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I agree, that IS how I started out my post. Thank you for pointing that out. The comment IS open to various interpretations. I should have been more clear on that point. Now Vallerina, I was not saying that a 100 pound girl in great shape is in danger. Thats just how you interpreted it. I guarantee you that I didnt mean that. I promise. I swear! It was posts about hard pulls that got me thinking about the topic in the first place, thats why I lead off with that. It expanded to be more of a general kind of overall fitness thing. (after a lively discussion about how many G's it would take to pin my arms) I know that arm strength will not prevent all hard pull mals in the same way that I know an AAD or RSL is always gonna save the day. It COULD help in some cases. It really could. No guarantee of it, but every little bit helps dont you think? That was my only point with regard to hard pulls. Andyman also rightly points out that being able to jam 100+ lbs of force against a handle or cable might not be the best solution to the problem of a hard pull. I really didnt mean to sound inflamatory or piss anyone off. I just commented on what I thought was a good way to enhance safety. As a bodybuilder, I feel that I can comment with authority on the subject of fitness and the potential beneits of it. I can then apply that knowledge in a general way to the sport of skydiving and reasonably comment that enhanced fitness can increase your level of safety through faster reflexes, reaction time, greater flexibility, and overall durability. Believe it or not, regularly lifting heavy weights and maintaining a good intake of calcuim will also increase bone density and strength, making them more able to withstand a hard blow. Are these not areas that could potentially benefit a skydiver in some circumstances? I would never presume to tell people how to skydive. Contrary to what some people have said, I'm not that arrogant. I have 57 jumps and all the vast knowledge that comes with so large a number I just had a thought and shared it as a lot of others do

Why does everyone keep misinterpreting this? As the original poster, I can tell you beyond any other interpretation what it means. Its simply this: "If you are in better physical condition, your chances of injury are lower than if you are not fit." Any qualified medical professional will agree with this statement 100% This is not open to any other interpretation. Based on some of the reactions I've seen and the hostility behind them, It looks like people read it and understand it to mean: "If you are not an olympic calibre gymnast or bodybuilder, then you are a danger to yourself and to others in the air and on the ground. You suck as a skydiver and as a human being" I'm not quite sure why people keep flying to this conclusion, but I cant really stop them or make my real point any clearer than I have. I apologise if people found this to be offensive for some reason. It was not my intent to anger anyone or make anyone feel bad about themselves. I now realize that I am not qualified to comment on ANY subject, even ones I am an expert in, until I have at LEAST 500 jumps. Perhaps I will just just stick with posting pictures of my own penis and other useful things like that. Strange as it seems to me, nobody is annoyed by that type of thing.

Dammit JT, What are you holding in your hands in that avatar??!? Its giving me a headache

14 years. But not for all of it :-)

The nicest thing anyone ever said to me was... hmmm Cant think of any.

Ok. Alcohol and guns. I seem to have left them out of my calculations...

Your options suggest that if you are not interested in style and accuracy, you MUST be "one of those new freaky flyers" I'm not one of those new freaky flyers but neiother am I interested an a style and accuracy forum

Nope. Only way my Cypres fires is if I am incapacitated. Period. Greed makes my mouth water but it doesnt incapacitate me.

I'm a bad citizen. I skip the political scene except at election time. I vote my gut feel, I forget about it till next time.

Actually I'm a 57 jump wonder and I'm sure that you swoop like a mofo. I wasnt comparing my swooping or landing skills with yours or anyone elses. My statements were not meant as a direct attack on you personally. I dont even know you. That does seem to be the way you have taken them. I'm sorry you chose to find offense in them. I never said being out of shape makes you a bad or unsafe skydiver. I didnt imply anything even remotely like it. I said that being in good shape increases your level of safety and decreases the chance for injury. This refers to your OWN safety, not how safe you are to be around. This is the sum total of my entire claim and its true. If you are stronger, there is less chance of a hard pull mal. If you are more flexible, you have less of a chance of getting hurt in a bad landing. Except for you, of course. You are too good to ever have a bad landing. You may agree or disagree as you like. I dont need to be a badass swooper or have 10 thousand jumps to know this. Its not arrogant or misguided. If you find it offensive, its because you chose to interpret it as an attack. Frankly, I dont know why. Cheers, Mr. 57 Jump Wonder

Hmmm. Strange thought. So I must have been in good shape my entire life to advocate fitness eh? I dont take your comment as rude cuz you didnt say it in a rude way. I must disagree with you on that point though. I am suggesting fitness as away to increase safety in skydiving. I dont believe I criticized anyone at all and I believe that my point is valid wether I've been working out for 40 years or 40 days. Truth is truth, no matter how long I have been working out. Better physical shape = faster reflexes and response time, greater flexibility.

Well I'm more of a Satriani style, epic hard rock kinda guitar player myself but a mixture of styles would seem to be appropriate for this group Another good name might be "In before the lock"

OHhhhhh! Duh, Becca. Yeah dude, do that. When are you cutting your first single? And who's the rest of the band? I assume you're the lead singer. Mama on lead guitar, Quade on drums? Any place for me in that band? I do play lead guitar and as we have seen I already have good chemistry with the lead vocalist We could be seriously entertaining!

True...I guess I wont get famous from it either

Can you put me down for a couple hundred thou?

Has anyone that said they will try the feet together thing gone on and tried it yet? and if so, what were your results?

Mine was in the "Stupid relationships" thread before it got locked

In before the lock! Actually whocares, the word "Troll" is commonly used to describe someone that appears to be bent on stirring up trouble rather than playing nicely in the forums. She wasnt attacking you.

Yes mam

5) Look both ways before crossing the street. *The sunnyone tries to lighten the mood with humor. Will it work? Let's observe...* 6. Always hold hands when going out into the world

Actually, you belittled another person for no reason and labeled his problems as essentially immature and unimportant. You are judging You are taking someone elses inventory You clearly still have some learning to do on the subject of humility. Read on...

Sorry, I have no memorized the entire text. I'll assume that page 449 is the one after 448 and before 450 You are pissed at something, that much is certain.

OK, I'm looking at page 449 section 2 of the third edition. I see a lot of wisdom on the subject of acceptance. It doesnt appear that you are being accepting of others here in this forum

I'm a recovering alcoholic sober 8 years now. I've read the big book cover to cover many times and frankly I dont recall anything in there that would excuse your rudeness. It sounds morelike you are still pissedat the world. Maybe you should go to a meeting and share

I am nobody other than another person that sees you being rude to people for no reason. I do not judge. You are the one being judgemental. I only comment on what I see. Who are you to be rude to people for no reason? I would be happy to read the passages you are referring me to if you would include the title of the text you are referring to.