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then don't feed the troll The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

ok - as far as i have experienced it customers want to have a good time -and that is what they get for sure. I try to provide a little bit more and give them opportunities to get involved a little deeper like wearing an alti, pulling, all the stearing and landing the canopy - if they want it - fine, if they don't - well thats ok too. sometimes they come along sometimes they don't. I guess it all boils down to having the choice

BWAHAHAHA! that just made my night The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

dudeists don't care if you are gay, het, bi or a-sexual. whatever floats your boat will be fine as long as it's immoral, illegal and fattening @liemberg: welcome aboard

sorry i pissed in your cornflakes - but usually its the good guys that get it wrong when i said the bad word i meant those who don't give a damn and not those who try to make a difference - ok? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

tonto The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

oh shut up The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

there is no news to that The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

my guess: this will be totally lost by the meathauler-crowd after all it's just passengers, neh? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

JAUTIB - just another useless thread in bonfire The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

now if you told my (and many others as well) employer to get rid of IE - our problem would be solved once and forever. just lost a whole page of text The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

Since you put so much effort in your posts I’ll give you the credit of being truly concerned and that you want to change something for good. On many points we should (and surely can) agree that we disagree and I have no interest in this developing into a nice pissing contest. I’ll take just a few shots You say “I'm not trying to bash SE down, I'm merely trying to make the old dinosaur to move!!!” Well it comes across totally different. Do you really think that this message will be heard at all? I know there’s been much talk about a new design going on and many people wait for it. And I have a bet for you: If they presented a new design within the next month people like you would be outraged “why it took the so long to come out with it” and “why did we have to jump the old stuff for such a long time?” YaddaYaddaYadda Next point - you say tandems are a death trap: Did you, in your long career as a packer and rigger (how many thousand of packjobs have you got?) ever take the time to read the warning label in bright orange on mains, reserves and containers? Bingo! Skydiving is a fucking minefield. Welcome to the real world. And it is your F******* job as a rigger to keep your jumpers safe. If you have worked out how YOU can improve some detail, get in touch with the manufacturer in question. If it is something that hasn’t been thought about already and your invention comes in handy, I am sure it will turn up in the next update. Speaking of updates: You criticise, that DHT-design is just one giant patch. I bet you post this from a computer running on windows. Updating gear in small steps (as being done on DHT’s) is _IMHO_ an evolutionary process. You do not have to reinvent everything from scratch over and over again to keep a system and a good team running. Heck I could even cite Bill Booth that with every safety update idiots evolve as well finding new ways to kill themselves (and others) making the whole process nearly worthless Your other point – the MR425 reserve not being designed as a reserve: Can you spell Decelerator or Raven? In the rare case of a malfunction - again IMHO – I want my reserve to be as big and strong as possible. I need Kevlar to do this? Fine – just use it! If I blow up a cell or two being at terminal or over with a master 425 I’ve still got something larger left over than if I jumped a PD 360. And if I go for a reserve-ride I surely don’t want the fucker to rock all over the sky stalling and recovering because of setup/trim issues. Thanks – I’ll stick to Masters! I am sure someone really clever will come up and state the superiority of the sigmas. Well that was Booths shot to get rid of all the inherent design flaws of the vectors without getting the new design totally free of (possible) bugs. Even the much acclaimed Skyhook had a major fuckup needing a “ghetto-fix” You ask if proper maintenance of tandem equipment is enough to keep TI’s safe out there: Honestly I don’t know. Remember: This is still a minefield. But it is the most vital first step never to be missed. Still another point: TSO’s – do your reading and find out if ANY manufacturer has multiple TSO’s for one design. AFAIK everybody’s just got one. Vector 1 & 2 ran under the original wonderhog TSO (If I am wrong on this, correct me, I’ll freely apologise) I definitely know how hard this whole incident (how I hate that word) must be for everyone directly involved and I can understand that many people want to get the spotlight off the people involved – but in this process you blur the lesson: Do what you want and how you feel if you go out alone. But under no circumstances leave the proven path when it comes to taking a student/passenger/punter/peace of living cargo with you That’s the last post on my behalf in this forum, because I think I have said all I had to say. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me has more details. Over & out If it really bugs anybody - PM me edit: I just found the following lines posted by riggerrob in this thread i guess they speak for themselves The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

IF the product had been used following all recommendations and guidelines two people still would be living. period. or do you argue the findings on the system owned (or rented/leased/whatever) by the I/E in question? if you own a vector/sigma or even a MarS and don't keep them in a working order (Regular Ispection & Repack, Repairs as necessary, etc) you'll be fucked sooner or later as well The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

Well, actually we have not... there is still just SE press release, not final report from CZ legal authority. It's IMHO just one side of the coin so far... so what will the czech autorities say? that the TI/E did everything right? will the czech authorities stand up and defend that they overruled the manufacturer recommendations, service bulletins and the guidelines under which the rating is to be issued? GIVE ME A BRAKE! Do you think the outcome would be any different if there had been the same amount of neglect with any other manufacturers gear? and the owner would have cared to come personally to your corner of the world to lead the investigation himself? no? then stop kidding everybody and stop opening diverting battlegrounds. The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

IMHO: with this whole arguement you try to divert the discussion from the main cause of the incident which triggered the whole debate: Non-existing maintenance and care maybe - I am not a rigger, just a strong rated TI, so my opinion is surely biased - DHT's are high maintainance. but maintaining DHT's and keeping them safe, seems pretty easy to me. ever tried to change a kill-line on a vector? this is high maintainance in my eyes. take this as a sidenote, because i have no interest in bashing any manufacturer for how they design their gear like you do if you really don't like strongs and working with them convince your dzo to buy other gear, this is a free world. until then it is your job as the dz's rigger to keep any tandem equipment in a working and safe condition and stick to manufacturer recommendations and safety bulletins by the book - which the dz where the incident happend failed to do The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

weren't you the guy who introduced himself as somebody taking along punters while chucking drogues and shoving cameras up their faces? maybe you've been araound sometime, but maybe you havent learned when to.... nevermind The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

now i know why it's so easy coming back from long spots

sorry I don't get it The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

when i first got myself a powerball is was constantly playing around with it - even while driving long distance in the car . was kind of addictive... seems like a good idea to check with your physio though. and keep us informed how it works for you

if you need some more strenght and flexibility try working with a powerball looks like a toy but this gadget is some serious training for wrists and arms edit: just saw that the company is located in germany, but they've got an online-shop as well. but I guess you can get the thingie somewhere in the states as well The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

every student gets the option to "opt out" of doing the jump just before the pilot gives the three minute call. if they say yes and we are in the door we go. if they say no, we'll stay and land with the plane. only exception is when i have the seat right in the door in a 182 or 206 - if we stay the others can't get out, so we have to go no matter what they say up to now i've had some very nervous ones but no refusal The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

if i remember correctly some riggers put out a "bait" on this problem some time ago (well at least my rigger did) without getting much feedback from the field. strongs solution with extra webbing and new buckles works like a miracle. once you've tightened your stuff it stays in place rock-solid

ahhhh - thats why in most vids on the net the students jump just in t-shirts & shorts without any head protection... The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

i'll give it a nice try: I was trained to give my passengers/students an alti - and i have to state that i've become lazy of lately. a good reminder to pick it up again i just have to find my second alti. giving your student an alti gives you something to talk about on the way up, the student a possibility to realize how fast they are falling and some more opportunity for talking once under canopy as for the "danger" & "added risk" arguement: honestly i don't see giving your "pax" an alti adding risk. maybe that school of thought stems from different approaches from different manufacturers. The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666

i am still wondering why you brought up the question again - you care to explain? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666