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Pilot chute toss was a little limp. But, hey! ...great spot! I thought that was a lost art.

Not impossible, but still unlikely. Most generally occupy an arctic or sub-arctic habitat. My guess is you are thinking of penguins. They are actually denizens of the southern hemisphere, which includes the Antarctic. There are lots of seals in temperate areas. San Francisco Bay is full of them. BSBD, Winsor Doesn't the baddest seal of all live in the antarctic? It's a "true seal", too. They eat penguins for breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper! Brunch, too!

Oh, ...they found alien life forms in California. ...Who knew?

I KNEW IT!! ....Silicone-based life forms!

Sounds like you'd pay the price of two albums. What's that these days? I'm going to a "heart" concert, outdoors, Ely Mn in Dec. I think it's something like 75 bucks a ticket. Did I tell you it's outdoors? In Dec? IN MINNESOTA? It's my Christmas present from Streaker,but the real present is all of the suffering he is going to be doing. Not the price tag. Actually 1976. I've seen him 3 or 4 times in between but the last time was at the Ice Palace in Tampa, 2002. The ticket stub says the price for that one was $41.25 ....so, still about 2 albums.

I paid $8.50 to see Rolling Thunder Revue in 1975. Dylan, Baez, McGuinn, Scarlet Rivera, etc. and I thought that was ridiculously high. I could have bought 2 albums for that.

This forum is about the oldest set up there is...(cheapest) guess we get what we paid for! People with common interests from all over the world can communicate, argue, share photos, etc almost instantaneously, but it still ain't fast enough!

I got a few trophies and plaques for boat racing. (I really preferred a check, but we seldom got them). I threw the trophies away after a few moves and I got tired of tightening the little nut at the bottom and dusting them. I kept the wall plaques. My son asks me why I tossed them and now I wish I kept the trophies. But I did take pictures of them at one point. Also got a few skydiving plaques. Oh, and a dart trophy.

Actually there is very little to impact on the war in Afghanistan so far released. In fact this would be a most brilliant sting if only the CIA were that switched on. Bradley Manning a US soldier could have been recruited by the intelligence agency and given a load of gossip marked secret and classified, in among which are several compelling arguments for a war with Iran. reports of Iran sponsoring terrorism on an unprecedented scale, the public announcement that many countries in the region actively seek a war with Iran; something that could never be said officially. Many reports on Iranian assassination attempts which will anger many. The price of which is some low grade gossip and a couple of red faces. In return the hawks get another step closer to a war with Iran they've been wanting for decades.... if only the CIA were that switched on. As for the head of Wikileaks he is a Australian so I don't see how he could be tried for treason against a country that he is not a citizen of. The Guardian (and every other paper who reported this would have run it through their lawyers before going to press. Besides, its the intelligence of a foreign nation so its really the US that is getting its knickers in a twist not the UK government. The freedom of the press to print this is beyond the US Government to stop. That's a pretty interesting take on the leaks. We'll have to see what kind of stuff is actually found in the cables after all .25 million of them are reviewed and interpreted for us by the various news "filters".

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iwccD-L13DUSB8jYF5UvKgNNrSEA?docId=41d41fe6ed584a2297be0ac61fc8033a I doubt anything substantial will come out of this.

Stalin would have taken them all out. I'm good with just the one guy they caught so far. Of course, "take him out" would mean kiss his ass for a few years while we wring our hands over how to not to make him uncomfortable in any way while we try to find someone else to blame his actions on.

