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women! women! women! DAMN! I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

the stunt person in Tomb Raider II deploys left-handed. My guess is because it was Angelina Jolie's stunt double, and Angelina is leftie I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

Unfortunately I am bored at work. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

True, a liscense does not limit the type of vehicle you can buy or fly. I am not saying that USPA should instigate that type of limitations. However, as I said in my first post, "if the BSR for wing-loading is passed" then we will need to find some way to provide other DZ's and possibly (God-forbid) incident investigators that information. If someone fraps under a canopy that is too highly wing-loaded than the BSR would allow, we would at least have our first answer to wing-loading as well as experience and abilities (considering the BSR would require a canopy course to prove piloting ability). Let me be clear about one thing. I am not supporting or opposing the BSR possibility. I would (and voted) to wait and see what it entails. I am providing a thread to discuss possible aftermaths and policy enforcements. Edited because I failed English...all 12 years. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

ROFLMFAO!! I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

But our sport is already regulated, but we choose not to see it. USPA is our governing body, they also are the ones that issue the lisence. USPA isn't necessarily governed by FAA, but FAA does have jurisdiction if an incident occurs; so it leads to believe that FAA regulates our sport too. If we were truly self-governed and self-policed, we would answer to noone but other skydivers. Yes, investigators can get info by talking to the jumpers S/TA or talking to other jumpers from the home DZ. But if I am in Z-Hills for a weekend, have an accident, how long do you think it will take the investigators to get ahold of my home DZ in Iowa, not to mention the S/TA who isn't there every weekend? It seems to me that every incident thread that involves a jumper, the inevitable questions are "what was the canopy? wing loadig? container? reserve? aad? jumps? years in sport?" Not all waivers, current USPA cards, log books, reserve cards or other jumpers can tell you the unasked questions, "experience, history, evolution, eye-sight, medical history" etc. It would be a good debate. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

I have had a thought (strange, my brain doesn't hurt too much). That is, if USPA passes a BSR regarding wing-loading, and after rereading the thread from Holly's tragedy in Arizona, do you think that USPA should alter their liscensing process? Think about it. Our drivers liscence says what type of vehicle we are allowed to drive, what kind of medical issues we may have, and if we have any requirements for driving (such as glasses). Do you think USPA should model their liscenses after this? It would allow them and investigators access to fast info, such as if the jumper was cleared to wing loand a canopy 1.5:1, if the jumper required glasses, or if the jumper had a history of health related problems. It could give investigators a starting point, and allow for manifestors to know about the people jumping at their DZ, rather than a waiver and a reserve card. Any thoughts? I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

I want to go home florescent lights killing me blue skies call my name I don't know Haiku I just say what sounds alright Do you really care? I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

not from cali. but would vote for arnie if he were running here. as long as he stays away from his stupid quotes. we have all seen the movies, now show us reality. real people don't quote themselves. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

just so you know, the first movie was great for kids, but this one is not. It gets rather scary towards the end, so if you have kids 10 and under, they may not like it too well. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

Holy sh!t...I liked the movie. Then again, any movie Angelina Jolie wears skin tight clothing is a good time! It was more of an action/adventure than the first. I liked it a lot better than the first. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

havent seen the commercial, but saw the movie. BASE jump with wing suit off 84th floor. Cool view. Supposedly flies 2 miles out to sea and lands on freighter. In all three skydiving scenes, the landings are just TOO smooth, and they get rid of the gear WAY TOO FAST. Otherwise, they are kick ass sequences! I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

question to ask does anyone REALLY LIVE in Idaho? with all them Po-Tay-Toe-s? I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

um... yeah... MEN ARE GOOD AT APOLOGIZING! sorry, ya'll. Didn't mean to shout like that. Sorry, really. I truly am sorry. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

That jump is uncool It reminds me of HuggyBear And the 300way 1 died, other ICU On a brighter note, It is Friday afternoon here And I have my son He was unhappy It is his first day here At a new daycare. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

yeah? oh yeah? but we can.... um... what can we do? I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

Let's see. BASE is not altogether illegal. Look at West Virginia every year, hundreds of BASE jumpers jumping legally, with civil servant protection. The government of WV allows annual BASE from the bridge. Maybe the illegal BASE jumpers should try talking to the construction companies or the corporate owners of these tall buildings, towers, etc. and strike a deal for legal BASE. Thought? I do have a bone to pick, though. Dude, would you rather have no firefighters, police officers, paramedics, or mailmen? All these are paid through government funds that are supported by taxpayers dollars. But they also serve their purpose. I agree that the rescuers in Minnesota should not have taken 2 hours to come up with a plan for rescue, but then again, maybe they are not used to that kind of rescue. The BASE rig is proof only for conviction. After sentencing, or after the discipline is delt (community service, etc.), the rig is to be returned under legal precedence, unless the accused is sentenced to serve time in a guarded facility (jail, prison, etc), then the rig SHOULD be tagged and returned when the sentence is over. (Had a conversation with a lawyer about this, just to find out). If the gear is not returned after sentencing, it is the legal right of the accused to ask for it and/or to find out why it is not being returned. Find out under what further legal precedence it is being kept and under what conditions it can be returned. Sorry, my lawyer has not ever tried this kind of case, since Iowa isn't exactly the BASE capital of the world. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

Tim-I feel ya, man. I have been in the sport since 96. Did 100 jumps my first year, then next to none the second year. I go on and off, and right now I am VERY off. I sold my harness/container and reserve, but kept my jumpsuit, helmet, altimeter, and Stilletto. I plan on getting back into it, but in the last year, I met the woman with whom I will probably spend the rest of my life, I have become a father, I bought a kitten (strange, I haven't killed it yet - all you postwhores should know what I am sayin), and jumping just doesn't have as much pull as it used to. I would spend every weekend, starting Friday after work, at the DZ; now, I pick up my son less than 5 minutes from my DZ and haven't been there in over a month. Stick it out, soon you will have the passion again, your family will see it, and all will be right with the world again. In the mean time, I bought a Kawasaki Ninja. That has tied over my need to go fast straight down, now I go fast in a different direction. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

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PW, PW, PW... better than work, work, work... I may be just an enthusiast, but soon I will be... what is next, anyway? I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

OMG! This is just terrible! I am a father of a 1 year old, and I could not even imagine this! This has got to be one of the worst things I have ever read. My heart goes to the family of the victims. I am glad I am in America. It is at least somewhat safe here, regardless of who is in charge of the masses. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire

furry muppet? I think I need to see this... I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire