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Come on, you have posted a link! how are you going to stop people now from visiting the thread and put things into context. They are going to laugh at your posts!!! I remember when i was 14 that i had fantasies with a friend of my cousin, she was in her twenties and she was studying to be a nurse. Oh man, was she good looking. But then again, i have always had a healthy sexual life, had i remained virgin till my thirties i would probably see things diferently. Please, let´s stick to the subject. If you want to talk about paedophilia, i suggest you start your own thread. (after reading the rules, no one wants to see you banned) I very much doubt that the U.S military is trained to shoot and drive by without even checking if they are dead or alive or even if they commited a mistake. You say you are training with the U.S marines, right? Regarding that thing of targetting innocents, that is what they did, didn´t they? They target them, kill them, and were innocents. Must be the language barrier. Okay, so 6 to 8 months to each for torturing an innocent civilian. You are damn right, i am not happy with the sentence. How much would you get in the U.S for stealing a TV? Can you explain how the fuck a bad conduct discharge is a life sentence? Big deal, dude, do you think that they actually care after torturing a civilian. What other option is there, calling him a hero? And on top of that, are you going to deny that no one died at abu grahib do to abuses? For god´s shake, dude, be serious, if you don´t want to post any more, i will let you say the last word to make you happy, but don´t post that crap because it will ruin your credibility in DZ. mercenaries mind you. And a mercenary outside his country is rarely innocent. Okay dude, you say the figure, and i take your word for it. How many innocent civilians have died in Irak because of U.S mistake?

LMAO!!!

Considering that i haven´t ever got banned or even gotten a warning for that thread. Most likely it is you who have issues and my post was within the context. Feel free to start a new thread and bring up my posts as well as yours. I remember i had many good laughs with your posts. Was that the thread about the asperger sindrome? I knew someone was helping you type. I know you will not take any advice from me, but again, read some history and you will have a deeper understanding of what is going on in the world. But of course it is easier to grab a gun and shoot anything that moves. good job dodging the question. I am not arguing with anyone wether they were found guilty or not. Hell, there is even pictures. I am arguing about the sentence. What was the sentence for torturing and killing an innocent? The one who do the reading and the one who do the posting should be the same person Juanesky, if not the posts makes no sense. As i said before i am not counting the ones killed by terrorist (i mean terrorist with no uniform) i am only counting those that your government consider as "collateral damage". What, are you telling me that you cannot trust your government? Thank you, and say thank you as well to the one that does the writing. By all means, do. But please, do it in another thread.

Considering that you haven´t ever met me, you are just guessing here, so your comments have no real value. Any input about your double standard beetwen your ex-girlfriend´s man and the philipine soldier? Maybe your ex-girlfriends man was a short guy. Come on, i will make it easier, the philipine soldier is also short. Would you now call him coward? I will take your word for it!!!!

Are you saying that i would only insult someone online? Are you calling me coward? Would you call me coward face to face? And what about if i was a philipine soldier?

Hummm, I wonder if Juanesky would aproach me in a DZ and accuse me of sleeping with childs face to face.

Considering that you don´t know me, that is a pretty adventurous assesment. Just some notes about myself, i am not usually the kind of person that goes around telling people what i think about them, good or bad. But if someone asks, or bring up the conversation, i always say what i think. Too bad you lost her to begin with. The point being? You have to be consistent always, not just once. Read your posts about philipines...

My god, it is the first time you answer with more than a one line smart ass remark. Congratulations. Dude, i take personal offence in the pro-nambla statement (that is a personal attack, by the way). As i am sure you know (you seem very well informed about nambla), nambla is about men having sex with boys. i assure you i am not into men-men relationships, no matter the age. If you like men, come to spain where you will be able to marry freely a hairy guy, but please, do not put your frustation on my shoulders. If you do not like men, stop bringing the subject up, you are misleading us. And do not make a fool of yourself insisting on the nambla thisg. Remember that there is a rule about paedophilia. It would be nice if you learn some history and did some thinking on your own instead of effortlessly taking everything for granted. The threat we all live under is the greed, ego, and search for power of those who will never be killed in a war, or in the subway going to work. Face it, neither you or me are one of them. I understand that you may be still paying for your green card, but no matter what you do with your life, you can do it knowing what you are doing and for what. Did you know that the oil pipe contruction in Afghanistan is finally well and alive? Dude, you are a pawn, you come and you go, you kill or be killed, and if you are a good person, your friends and family will remember you when you are gone, now or within 50 years. Don´t pretend that you are doing something for the world, or even for your country because truth is that the enemy today will be your friend tomorrow and viceversa. If you really want to do something, use your brain and offer solutions that will help short, medium, or even long term. Sorry about that dude, i assumed back then that ROE and geneva convention were not being teached. Now i see it, they are being teached, but they are not being used. Again the procedures to report misdeeds must be great but what has been the biggest sentence for the worst misdeed? Please, do answer this question. That is the problem Juanesky, that i do NOT adjudicate all the innocent deaths to the U.S personel (including mercenaries), only the "collateral damage", and the numbers are fucking scary. I am not using the 100.000+ figures, but the 10.000+ proven innocents figure, and it is not acceptable.

