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OBL and Gadaffi are hardly alike.... We did kill his Son, which I think shut him up for a while. Look, over the past 3 yrs we have been scaring him, telling him he better confess to the PanAM thing and pay damages, he better stop supporting terrorism and SH, or we will invade Lybia. Well, he is beginning to listen, and wise up. It would be nice if Kim-Jung_il (SP?) Did the same. If he negotiated well, would be more willing to help NK out. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

The US was was not "founded of religious principal". It is, in part, based in the freedom to practice any religion of your choosing without fear of reprisal. I would say that the US was founded on the absence of religious principles. And you would be wrong!!!! The USA was founded on Judeo-christian philisophy. If you have any doubts on that read a history book. It explains why almost all currency in this county has the words "In GOD we trust" written on it. The US did not want to have a "Religious State" created, but did want religious practice of its people. You obviously don't know much about the founding fathers or the early days of this country do you? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

There are almost twice as many Christians in the world as there are Muslims. 2 to 1???? Not really http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Our new friend because he has come to the realization that terrorism is bad. In fact, he is coming clean and admitting to the US he was payed by SH to have nuclear test in his country!!!! This proves the US is forgiving. If SH had done the sam thing... an about face, an invasion of Iraq would not be needed. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Nope, it is not relevant, and it is off subject. I am bring up a discussion of a letter writen by MLK and his views on civil rights. When I start a thread on foriegn Policy, it may become relevant :-) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

What's your point Kallend??? Trying to change the subject again??? THAT'S RARE If you don't like the discussion at hand you can leave and try to highjack another thread...preferably not one of mine. Stick to the subject! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Opinion maybe, but as valid if not more valid than yours since I took the time to look at his view of the world and tried to get an understanding of his politics. Based on the principals he followed and he preached, he would definitely be opposed to abortion. That is an easy inference to make. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Woah, you really don't understand Darwin, do you? Actually I do, but I am not here to write book on neither natural selection nor evolution. My statement was that interspecies evolution has not been known to be possible.... hell even darwin would agree with me on that. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

As I was watching Scarborough Country last night a gentleman was on talking about where the Dems went wrong etc..... One thing he noted which was somewhat Ironic was how in the 60's the Democrats were the "Religious" one's fighting for civil rights, and now they are the ones condeming Middle America as being too religious and opposed to civil rights. This getleman also talked about Martin Luther King, and how religious he was, and what he thought about this country and religion. The fact is the USA has never been a Secular nation, and it was founded of religious principal. The Left wants to take that away and create a secular country. I, myself, am not very religious, but I think the teachings of structured morality and religion are great for this nation. Anyway, when MLK was arrested in Birminham on Good friday 1963, he wrote a famous letter from prison. In this letter he explains how only the Law of GOD is just and how human law in this country, if not in tune with God's law, is unjust!!! He quotes saints and says this is his reason for breaking laws for the greater good. On this logic, MLK would have opposed abortions and Gay marriage since they go against "God's law and the Natural Law." Here is a direct quote from MLK's prison letter. Let the Flames Begin!!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Dude... It's Madona.. She's a Fucking idiot!!! It was like Cheer at a rally a few years ago talking about foriegn and domestic policy. First off Cheer dropped out of school in 9th grade and is stupid. Secondly, she has lived her life in a bubble with no concept of what real people's lives are like. why do we support these morons? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

If they would just leagalize guns they wouldn't have this problem. Seriously... they are morons!!! Really. Banning non-kitchen knives..I don't get it. Then they will use kitchen knives as weapons..... then they will ban those and will have a country filled with plastic knives and sporks!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

See, we can put a frog in a controlled environment for long periods of time, and it may mutate or conform to its surroundings... But, say humans came from apes who came from dogs who came from dolphins is about as proovable as string theories 12 dimensions!!!! or was it 13? hmmm ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

WHAT, NO LIBERALS HAVE BLAMED BUSH FOR THIS YET????? WOW!!! I am actually surprised!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

The evolution of Humans is not a fact is it. Evolution does happen in a controlled sample we know that, but Evolution on an interspecies scale is a theory. Natural Selection it also a theory. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

YAWN Global warming this global warming that!!!!!!! I love how everyone on here is an expert on Global warming. Funny, 15 years ago everyone was an expert on Acid rain... Don't hear much about that Catch Phrase anymore. Actually, they don't really call it Global Warming anymore. You guys are all behind... the new catch phrase for those looking for a cause is "Climate Change" See.... Global warming was too specific. Now there is word GW leads to Global cooling.....owwww. Better not call it GW anymore better call it "Climate Change" GOT A NEWS FLASH: Climate change has been going on for 5 billion years. Oh, what caused the CO2 levels to be double what they are now, 15,000yrs ago? Too many power plants? GOD.... This gets boring. Come on Bil. Will you read what us Scientist actually say about the GC going on, instead of the few radicals out there. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Were you breast-fed as a baby? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Wait.... Where is the source for the DATA you posted? Oh.... I see, you made it up!!!! Nice!!!! Can't prove your point.... Make shit up. KERRY WAS an Alien!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Yup it is possible, but the wording is still bad and I don't see a source from Kallend!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

I never said everything he did was liberal :-) However, he is Liberal. I goodled his voting record. I have a copy on my home PC somewhere, I will have to get the sources later. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

That implies 51% who didn't finish high school voted for Kerry And Again, i would guess that not even 50% of people who didn't finish high School voted. Come on Proffesor.... You need to word these things better than that. You are getting sloppy. It is Friday, I guess I can cut you some slack. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

76% of all stats are made up on the spot.... we know. Where is that info from Kallend? BTW- 95% of people who haven't finished High School can't vote I think you need to reword it!!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

