one sided foreign policy in the middle east. Now we're dealing with 2-3 generation's of hate. I'm guessing after the election, and the iraqi's take full contol there will be a civil war and Iraq will end up with three seperate parts, based on religious, ethnic groups. 41 R.I.P.

Of course they have. Please tell me what Iraq did to us that was on par with Pearl Harbor. Blues, Dave Negative You don't have a "need to know" If I told you i would have to kill you. Don't try and confuse the issue with the facts. Baghdad Bob and his clone knows the real deal 41 R.I.P.