TheAnvil

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Then whatever reality you live in doesn't comport with the Congressional Budget Office and the Office of Management and Budget. I could be mistaken about that Senate. It's irrelevant to the argument I presented. My data is correct - yours isn't. Fact. Deal with it. Face the facts anytime you like - facts they do remain. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Lies? I think not. I was pretty sure Reagan had a dem Senate as well - I'll have to look that up, actually. The House I know for sure - I recall the uproar when the GOP took it. It was the tax increase that lost them the in the '94 elections but it was an expanding economy and keeping discretionary spending under control that led to Clinton's budget success. GWB has jacked up the entitlement spending even more - which is yet another reason that entitlement spending is the main cost driver for the deficit and will be for years to come. To claim otherwise is simply not facing the facts of life. All of my budget data comes from CBO or OMB - from whence does yours come? DNC website perhaps? Left leaning political blog? Face the fact whenever you like - facts they do remain. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

My purpose in life is to drink as much tequila as possible. I haven't gotten past that part, but when I do, I'll let you know what I come up with. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

If you were familiar with the budget, the national debt, and how it came about, you would realize that mandatory spending has exceeded discretionary spending every year since 1974. Those of us familiar with such things certainly realize this, and therefore know that mandatory spending is the primary cost driver for the budget deficit. If you were familiar with cost projections for mandatory spending realize that with the Baby Boomers retiring along with the increase in life expectancy the rate of increase for mandatory spending will itself increase drastically. Those of us familiar with how appropriations are enacted realize that congress and the president both have roles to play. Those of us familiar with history realize that Clinton had a Republican House starting in 1994 and a Senate starting in '06 I believe - it could have been '00, but I forget. Regardless, Clinton had a Republican congress keeping him in check, which was a large part of his success. Those of us familiar with history also realize that Reagan had a democratic house and senate to deal with the entire gamut of his term. In case you've already forgotten, the legislative and executive branches are both involved in the appropriation of funds. Those of us familiar with history also know that the Democratic house and senate over-rode his veto on more than one appropriations bill. You were speaking of Reagan's discretionary spending being a disaster and that Republicans were to blame? Your partisan attack doesn't hold up to even a modicum of scrutiny - then again, one has to be familiar with history and the appropriations process to be cognizant of that. The democratic congressmen during Reagan's tenure in office contributed to his success as well in many areas of government. Those of us familiar with mandatory spending realize that the sitting president and congress have nothing to do with the legislation requiring that money to be spent unless they were also an elected representative at the time of its passing. Those of us familiar with mandatory spending also know that expanding social programs will increase mandatory spending, which is the main cost driver for the budget. Those of us familiar with discretionary spending realize that it is often foreign affairs, technological innovations, and catastrophes that drive discretionary spending. We who are familiar with such things also tend to be astute students of history, and are therefore quite cognizant of the Cold War, the internet, and the war on terror and their resultant effects on discretionary spending. Those of us who actually read my previous posts know that I gave credit to El Jefe Clintonista for his budgetary actions. Those of us familiar with basic accounting realize that those denouncing proposals to eliminate ineffective government programs have absolutely no credibility when discussing deficit reductions. Those of us who realize this chuckle most heartily when Democrats smear GWB for proposing to eliminate ineffective programs within the Department of Education. You'll see the phrase 'those of us familiar with' a multitude of times above. There's a reason for that. Some DZ.com'ers active within this thread are familiar with the budget and realize that both parties are to blame for our current situation and that we are in a pickle if we do not reform our entitlement programs. There are also those of us who don't have a clue with regards to history, budget formulation, budget execution, budget composition, or anything else other than partisan attacks against GWB. Those of us who do have a clue with regards to such things chuckle in the immediate, but worry about the long term for our nation because one might form a strong, strong argument that the pervasiveness of such ignorance throughout the electorate is as grave a threat to national security as any terrorist ever could be. Those of us who care, that is. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

I would have a shirt with J.A. emblazoned on the front and stilts. Everyone else would dress in freefly gear.

Bow out? Why should I? You've presented no facts I've not addressed, addressed none of the facts I've presented, and refuse to do anything other than spout standard liberal rhetoric and lies against/about republicans. Basically, you've presented nothing, responded to nothing, and when it comes to something substantial to say, have nothing apparently. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Your inability to comprehend the written word as well as economics is mind-boggling. Read up on your facts and get back to us. You're unfamiliar with the subject you are trying to discuss. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

May tequila find its way to you this evening, and the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits and crotch of the vile person that gave you that parking ticket. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Ray, that's fucking awesome! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Ahhh...missed that...thanks. My interpretation remains unchanged though. Nice little slam-GWB site there.

I'm a hypocritical libertarian. I tend to vote republican on the national tickets though. Make the change.

Ahhhh...you've FINALLY posted a graph of some data. How nice. 'tis quite unfortunate you don't know how to interpret it. If you'll take a look at the slope of your line during the Great Reagan's tenure and compare it with the slope of the best linear fit of the line during the reign of El Jefe Cliintonista, you'll find they're about equal. Now, to the credit of the Republican Congress - the legislative branch of government, as I'm sure you know, per Article 1 Section 9 Clause 7 of the Constitution, is the only branch that may authorize expenditure of funds from the Treasury (sans veto of the Executive branch, obviously) - and El Jefe Clintonista himself, the slope did level out towards the end of his tenure. The reasons for the similar rates of increase in spending between the two are quite different. However, the rates of increase are roughly the same, while you revile one president and seem to idolize the other. Quite interesting. Those of us who understand the debt and from whence it came, realize that the Presidents and the Congress for any given year have far less to do with the debt for that particular year than their predecessors, because the entitlement programs that are the cost drivers for that year were enacted into law far prior to the commencement of that year. Other factors come into play as well - increased discretionary spending due to wars, hurricanes, or what have you, new entitlement programs, excessive pork, and the like will all contribute to the overall deficit. You state that the graph has something to do with the economy - odd that it doesn't seem to actually do that. Please regale us with a creative tale of that interpretation. While you're at it, please do read the budget and try and understand the data therein. While you're in reading mode, you might want to read up on some of the things you're pontificating about in many of your posts. The infamous arsenic imbroglio during the nascent stages of GWB's tenure in office, for example. If you'd read up on it a bit perhaps you'll come to realize why those of us who actually know the facts about the arsenic shenanigans laugh so hard at leftists crowing about it. I could go on, but that would be impolite. Don't want you overburdened, you see. A quick recap: read the budget, learn about the great arsenic caper, your graph and economic data that may be derived from it, and a little less hatred. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

GFD is da bomb...I pick her up because she's cool...and has an eyeball...and tongue rings...and she drinks tequila...and maybe we can use the eyeball to look out for MORE tequila...

OK. That's two...who else is in for zamboni creeper races? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

I want to be towed on a creeper behind a Zamboni, brandishing a bottle of Patron and singing Christmas carols with reckless abandon! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

I thought more about it, and I'm sticking with Lincoln's successor, Andrew Johnson. Horrid set of choices he made that really set back the reintegration of the Southern states by decades. Possibly Lyndon Johnson, but I don't think history wlll be as harsh on him as on Andrew Johnson. Anybody know if they were related in any way?

Die hard Bush fan? Hmmm...I wouldn't say that - I'm quite perturbed at several things he's done ranging from the structure of his second tax cut to the lack of a single vetoed spending bill to the steel tariff imbroglio to the moronic anti-gay marriage ammendment proposal. I'd rather characterize myself as someone who doesn't like to see him impugned baselessly. I do support many of his positions, however, so perhaps I could be correctly characterized as a Bush supporter. Anyhoo, I'd have to think about when in history and get back to you, because off the top of my head I'm not sure. Perhaps Lincoln's successor. He had the opportunity to welcome the southern states back in and commence a cooperative rebuilding effort, but instead took a far more contentious and punitive approach towards the southern states, with horrid consequences for all. Ask any conservative or libertarian leaning fellow or lady, and I'm fairly confident any of them would state that this Republican congress has been an absolutely abyssmal disappointment. I'll get back to you on the history thing, as I'm not in history-mode right now. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

You got the 'we pay more' part right. We pay more for all public services because of the strains these invaders place on our already strained health care, police, and other public services. Opening the border to all would further strain these services, which are already insolvent. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Just wondering what anyone else might think of this. I personally think the European differences with the US will sink this round prior to TPA expiring. Been reading about this intermittently for a while. Thoughts, anyone?

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No, it's my way of not giving credence where none is deserved.

It's clear you haven't read the budget and are not familiar with it. Read the budget and try again. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Dem's can't veto anything right now - the veto power rests with the Executive branch. The fact that not one of the pork laden spending bills have been vetoed is a disgrace. The President did propose that several programs shown to be ineffective or having no measurable effect within the Department of Education be eliminated. The cries from the leftists and their sycophant NEA were horrendous.

Oh, without 9/11 and the Iraq War the budget would have a completely different character/flavor. The mere addition of DHS added new dimensions to it. GWB and this Congress have definitely increased discretionary spending - no doubt about it. Not one spending bill has been vetoed and there's pork everywhere. However, the programs that created the mandatory spending were made decades ago and have only been modified since - not reformed in a major way. Look at the % of GNP you'd have to tax to keep up with the projected outlays - even holding discretionary spending constant. Can't be done realistically.