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he may have had 2000 jumps opening at 2000+ ft but opening at 200ft with a slammer slider off for the first few times may make your brain race a little.......

I also did my FJC a couple years ago at that span and saw 1 broken foot (VERY experienced jumper) and also a fractured spine on a guy who was jumping with me after I finished the FJC......... It maybe a span but its still a BASE jump with things to think about.

I would gauge this by the margin of error available to the participant. BASE has a much smaller margin for error than skydiving. The risks involved are clearly higher in BASE. Yes people die skydiving and yes it’s a dangerous sport. But in comparison the risks and margin for error obviously differ. Firstly look at the environment, in BASE you are freefalling at altitudes very close to the ground and or close to a solid object of rock, metal, glass, wires, etc etc - hesitations and miscalculations of time in small amounts can result in serious injury or death, a miscalculation of 1 second is nothing in skydiving, it could be life or death in BASE – Kit requirements differ for each jump, yes this is true in skydiving but not to the fine detail it is in BASE where opening time / distance may be crucial…. An extra 60ft opening in BASE could be deadly in skydiving this does not matter. People always retort with “what about swooping? The margin for error is small” – this is true, but in itself it a specialised area of skydiving that takes time to master and build up skills to practice safely. This is a more dangerous facet of skydiving - but there are also other more dangerous facets of BASE. This is a simplised view on a few of the many many differences as I see them – I can’t be arsed to write anymore! But for a skydiver to say skydiving is just as dangerous as BASE is ignorant. As Hookitt suggested – you wait until you are stood alone at night with your toes over the edge of a low solid object – then you come back and tell us that you think skydiving is just as risky.

and in addition: http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=7&topic_id=19988&mesg_id=19988&page= and for the record I did not name any sites - although i mistakenly named a jumper as I thought it was a Journo being named - I have since apologised to the jumper who has said he did not give a shit anyway - and in fact wrote that he did not want me to think he had anything to do with the article being deleted................ (see the aussie board)

Nice one dude in gaining your first double zero number! Congrats on the century! Looking back was cool that you got through the months off injured badly at 30+ jumps and went back and flicked on your first jump back the A that bent you!. Glad to be with you on your first E and B. Also glad I was not with you on your sub200 freefall love!! Nice one mate! I like to think I was a main part of some of your memory jumps! Keep it up! Keep it low! M

It is interesting to see most people unable to see the advantage of jumping slider down without the LRM. - But I just wanted to question this myself. Sorry if this seems obvious and very fucking stupid. The reason I posted this poll was to guage what people were doing and what their feelings about this were. I have received several calls from people thinking I was going to start jumping this way - this was not my intention. My intention was to get myself to question the LRM and its intention and then the intention of all related aspects. There is no getting away with the fact that people are jumping slider down without the LRM. Their choice seems to be something that I can understand. But is also something I am questioning. Some of my thoughts are: (and I am well aware that some of this maybe complete shit - but I would appreciate correction on my thoughts) The LRM was developed in a time when people were jumping skydiving equipment and they were jumping with the control lines in the slider grommets and keeper rings. MH (whilst in hospital) thought of a way to "cure" a line over which is even more possible jumping slider off or down then slider up. This was an inovation and moved slider down jumping along. Other problems were discovered - one was tail inversion - which to my belief is still questioned on whether is a cause of lineovers. This caused its own problems - the Tailgate was developed to prevent Tail Inversion (and not lineovers as many people are led to beleive) - but inadvertently also prevented lineovers. Since the Tailgate and prgression with packing lineovers slider down have become rare, both the tailgate being a prevention of tail inversion and lineovers and the LRM being a cure of lineovers - slider down / off jumping has become less of a gamble. With the Tailgate has the LRM become "not needed?" - how many people have used the LRM in anger to clear a lineover? Do you know anyone that has? With the advent of vented canopies and more knowledge on lower end freefalls / Low SL / Low PCA / Tards / McConkey etc then is a LRM truely something that people will be able to use opening so low? The vented canopy was there to make lower openings safer but i beleive that it just meant that people took them lower. The other aspect is the fact that brakes fire on opening and / or people drop toggles. Without a LRM this does not become a pain in the arse that it is - not that it should be a real pain, just an inconvienience. I dont really know what I am trying to answer in looking into this - but I would say that I am not about to jump without the LRM - but I am just questioning the whys and wherefores........ thats all......... The experienced of you may have seen this time and time again - but I like to question what and why I am doing something. Flame the new guy if you so wish - but I thought I would throw my thoughts out in the public to help me progress my anorak status further!............. Many thanks. Michael Edit: to add I am shite at writing down what I am thinking - so please be aware it may not come across as I want. Thats just me!

Nice! What I believe and live by is that life should all be about balance............. If you live totally consumed by one thing then you will miss out on many other things..........

I dont know if its because I have not skydived for a while but my thought was that the jumpers spotted and not the pilot!

