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Hall draft card. There are very few military records on him. He seems like a very average soldier. No color pics as of yet. Ryan’s AI photos now have Cooper looking yellow. Maybe Hall’s jaundice from hepatitis :).

His draft card says brown, so I’ll put that in the legit category. It also mentions a scar on his face. Not sure how big. Hall is better than many suspects. I don’t buy into the whole Cooper was CIA or some soldier of fortune though. My issue is the same as it’s always been with that group. No accountability.

Demolition training not needed at all. McChord could be picked out on a map. That list could be thousands of people. At least he passes the first round with age and eye color. A lot of people say they know who Cooper is and we find out he’s 25 and had light eyes.

I remember him mentioning the categories, but I meant that I’d like to see the matrix in action. I assume it’s in Excel, and I’d like to see how the points are calculated. Is it one point if you have something and zero if you don’t, etc. At first the wrinkles did not seem like a big deal, but after seeing the pics in the book, Hall seems to have the noticeable wrinkles in most pics.

Any summary on why Skip is the best Cooper suspect since Vordhal? I’ll get to the transcript at some point. From what I have now, this is why Skip is the best suspect. 1. Ryan doesn’t like Fly. 2. Ryan does not like Hahnemann as a suspect. 3. Skip was anti Castro 4. Skip is number 1 in Ryan’s matrix that no one has seen and no one has been able to input their own ratings. Maybe I’ll ask on Reddit.

It will be buried in a 3 hour YouTube video with commentary from the peanut gallery about how awesome the information is. I used up all my Cooper time last night reading the Skip book. Hopefully Ryan summarizes things for those of us who prefer things to be written down.

I read the book last night on Kindle. John is meticulous. I just have a different interpretation. I have some commentary I’ll put together. My initial impression is that Hall was a story teller and exaggerated things and that from the standpoint of a regular person/civilian that his military experience was interesting, but from someone who has served and knows the deal, I don’t find it unusual at all. His military experience that is. Now his Cuba stuff, I’d have to look at more info. I think he liked the attention. I’d like to hear the top 10 reasons he is the best Cooper suspect or even a top one.

Help us out here, what are say the top 5 to 7 things that make Hall this fantastic Cooper suspect? Above all the rest or most of the rest? Remember, we heard that about Klansnic, Vordahl, Braden, Catalano, etc. etc.

I don't know if John L. is being diplomatic, or he really believes that by calling someone a POI instead of a suspect absolves him from any "ethics" issues imposed by the social club. EU was one of the first to claim using POI was ok, but not suspect. So calling someone a POI, writing a book, or having news stories is ok, just as long as you don't use the term "suspect". Anyone who subscribes to this is just splitting hairs. The Vordahl team absolved themselves of all "wrondoing" by not putting him on Wiki or the news, but it was ok to announce him at the conference and for Nicky to blast his name every day for years. The fact is that the social group does not make the rules of life or ethics. It is a bunch of hobbyists, known mostly to a small group. Mary J or others who want to criticize can keep doing it, I'm fine to be judged by people who have no impact on my life. Also, John says that because he is not a suspect peddler then it's ok and because he has not come out and named Hall as Cooper then he is still above the fray. He wrote a book about him, it is on Amazon under DB Cooper books. Come on. Enough of the hypocrisy from the whole Vortex. If you mention someone in the Cooper case, then you are outing them, whether or not they have a criminal record. Own it. Who are the suspect peddlers? That term has become cliche. Does having one suspect make you a peddler? Two suspects, three suspects like Nicky? I don't have an issue with John's research, it obviously took a lot of time. My issue is that no one is willing to question anything.

I’m confused here. I thought the A sketch is your go to now.

Right. Only Cooper knows. But you’d think by the Facebook posts that the Cooper group knows exactly what he meant 50 years later. The color of the parachute is a new one. We can’t even get the rigs right, but somehow we know what color the canopies were. We just don’t know for sure on many things.

I think he just meant Minnesota is nice country, which it is, very nice. But there’s nothing to say he would not use puns and jokes. He said “I don’t bite”. He seemed to be having a good time.

Why can’t he question a suspect? He’s called out legitimate issues. Again, you bring in Hahneman. It dilutes your arguments. If Fly brings in Vordhal and Braden then what? Are you banned from critiquing? What about all the other people who have their ideas? Hall gets a pass because John is in the social club inner circle.

You’re using misdirection and red herrings as well as your personal beef with Flyjack to move focus from Hall. One has nothing to do with the other. It has become like clockwork.

There has been some good research, but this belief that one has to fit their suspect to every little clue is unnecessary. I do love how his big nose is not an issue but Smith’s and Hahneman’s noses are. For now Gryder, Ulis, and Edwards have the majority of the publicly, and of course McCoy.

There is chatter from Mary J. about updating the list of Wiki suspects to remove some names. Like she has a say in that. Her sole contribution to the case is a series of memes and spinning up William Smith’s daughter. The social group still thinks that if they “feel” a certain way then they are in the right. Remember, you can call someone a POI and you are a stand up guy, but if you use the term suspect you aren’t. Even if the term POI is exactly the same thing. Apparently Skip Hall is Forest Gump and has been everywhere in the world and was a shrimp boat captain and is hands down the best suspect on the matrix. Again an example of no one being willing to question certain people and suspects.

I’ll be starting to work on a new blog entry on William J. Smith, and some updates to my website. I might do a YouTube video on him. Stay tuned. Some new info. May take a while, no rush.

Ok. The pics didn’t load for me the first time.

Who are the suspects that look like A? Or POIs or whatever term we are using.

My observation is that many people do not have enough case knowledge to feel confident questioning these claims that the B sketch was just a mistake, or an admin error as stated by Jude. I wonder who has even read or still reads the 302s besides Ryan, Fly, and myself. I assume there are more. I hope. I do find it amusing that now people are saying their suspect looks like Comp A when they used to be all about Comp B. How can you look like Comp A and Comp B? They are clearly very different people. I encourage people to ask questions and not just fall for the party line. 50 years later all of a sudden A is a better sketch. That’s not as bad as the Western Flight Path, but it’s still a big leap from what the FBI believed. Until I see something truly solid, then I have trouble believing everyone in the FBI made a mistake. The witnesses are all over the place on all sketches.

Add Rohit to the list too. He’s had some good insight.

To be fair, when have you acknowledged that you’ve been wrong? I don’t remember many times if at all. There is not a lot of people in the Vortex who acknowledge being wrong that often.

I’ve mentioned that the Facebook groups are more of a social community and that overshadows legit curiosity and research. Some of the people on there who I’ve seen who are willing to ask questions and not just take the party line are: Paul R. D. Mark S. John K. Shawn W. Dave U. This is not the complete list, but this group is worth following. I certainly don’t agree with everything they all say or even the delivery of one or two, but none of us agree on everything. They disagree with me I’m sure. These guys will at least offer counter arguments and keep the politics out of things. There are others out there too, but this group is a set that do not get a lot of publicity in the case.

Looks like the morality police are out again. Every couple of months William Smith’s daughter stirs the pot and then the fake accounts come out and comment and the morality police comes out with their shaming language, gas lighting, theatrics, red herrings, misdirection, guilt trips, and manipulation tactics. Like we are a bunch of second graders getting lectured by our teacher. The tree house group has hamstrung themselves by claiming you can only name someone who has a criminal record or was investigated by the FBI. As Liz R. says, why even be on the groups or in the case if that’s the deal. But using POI instead of suspect absolves you of all sin, and if you keep it on Facebook or at CooperCon you are absolved of sin too. What a joke. Try naming someone as a POI in a robbery or pedophile ring and see what happens. With minimal effort I could find skeletons on everyone. Also, EU naming random people for publicity is not the same as someone else doing actual research. My favorite is from John H. who must have bought the sob story on Smith and says the Oregonian should not have published an article. Here’s some news, they have 7 Pulitzers. Smith was in the news for years, but all of a sudden it was a 2 second clip in episode 4 of a Netflix show that exposed him or a History Channel documentary that most people never even saw? I should name all the people who have helped me with Smith or been curious or are now silent or actually now claiming they weren’t part of it I’m not here to change minds. But where is the curiosity? It’s gone. All people do in those groups is regurgitate and rehash the same info. Sad to say that the intellect is not there, except for a few people who are overshadowed. And the boys vs girls thing is not helping. Pat B. has some solid ideas and research, and it would be great to hear about her talk with Alice. Let her talk. We don’t see eye to eye on everything, and I don’t agree with her saying Smith’s daughter is a victim, but she brings a lot more than she takes. Anyhow, you all should start charging for membership and maybe have a rush or pledge class. The group spends more time backstabbing and back channeling then they do researching. So many lemmings falling for the latest tie analysis. How many times do you have to get burned to give it up? Or ranking top 5 suspects like it’s NASCAR and there are points for second place. By the way, it’s the newspapers and shows that start using the term suspects, it gets them more views. Anyone saying POI is better than suspect is a full on hypocrite. Have at it on Smith. I always know there is talk going on when I see the hits on websites. You guys are the best advertisers.

It sounds cooler that he boarded with an attache case versus “He boarded with an attache case and a shopping bag from Publix”.