I agree. But technically that could very quickly descend into the US being at war with its allies. Julian is Australian for example. Of course this is only relevant to Iraq and Afghanistan. The US is not at war with the UK so someone releasing confidential documentation that is embarrassing to the US is not an act of war in my opinion. I believe there are plenty of diggers and UK troops who may also be placed at additional risk because of these leaks. Edit to add: So if he's Australian then he is committing treason against Australia. Likewise, British newspapers that elect to publish sensitive information endangering British troops is committing treason against the UK. I'm not saying that I agree with what Wikileaks are doing (Because I don't) but looking at this dispassionately its yet to be shown that any lives have been put at risk let alone UK and Commonwealth troops. Treason? Unlikely, breach of the OSA, possibly. Well, the leaks can only be intended to undermine and sabotage the war effort. But I suppose the governments of Australia and the UK would have to determine if this guy's (and the Guardian's) actions rise to treason. To the US he is complicit in acts of espionage or at the very least he's an enemy propagandist. Out of the quarter million "cables" to be released just one containing a military secret that places a single soldier at unnecessary risk would be enough for me (IMO).

You get no argument from me here! Elections have been manipulated by all sides as long as there have been elections. I'm just answering dreamdancer's challenge to provide a single instance of a fraudulent vote actually cast as a result of ACORN's shenanigans. I've provided 3.

Just out of curiosity... in the Gunka trial next year... is the objective to determine whether a crime has been committed and that they committed it? OR would the state have already determined that voter fraud (multiple voting) has been committed and the trial is to determine their guilt or innocence?

Well, you have to "charge" and "allege" before you can convict. It's just the rules (for those who actually follow rules). Court date is April 20.

I could agree with that.

"......The complaint alleges that Miles and Clancy submitted multiple voter registration applications for the same individuals, and also were part of a scheme in which they and other SRDs registered each other to vote multiple times in order to meet voter registration quotas imposed by ACORN. Henderson is charged with one count of Voting by a Disqualified Person and one count of Providing False Information to Election Officials, both felonies. The complaint alleges that Henderson registered to vote at the polls on November 4, 2008, thereby certifying that he was a qualified elector. It also alleges that he then cast a ballot. At that time, Henderson was on an active period of probation for felony convictions from Rock County. A felon on an active period of supervision for a felony offense is prohibited by state law from voting in any election. Herbert and Suzanne Gunka are each charged with the felony offense of Double Voting. The complaint alleges that they each voted in the November 2008 election by casting absentee ballots before the election. The complaint also alleges that after casting absentee ballots, they each voted in person at their polling place on election day." http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/acorn-voter-fraud-indictments-in-double-voting-cases-in-2008/blog-274913/ http://www.wisn.com/r/22776041/detail.html http://familyfraud.com/tag/michael-henderson http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/08/acorn-registration-workers-charged-felony-voter-fraud/ Lots of other sources besides Fox but I used the Fox article to provide token balance to The Guardian.

Every good bureaucrat has his own special task ...regardless of it's rank in importance.

These guys? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian First paragraph: "The Guardian (formerly known as The Manchester Guardian) is a British national daily newspaper owned by the Guardian Media Group. Founded in 1821, it is unique among major British daily newspapers in being owned by a foundation (the Scott Trust, via the Guardian Media Group). It is known for its left-of-centre political stance.[3] At the 2010 election it supported the Liberal Democrats." Not saying their bias is relevant but what is their source that no illegal votes were cast?

I do woodworking and have refurbished/remodeled a house or two. I can't tell you how much wood I've cut/routed/drilled/planed a little off. "Measure twice, cut once!"

Are you sure her words weren't "You're half-a-bubble off plumb!"

Not quite sure what you mean by diggers? Finally to re-iterate I think this is embarrassing and not much more. Quote another site. "Diggers" = Australian soldiers I really don't believe this guy went to all this trouble to start a adolescent squabble over who called whom what.

I agree. But technically that could very quickly descend into the US being at war with its allies. Julian is Australian for example. Of course this is only relevant to Iraq and Afghanistan. The US is not at war with the UK so someone releasing confidential documentation that is embarrassing to the US is not an act of war in my opinion. I believe there are plenty of diggers and UK troops who may also be placed at additional risk because of these leaks. Edit to add: So if he's Australian then he is committing treason against Australia. Likewise, British newspapers that elect to publish sensitive information endangering British troops is committing treason against the UK.