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Kinda what I was trying to say - but obviously you made a better job than me!! Note to self - go back to school for English communication lessons.............. have fun people! just have fun!!

yep and I did!!!! take it easy................

this is my point (i think) - if you met someone with 500 jumps only from the legal span would you think him more knowledgable than the 50 jumper from 30 objects???? who would you trust on a B or E??? the one who had done a few from them or the one who had jumped more (albeit from the span)?????? this is my point about jump numbers meaning shit?!?!? I know in the real world this aint the case and a guy with 500 is probably got experience with many things - but if all are from a span - why would you trust him more?????? just a thought provoking thought!! hehehehe be safe always!!

I may have worded this incorrectly - but when people hear he has 500 jumps compared to hearing 50 jumps where does your thought go to who would be more experienced? do we sub-consiously play the numbers game? I agree numbers are worthless and not worth a thought (yeah i know i have thought and made this post) - but do you think that we do make a judgement on numbers albeit non thoughtful??? I know from my experience that off my local I dont think about things as in detail as someone i take to it not jumping it week in week out - who is better prepared? Me who has done it alot but maybe has become "too" comfortable on my local or the guy who is racing through his mind everything you should be thinking about???? Now theres a thought?!?!?!??! Im not saying that I am complacent on my local but just trying to make a point............ surely if your that tapped in on each jump you make it keeps your senses tuned in more so than someone flicking the same thing all the time............ just trying to provoke thought........... thats all.......

from a Quote from TA What are peoples general view on experience? I think that jump numbers mean shit - I feel that number of objects (varying) has more to do with experience.......... I mean I would say that although that someone may have 500 jumps from a legal span and maybe their pulling out gainers and various "novalty" jumps - he maybe more experienced in the "dead air" environment but would not someone with 50 jumps from 30 different objects ranging from 200 to 3000 and B A S E - be more experienced as a BASE jumper - but as soon as you mention 500 jumps people react that "wow he must be real experienced" - and think the guy with 50 jumps would be seen as not so........... Most BASE jumpers I meet wont ask you your jump numbers until you have known them for a while and have become friends - most will ask about the type of objects you have jumped only .............. but is there still a "numbers" game happening in BASE??? Just interested in peoples thoughts about "numbers" thats all................. yep im at home and bored!!!

fuck knows!!! I went off on one!!! Think in the end - fuck em! - just do what you have to do to be happy............... (but not if it envloves farm yard animals! - thats cruel!!)

My Aunt stood with my 2 cousins in front of me and asked how I felt knowing that 2 young children will be attending my funeral............ this i felt was bang out of order. She did not talk to me about it for around about a year - but I showed her some video and she also read something about the reasons I did it and she suddenly realised that we were not gung ho cocaine sniffing point break wankers out not giving a shit about life ......... she saw the video and did not realise how "understanted we were" - we were not whooping and shouting she could see that we were scared.......... this kinda put her mind at rest and dispelled the "opinion" she had of people that do this......... if anything she compared it to skydiving videos where we are loud and messing around in the plane and thought it good I had become more sensible!!! funny how perceptions are to the unknown! I argree with Skin - the worst thing I did I was tell people what I do........... its best just kept to yourself! (but close family) I jump with someone who has not told their parents and I had him write a letter should he go in to explain to them everything - I have this letter and will only read it and give it to them should he frappe. I could envisage me getting a world of shit should that occur from them so if he did not want to tell them he should at least write them a letter. Saying this I also have a letter that should I go in explains things to family and friends and also what should happen to my kit, pocessions and what I want at my funeral........... there is a possiblity of death - but I want that to be as easy for my mother as possible............ funny thing is whilst all the grief was happening my mother ended up in hospital for with plates and pins and almost lost her foot - this from a horse riding accident that my aunt and my little cousins partake in - funny that they did not get freaked by the dangers associated with that pastime! Hypocrites! As for reasons - I kinda know why I do this - but I dont need to tell people the reasons - I get something from it that makes me happy internally - thats all that they need to know............... People are selfish if they want you to stop something that makes you happy........... maybe just as selfish as you doing it.............. maybe........... Have Fun Ivan........... just have fun!!

I would be more interested in who had the most objects..............

yeah dude she is looking forward to meeting you again!!! but as you say - i know she is worried......... i just hope with time it gets easier for her to accept............ just dont tell them the gnarly shit and they having nothing to think about!!!

yes I had trouble with family issues. A close member of my family would not talk to me and another close member was cold toward me and would not mention my new found love. I sat one down and explained why I was doing this - and the other I wrote a long description on the feelings and reasons I was doing this. Now my family except it (or so they show me) but have recently found out that their acceptance is just show - they are still really worried but wont show me this worry......... its fucking funny how people react to what you do...................... Im still trying to work it out!

515 and hookit! your on the money! thanks for responses! but still does not answer why some skydivers seem to give us negativity - 515 was the only response that makes sense in that sense! and for the record - I dont know any jumper that does this to show off - we all do this for ourselves - if I did this to show off then sneaky beaky jumps at night solo aint the best way to do this! I fail as a show off i guess!!!! be safe all................we are all parachutists!

we dont do this for ego - we leave that for the skydivers!!! so with that why you think the "open minded" skydivers give us shit???? I put it down to envy!!! to be honest I have found that skydivers are the most small minded people about BASE since starting this - so tell me i am wrong!!!! its so apparent that you post makes me fucking laugh!! later!

nope! nothing like!!!

no understanding! and i think also some envy..........

nail hit on the proverbial head!!!

yeah go on i dare ya!!! its well past its sell buy date and is going cheap!!! bet you would rather freefall 180 - ah shit you do!!!

i dont think its something just to "try out"

ok so its cool you say you respect etc - but anyone have a theory on why we would get shit.........??? thanks for your thoughts!! appreciate it!

i had two friends commit suicide - i live with the fact that they choose this way and most people aint lucky enough to choose!!! sorry for your loss................ but life is for the living...........

as i said MAYBE i was wrong.............

I have been speaking to a friend who is about to take a FJC and he is surprised at the reaction to his decision (a very well informed and 2 year researched thought) from skydivers. He works at a DZ and he is astounded at the "biting negativity" he has got from experienced and non experienced skydivers. This brought back memories of the shit i went through from both skydivers and my family (another story) and then I remember other jumpers went through the same deal when they started to persue low altitude parachute deployment science....... so i would like to know from you the skydiving community - why you think that at the start of our journey we get negative treatment from what we would consider "we are all parachutists in the end" - but people who had no problem with us as skydivers but then their attitudes seem to change when we decide to go for "a low profile"............ just curious as my friend is getting really fucked off with this "small minded" treatment he is getting off people............ why is that????????

i thought the cat bummer was flying one anyway? it was not his design as far as i know - but maybe i am wrong????? he still sounds like a cat with worms though!!!

Was it not your president that said "freedom should have some limits"???

only fucking just mate......... only just!!! .......... but you think it better than you write it!!

sorry my post reads that his lowest freefall was the 340ft E - it was not!!! 734 - this guy rocks and him and his wife fits in so well here!!.................. we are looking after him and showing him some shit that he aint used too - but looking at some of his video you guys were doing some fucking quality stuff!!!!! I hope to meet up and do some stuff with Marks local crew sometime! - we are not just jumping friends we are friends!!! know what i mean!!! but in the end he is still welsh and that is some freaky shit!!!! even for me!!! take it easy bro!!! - think i know ya already!!!