brenthutch

Birds of a feather......

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/sep/13/donald-trump-blames-lightbulbs-for-his-orange-hue-video

It is largely due to the private sector, just as it was during the Obama administration. The Trump administration is just not putting up the same roadblocks as Obama. Obama tried to impede oil and gas development yet when he failed to stop it he took credit for its growth.

Bill I always knew that you were a greenie but that is taking it just a bit too far.

I believe Kallend is referring to Trump supporters, not trump. They are the evil men, and their idea of a good man is Trump. To be consistent with the OP, that would have to be the case. Please correct me if I am wrong

The US passed Saudi Arabia in crude production and extended its leads in other petroleum products in 2018. I'm not sure Obama was president at that time.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

"Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a weak man's idea of a strong man and a stupid man's idea of a smart man."

And as soon as it looked like Barack “spread the wealth around” Obama might have a chance at the White House, things went downhill fast. The same thing will happen if it looks like the Ds have a chance this time. We won’t have to wait for any policy to be implemented, just the threat of it will be enough to send the economy into a tailspin.

The economy just keeps setting new records every month. I just don't get the folks who always look for the worst in everything and refuse to acknowledge success when it is looking them right in the face. Low inflation, record low unemployment, rising real wages and a record peacetime economic expansion. Of course some numbskull will cry "what about income inequality" which reminds me of an old Russian joke that tells about a poor peasant whose better-off neighbor has just gotten a cow. In his anguish, the peasant cries out to God for relief from his distress. When God replies and asks him what he wants him to do, the peasant replies, “Kill the cow.” The joke illustrates an important point about human nature: the line between clamoring for justice and envy can be very thin.

Hopefully it will be cold and snowy, I have lots of snowboarding to do and the DZ goes into hibernation mode for the winter.

What do you pay in taxes? And how are your wildfires going?

I don’t pay much for gas as I only drive downtown and to the DZ <10,000 per year. Never had a blackout, wildfire nor $5 gas. I don’t have homeless people shooting heroine or pooping in the streets. I am ten miles from my DZ, two miles from skiing and world class mountain biking. Three miles from top shelf collegiate sports and concerts. I can even have a fire pit in my backyard, while paying a fraction of the taxes you are burdened with.

Have fun in your socialist utopia, with your blackouts, wildfires and $5 gas.

What????

Looks like I got a convert!! https://medium.com/@ProfByron/how-i-changed-my-mind-about-global-warming-f603a8aca3da

My favorite line, "But now, we have evidence that climate change or another disturbance may be liberating decades-to-centuries-old carbon from this landscape."

Another example of how the GND is a fantasy, especially for you climate warriors in California, good luck with your blackouts. "The world’s developing nations, led by China (which for some incomprehensible reason Democrats claim is California’s partner in “fighting climate change” even though it will increase CO2 emissions by over 4,700 million metric tons by 2030 from year 2004 levels) and India, are forecast by EIA to be increasing their CO2 emissions between 2004 and 2030 by over 11,300 million metric tons. Furthermore these nations are forecast by EIA to add an additional 6,300 million metric tons of CO2 emissions to their year 2030 total levels by year 2050. This EIA global emissions data showing the world’s developing nations increasing CO2 emissions by more than 60 times California’s tiny emissions decrease by 2030 overwhelming invalidates any credibility being attached to the states bogus and political backroom derived “fighting climate change” chicanery. rriers The world’s developing nations, led by China (which for some incomprehensible reason Democrats claim is California’s partner in “fighting climate change” even though it will increase CO2 emissions by over 4,700 million metric tons by 2030 from year 2004 levels) and India, are forecast by EIA to be increasing their CO2 emissions between 2004 and 2030 by over 11,300 million metric tons. Furthermore these nations are forecast by EIA to add an additional 6,300 million metric tons of CO2 emissions to their year 2030 total levels by year 2050. This EIA global emissions data showing the world’s developing nations increasing CO2 emissions by more than 60 times California’s tiny emissions decrease by 2030 overwhelming invalidates any credibility being attached to the states bogus and political backroom derived “fighting climate change” chicanery."

Yes those are costs associated with fossil fuels, to be intellectually consistent one must also consider the benefits of fossil fuels. Once that is accounted for, the costs pale in comparison, its not even close.

That is the whole point, catastrophic AGW is predicted on the notion that once CO2 was all in, then other mechanisms would kick in and feed the feedback loop. Well that hasn't happened. So....

Actually Joe, the effect of CO2 as a greenhouse gas doesn’t compound as levels increase, it drops off, logarithmically. Think about it this way; if you put on a blanket, you will be much warmer than without it. Add a second blanket and you will be warmer still but it won’t be double that of one blanket. Continue this thought experiment and you will see that the difference between 350 blankets and 410 blankets would be nearly undetectable.

That is fine, and when the market dictates (not some pointy headed bureaucrat) the shift to alternatives will happen on its own. You remember, Adam Smith and that invisible hand stuff.

What!?!?! My support of fracking would suggest otherwise. Technological advancements in fracking have lead to, lower costs of recovery, higher production and having natural gas replace coal is something we can all agree is a good thing.

"A pair of studies in Nature have said that, as of 2017, none of the major industrialized nations were implementing the policies they had envisioned and have not met their pledged emission reduction targets,[76] and even if they had, the sum of all member pledges (as of 2016) would not keep global temperature rise "well below 2 °C". Now you are more informed.

No, just amusement, jocularity and some good natured jesting. We are just laughing at you. Given you have no sense of humor, I understand that you would not understand.