………. In addition, if you vote for “I don’t use the line mod slider down / off” can you please also PM me. Thanks M

Nah mate - its the Slider down line mod - where the control line does not go through the keeper rings or slider.

http://www.crmojo.com/adobepdf/fjccanopy.pdf

Please answer multiple options to which relates. Im just curious after reading an article. Please add a reply or PM me if you have any particular thoughts. M PS) Yeah I know I am shite at putting together a poll that results would mean anything!

http://www.omniskore.com/freefall_drift2.html http://www.diverdriver.com/Spotting/Freefall_Drift/freefall_drift.htm

dude chill - leroy is obviously an excited virgin that just popped his cheery..... he just threw words together to try and thank people that made it possible to do his first jump - being probably the most intense thing he has done I am not surprised his choice of words maybe misinterperated - just let the guy have his moment - we were there once. He is probably unaware of the little things that his instructor did to make him ready...... just my thoughts all be cool now!

If I have been jumping the night before and I come into the office a little tired and sit down to work – I am detached of all around me and deep in thought about what I was doing the night before – I also laugh at the conversations of small worries and concerns of people in the office – “that’s not my cup, I want my cup” – as I relive the fear and elation from only a few hours before. Sometimes its so surreal…………… If I jumped every single night – I would walk out of work permanently and not be able to afford rigs and trips!!

Hey george! How ya doing dude! You got your toggles sorted yet? If not I have a nice wizard and dagger for sale if ya want it!! – drop me a line – I will do ya a good deal on it! Im with you George – I have never been a same day multi jump person. I don’t want to get the same as when I was skydiving in that you try and get as many jumps done in the day and then you forget how much fun you had on the first jump of the day, or second jump of the day. Cramming in numbers is of no interest to me, To me after I BASE I like to sit down with a nice cold beer and revel in the feelings that I have / had from that one jump. I think for me to pack and jump again so quickly I would loose that post jump feeling and reflection that I love so much – and to me that would be a shame. Drop me a line mate if your interested in the kit!!

Cow Shit!

welcome

or on the other hand you can get shit for trying to do the right thing (troll or non-troll) http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=7&topic_id=19897&mesg_id=19897&page=

or this (scroll down for pic) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2990455506&category=324 Now thats a bargin!!!! what the fuck is that all about!!!

If I was going anywhere aboard I would always pre-arrange locals / knowledge before I got there. If I knew locals that could help someone that did not make plans - It would depend on how well I knew that person to pass on help - I mean I would not want to be linked to some tossa with people I hooked them up with. If it was someone I did not really know I would explain to them in great detail why I did not help them. Its not hard to get contacts in any part of the world these days.......... just a little effort. BASE is not a lazy mans sport! just my "resting my ass" 2 beers worth!

On returning from my FJC I tried to hook up with people but in general no one really gave me an invite to join them. Instead I bought a sectional map and spent every weekend for 3 months driving around and looking at everything I could over 200ft. I found many sites, but my own thought about BASE at that time was that I did not know who maybe jumping them so I did not want to step on anyones toes so I did not jump them. After several months and speaking to a more experienced jumper, it was apparent that these were not being jumped day in day out by anyone specifically - so I went out and jumped them. I was confident enough to not have anyone more experienced than me on these jumps and knew that I was being a cautious as possible in doing them. Now 2 years on, if new jumpers are coming through I was trying to make their journey easier than mine by hooking them up with other jumpers and making introductions, but now I think that does not help people. The people I have seen recently now only jump 1 or 2 objects and dont spend bad weather (and good weather) days travelling miles and scoping new objects. The just wait for good weather and jump the objects they have been taken to. This I think does not encourage a good attitude toward objects and the work it takes to open them up. As far as I am concerned BASE should not be easy for people, it gets rid of the people not committed to doing some work for their objects. By the time I had 15 jumps I had jumped 8 UK objects all of which I found myself and put work into to jump them. I was never shown any of these objects by anyone. This gave me more of an appreciation of the work needed to keep objects jumpable. So here lies the problem, if you ignore the newbie jumpers then it may encourage them to go out and work for their objects and put off the "lazier" jumpers from jumping. If you help them out then they may become lazy and not go out to work and jump one or two objects and not build on the other skills of BASE in scoping objects. But if you dont help them then thay may blaze your objects anyway and without guidence not build on skills in the correct manner. Who the fuck knows! In the UK there are so many new jumpers coming through and I beleive that making it harder for them to get into jumping is the future here. Its not an easy sport and its more satisfying if you work hard to make your jumps rather than being a fucking tourist and being hand fed objects! Michael PS) Hey greeny - MarkA was trying to get hold of you - is it ok to pass on your number to him?

PeterK - you have a REAL point!!! nice one!

Hey Zennie - I have heard about this site - and to be honest it sounds fuckin PRIME! fuck man if someone burns it for ya I will pay to come over to the US and help tar and feather just on principle!!!!!!

you lazy shit! take it out of the stash bag soon after the wet kit gets put in it!! this stops it!! hehehehehe