I guess that U.S military convoy, didn´t have the time to stop and capture the injured guy if he was indeed a terrorist, or help the innocent civilian if it was indded another mistake. Yep, what has been the biggest sentence to a U.S soldier since the beggining of the Iraq invasion? (a joke no matter what the crime) Haven´t anyone thought why most of the world smiles (laugh) when the american government speak about justice? Not bad, Sadam Husein would be proud. I wonder who learned from who considering that SH was bed mate with the U.S. Of course, many people who before were not as extremists and radical to become terrorist are now giving that big step to get revenge. Some people (republican mostly) don´t get that they are losing this war because of that. You are getting more and more terrorists, both from Iraq and from other countries (countries that by the way are allies of the U.S, like Pakistan and Morocco) How long can you stay in Irak? till you go bankrupt, or an international conflict with NK or China forces you to relocate all your military?. If you keep killing innocent civilians, you will need more and more troops to deal with the insurgency, only to leave a debastated country when you pull out like Vietnam. The use of mercenaries in an armed conflict that are so unproffesional (cowards), will only make things worse for your cause. First of all, they are being paid much more that the "professional" forces (not good for moral) and second they are not holding themselves to the same standard that the soldiers. Funny when those four mercenaries were executed how the U.S. media picture them as civilians. Considering that those findings would boost the moral of the iraqui army, the iraqui civilians, and the international opinion about the U.S if made public, it seems like not much is being done. Let the flame begin. Ah, I forget that it is all the media fault.

The british police has taken full responsability of the mistake, and had offer an apology to the family of the deceased. I am yet to see the american government take responsability for anything done ( i mean, something negative, you guys take responsability for all the good deeds around the world, done by you or not) or even apologize for their actions. (Well, you can not apologize for something you take no responsability, so i guess that is okay) Big diference. Now, if british police where killing innocent on a daily basis, i would be the first to scream murder.

Very well thought. You may want to send a copy to comander_in_chimp@whitehouse.gov I would like to remark the importance that the military, political and diplomatic fronts walk in the same direction.

For god shake, what a bunch of righteous people you are!!! i got 5 out of 6 on that one, I don´t remember ever stealing anything, but... oh yeah, forget that 6 out of 6. Come on, like anyone has never drunk when under 21, or burn anything, or run away when in trouble... The only thing we can blame the kid is doing it all in one night. but it is not without merit. I am not saying that this guy has no issues, and i am sure that he needs some time grounded to think about his actions, but jail time is way too much. At worst he will learn new tricks in his short jail term to do when he gets out.

Are you saying that it is not possible at the present time to tell which inmigrant is legal or ilegal? I don´t buy it, looks to me like a measure to appease the population, like something is being done. If you want to kick illegal inmigrants out (cheap labour force) you will need to convince your capitalist government and share holders to make a bit less of money.

You mean like the pics are photoshopped, or maybe the video has been edited. [replic] Anything to make Bush look bad is okay in their book. Yep, that is what politics is about.

Congratulations, you are a step closer to China. Way to go!!!!

Why don't you post a copy of the Al Queda handbook on here for everyone to see and enlighten us then? You may as well post the CIA hand book, i am sure they are not that diferent. As a matter of fact, they have a few things in common, like pictures of Osama Bin Laden. You need to read some history books and learn about terrorism, you will be surprised.

You guys love that stuff, don´t you?

Dude, you know nothing about terrorism. Keep eating Big macs and drinking Cocacola and let the people who knows about terrorism do the thinking. Have you ever heard about ETA and IRA (probably not). Well, It doesn´t mean that if the fighting is not done your way we are with the terrorists. No, i am saying that 10.000+ civilians lifes lost acording to the most pro-US reports mean showing a complete disregard for human life. Lets see if i can rephrase so everybody gets it. It is not okay to drop bombs on civilians even if you think that a terrorists may be hiding among them LOL I just had the image in my mind of Bush with a cowboy hat opening a fence. Guess who came in running...

‘No regard for innocent, human life’ In Washington, White House press secretary Scott McClellan strongly condemned the bombing, saying it showed insurgents “have no regard for innocent, human life whether it’s men, women or children.” Pot Ketle I am no AQ supporter, but i am not U.S supporter neither, so if this is the old "with me or against me" bullshit, i am not playing. I will support whoever of you guy who puts aside religion/money in favor of human lifes.

Those islamic terrorists are living among us. It is not like we can build a wall around Madrid and keep them outside. Sure we can send the army to every airport, train and subway, but then the next terrorist attack will be on a bus station or a mall while Madrid gets collapsed every morning due to long delays in check lines. Besides, where do you draw the lines? should the army check just backpacks or maybe shoes as well, or you would rather go with the random full cavity search. Oh boy, how hard the terrorsist would laugh if they saw that. There is no solution, but if choice was mine, i would increase intteligence about those groups rather than military presence in transport systems that will have no real effect. By the way, today since the London terrorist attack we are on highest terrorist alert. You may not have seen the security forces, but i am sure they have seen you.

You seem to have selective memory. Have you forgotten that it was general elections time? You know that little thing called democracy made up some 2000 years ago? Funny thing is that the terrorists had their biggest success with the U.S. Isn´t it true that you enjoy fewer liberties that before 9/11? Arent you guys involved in a war that is make you both look bad and a bit poorer? Isn´t your society more divided than ever? Isn´t it true that you have managed to torture and kill far more innocents at guantanamo than terrorists and that Europe is catching all the terrorists? Next time that AQ want to disrupt big time the U.S, they only have to put a bomb, burn a flag, and ignorance and greed will do the rest.

LOL that was funny.

Yes you do, that is what the U.S military does in every single war. In WW2 cilivilians were bombed. You guys dropped 2 atomic bombs on two cities. In Vietnam villages citizens where executed just in case, and now in Irak you guys drop bombs in resident areas just because you have a hint that a terrorist could be hiding. The civilized world could surely live without your wars and without terrorism. Ever wondered why canada, New Zeland, Finnland, etc are never attacked by terrorists?

I agree, but isn´t it an utopia as anarchism?

It is not about telling one company owner what to do. It is about setting some rules that every company owner has to abide by. That way no one will go out of bussiness since everybody play by the same rules. The only who will suffer temporarily will be the consumers, but it will be just that, temporary, for the economy will adjust around that.