I don't know but Killer whales have been filmed catching seals and "playing with them". They flip them about 20-30 feet in the air and smack them with their tales anout 100 feet. Saw it on discovery. Typically they don't eat them after either. THey usually do it after they feed... For Shits and giggles. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Did they Skin them???? Was there a reason? Food, clothing, blubber? Anyone? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Think that is violent... Ever seen a Hawk swoop down and grab a squirrel only to begin ripping its gut out and start eating eat before it is dead? Nature is Violent.... we are part of the mix. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Here are some votes... Make up your own mind. If you don't think he is liberal, you too might be liberal. It is all an opinion really. # Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004) # Voted NO on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000) # Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999) # Voted NO on disallowing overseas military abortions. (May 1999) # Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003) # Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004) # Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002) # Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001) # Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000) # Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998) # Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997) # Voted NO on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996) # Voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995) # Shift from group preferences to economic empowerment of all. (Aug 2000) # Voted NO on limiting death penalty appeals. (Apr 1996) # Voted NO on limiting product liability punitive damage awards. (Mar 1996) More funding and stricter sentencing for hate crimes. (Apr 2001) # Voted YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001) # Voted YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001) # Voted YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001) # Voted NO on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000) # Voted NO on allowing more flexibility in federal school rules. (Mar 1999) # Voted NO on education savings accounts. (Jun 1998) # Voted NO on school vouchers in DC. (Sep 1997) # Voted NO on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996) # Voted NO on requiring schools to allow voluntary prayer. (Jul 1994) # Voted NO on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003) # Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003) # Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003) # Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. (Apr 2002) # Voted NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months. (Mar 2002) # Voted NO on preserving budget for ANWR oil drilling. (Apr 2000) # Voted YES on ending discussion of CAFE fuel efficiency standards. (Sep 1999) # Voted NO on defunding renewable and solar energy. (Jun 1999) # Voted NO on approving a nuclear waste repository. (Apr 1997) # Voted NO on do not require ethanol in gasoline. (Aug 1994) # Voted YES on reducing funds for road-building in National Forests. (Sep 1997) # Voted YES on continuing desert protection in California. (Oct 1994) # Voted YES on requiring EPA risk assessments. (May 1994) # Reduce liability for hazardous waste cleanup. (May 2001) # Fund studies of sustainable fisheries. (Oct 1996) # Fund studies of invasive species and algal blooms. (Mar 1998) Fully fund Head Start for all 3- and 4-year-olds. (Mar 2004) Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-family voting record. (Dec 2003) # Voted YES on killing a bill for trade sanctions if China sells weapons. (Sep 2000) # Voted NO on cap foreign aid at only $12.7 billion. (Oct 1999) # Voted YES on limiting the President's power to impose economic sanctions. (Jul 1998) # Voted NO on limiting NATO expansion to only Poland, Hungary & Czech. (Apr 1998) # Voted YES on $17.9 billion to IMF. (Mar 1998) # Voted NO on Strengthening of the trade embargo against Cuba. (Mar 1996) # Voted YES on ending Vietnam embargo. (Jan 1994) # Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence. (Aug 2000) # Multi-year commitment to Africa for food & medicine. (Apr 2001) # Monitor human rights in Uganada-Sudan crisis. (Aug 2004) # Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam. (Oct 2001) # Voted YES on removing common goods from national security export rules. (Sep 2001) # Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China. (Sep 2000) # Voted YES on expanding trade to the third world. (May 2000) # Voted YES on renewing 'fast track' presidential trade authority. (Nov 1997) # Voted YES on imposing trade sanctions on Japan for closed market. (May 1995) # Build a rule-based global trading system. (Aug 2000) # Voted NO on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002) # Voted YES on banning campaign donations from unions and corporations. (Apr 2001) # Voted YES on continuing funding for the National Endowment for the Arts. (Aug 1999) # Voted YES on favoring 1997 McCain-Feingold overhaul of campaign finance. (Oct 1997) # Voted YES on Approving the presidential line-item veto. (Mar 1996) # Voted NO on banning more types of Congressional gifts. (Jul 1995) # Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004) # Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999) # Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999) # Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999) # Voted NO on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998) # Voted YES on allowing importation of Rx drugs from Canada. (Jul 2002) # Voted YES on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001) # Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001) # Voted YES on including prescription drugs under Medicare. (Jun 2000) # Voted NO on limiting self-employment health deduction. (Jul 1999) # Voted YES on increasing tobacco restrictions. (Jun 1998) # Voted NO on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998) # Voted YES on Medicare means-testing. (Jun 1997) # Voted YES on medical savings acounts. (Apr 1996) # Voted YES on adopting the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. (Oct 1999) # Voted YES on allowing another round of military base closures. (May 1999) # Voted NO on cutting nuclear weapons below START levels. (May 1999) # Voted YES on deploying National Missile Defense ASAP. (Mar 1999) # Voted YES on military pay raise of 4.8%. (Feb 1999) # Voted NO on deploying missile defense as soon as possible. (Sep 1998) # Voted NO on prohibiting same-sex basic training. (Jun 1998) # Voted NO on favoring 36 vetoed military projects. (Oct 1997) # Voted YES on banning chemical weapons. (Apr 1997) # Voted NO on considering deploying NMD, and amending ABM Treaty. (Jun 1996) # Voted NO on 1996 Defense Appropriations. (Sep 1995) # Establish Maritime Security grants for ports and vessels. (Nov 2002) # Federalize aviation security. (Nov 2001) # Temporary workers ok, and earned amnesty ok. (Oct 2004) # A guest-worker program alone won't solve the problem. (Oct 2004) # Restore immigrant benefits lost in 1996 welfare reform. (Mar 2004) # Expedited citizenship for members of the Armed Forces. (Mar 2004) # Earned legalization for immigrants to keep families together. (Feb 2004) # Earned legalization for undocumented immigrants. (Jan 2004) # Amnesty to anyone here over 5 or 6 years. (Sep 2003) # Voted NO on allowing more foreign workers into the U.S. for farm work. (Jul 1998) # Voted NO on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998) # Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997) # Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001) # Voted NO on killing an increase in the minimum wage. (Nov 1999) # Voted NO on allowing workers to choose between overtime & comp-time. (May 1997) # Voted NO on replacing farm price supports. (Feb 1996) # Voted NO on Social Security Lockbox & limiting national debt. (Apr 1999) # Voted NO on allowing Roth IRAs for retirees. (May 1998) # Voted NO on allowing personal retirement accounts. (Apr 1998) # Voted NO on deducting Social Security payments on income taxes. (May 1996) # Voted NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years. (May 2003) # Voted NO on cutting taxes by $1.35 trillion over 11 years. (May 2001) # Voted YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates. (May 2001) # Voted YES on increasing tax deductions for college tuition. (May 2001) # Voted NO on eliminating the 'marriage penalty'. (Jul 2000) # Voted NO on across-the-board spending cut. (Oct 1999) # Voted NO on $792B tax cuts. (Jul 1999) # Voted NO on requiring super-majority for raising taxes. (Apr 1998) # Voted NO on FY99 tax cuts. (Apr 1998) # Rated 14% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes. (Dec 2003) # Voted NO on $86.5 billion for military operations in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Oct 2003) # Voted YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq. (Oct 2002) # Voted NO on allowing all necessary forces and other means in Kosovo. (May 1999) # Voted YES on authorizing air strikes in Kosovo. (Mar 1999) # Voted NO on ending the Bosnian arms embargo. (Jul 1995) # Condemns anti-Muslim bigotry in name of anti-terrorism. (Oct 2001) # Move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. (Nov 1995) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty