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Hey Lady, Glad you made it. Welcome to Ca. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

***Hear what your saying about the Police its the same here. But come on your not judge and jury. My reply: You break into my home with bad intentions, I become the judge and jury. You threaten the my life or the life of my loved ones, I become the judge and jury. Your choice not mine. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

***No, your conclusion does not follow from those facts. Correlation does not necessarily equal cause and effect. What it could mean instead, is that spectators at public events are just far more likely to sue someone who is "responsible" for their injuries, than spectators at a regular parachute center. Lawyers at demo events have "deep pockets" to go after. If you have insurance, they'll sue for that insurance money. If you are uninsured and have no major assets, they don't waste their time on you. The dollar amount of payouts in lawsuits has no bearing on the competence of the skydivers. QuoteThis is your post I was responding to. And I responded with "What it could mean is that they were injured by a Demo jumper who did not have the skills/judgment to do the demo. If he/she had the skill/judgment the spectator would not have been injured. That correlation equals cause and effect won't you say." My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

This is however complete Bullshit. Just because one guy acts like this does not make EVERYONE wrong. Canopy colisions happened under Stratostars. Its a moron under any canopy. But to answer your question...Who has the right of way? Everyone but ME! As far as I am concerend you are all out to kill me. Come on Ron, tell me you agree with my solution. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Hey, I resemble that remark. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

You are more than welcome. Always glad to be of service. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

That does sound like it was something you wanted to do insead of something that happened to you. It all so sounds much more gracefull. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

The best way to deal with people like that is to go up to them and in a very polite way stomp the fuck out of them. Pain is an excellent teacher. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Wendy, Excellent post. As long as we have to land parachutes, the PLF will always make a difference. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

The key word there is "could". You have listed but one scenario for an insurance payout. We can cherry-pick imaginary scenarios all day to "prove" a point. But they don't really prove anything in general. Let me illustrate my point, using scenarios like yours. Lets say you have two incidents where a spectator was injured: #1) At a football game with thousands of spectators, PRO-rated jumpers, and an insurance policy. #2) At the home drop zone, by a B-licensed jumper landing in a picnic area, who owns no substantial assets. Now, which of the two injured parties is more likely to sue? The demo jump spectator, of course. Why? Because they have "deep pockets" to go after with that insurance policy. The drop zone spectator doesn't have anything to go after, except to garnish some poor guy's wages. Lawyers don't want to fool with that. And it was the more highly qualified jumper who generated the lawsuit. Hence, the fact that a lawsuit was filed in one case, had no bearing upon the competence of the two separate skydivers. The only factor at play here is: deep pockets. There's a reason that the Relative Workshop changed their name a few years ago to the Uninsured Relative Workshop. That name is supposed to serve as a flag to the lawyers, that they shouldn't bother sueing, because there aren't any deep pockets. If you have insurance, you will be sued. If you don't have insurance, and don't have any assets, you are pretty much lawsuit-proof. First of all it is not my scenario, I was responding to your post. The key word "could" was also from your post. I said if the jumper had the skill and judgment needed he would not have hit the spectator. If he had not hit the spectator there would not have been a law suit. That is the cause and effect correlation again in reference to your post. Where you got the rest of this shit is anybody's guess. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

The key word there is "could". You have listed but one scenario for an insurance payout. We can cherry-pick imaginary scenarios all day to "prove" a point. But they don't really prove anything in general. Let me illustrate my point, using scenarios like yours. Lets say you have two incidents where a spectator was injured: #1) At a football game with thousands of spectators, PRO-rated jumpers, and an insurance policy. #2) At the home drop zone, by a B-licensed jumper landing in a picnic area, who owns no substantial assets. Now, which of the two injured parties is more likely to sue? The demo jump spectator, of course. Why? Because they have "deep pockets" to go after with that insurance policy. The drop zone spectator doesn't have anything to go after, except to garnish some poor guy's wages. Lawyers don't want to fool with that. And it was the more highly qualified jumper who generated the lawsuit. Hence, the fact that a lawsuit was filed in one case, had no bearing upon the competence of the two separate skydivers. The only factor at play here is: deep pockets. There's a reason that the Relative Workshop changed their name a few years ago to the Uninsured Relative Workshop. That name is supposed to serve as a flag to the lawyers, that they shouldn't bother sueing, because there aren't any deep pockets. If you have insurance, you will be sued. If you don't have insurance, and don't have any assets, you are pretty much lawsuit-proof. First of all it is not my scenario I was responding to your post. The key "should" is also from your post, not mine. I stated that if the jumper had the skills and judgment he would not have hit the spectator. If he would not have hit the spectator there would not be a law suit. That is the cause and effect correlation I was refering to from your post. Where you came up with all this other shit is anyones guess. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

The suit and life support equipment required would cost more then $1,000,000.00. But it would be one hell of a ride. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

I don't know how much thought you've put into this but just a few of my suggestions. When you say personal defense I assume you mean in your home. The other option is for concealed carry on your person in public. Two things to consider here. One, is that for home defense you want to eliminate multiple penetration of walls if you happen to miss your target. Hand cannons have a tendency to blow big holes in walls. Not sure if you have kids or neighbors to be concerned with. Two, carrying a large caliber handgun around on your person concealed is a pain in the ass, literally. Other factors to consider: Reliability is dependant on what your application consists of. If it means pulling it out every once in a while and it working correctly then just about every gun out there will work(don't get me on a S&W rant) but if your looking at using the gun for matches or any type of serious shooting then your looking at modifing an off the shelf gun. As far as accuracy goes, that boils down to individual shooting skills. Any modern gun is going to shoot where you point it. It's all the variables between your putting your finger on the trigger ,aiming and ultimately squeezing the trigger that determines where the round goes. I have witnessed this first hand and now am fairly good at doing it myself. I watched Jerry Barnhart pick up several guns he had never fired before and shoot them better than the owner from the first round. It's about knowing how to do the basics very well, thats the secret, don't tell everyone As far as your choice in weapons and caliber I can say this, many police and Gov't agencies use 40 so it may or may not affect the cost of your ammo for maintaining proficiency but it is something to consider. I don't want to start a caliber debate. I have shot the model you are looking at in 45 with all the Luke skywalker attachments to include suppressor on the gun. That has got to be the hands down heaviest hand gun I have ever had to tote around short of the Desert Eagle 50. By itself , the weapon is average for weight and "feel" in the hand. Add any of the accessories and it gets awkward. Not to mention the holster, unless you have one made to allow all those attachments to be on the gun, your not going to find anything to readily fit it and if you do it will cost you more than the average price range for a good holster. Just my experience and opinion. To prevent over penetration and the possibility of injury to family or neighbors, use a short barrelled shotgun with #4 shot. 00 or slugs with give you to much penetration. If you need to, take a course on it's use in confined spaces. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

CZ-75, 147 gr. hydro shock. Back up, Walthe TPH. Trust me, they do stop the bag guys. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

They still use the the hearse at Skydive Taft and the airport in town. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

It was the Green Star. On of the people that had this problem, fired his reserve at Otay and went in screaming at the top of his lungs. He landed about 200 feet for where his wife and kids were sitting watching Daddy skydive. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Andy, He's got 27 jumps and has not jumped in 11 months, do you think your suggestion is reasonable? My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Keith, Way to go. I quit Nov. 10, 2002. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

I am retired, hope you kids can work things out. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Got the new Para Gear last week, and the new Parachutist yesterday. :) I got my Para Gear over a week ago and won't get my magazine for another week. Para Gear for reading sucks. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

I think what he is stating is the interpretive differentiation (or maybe even outright definition ...but I'm not running off to the dictionary or anything) between pillow style and handle type. If you have a handle (like a D-ring for instance), I suppose it implies in of itself that you can NOT therefore have a "pillow". By definition they are mutually exclusive. You either have one or the other. That would be a neat trick now though! If either of you do get one of these, please let me know how it all works out! Blue Skyz, -Grant What I was saying is I have a metal "D" handle on both sides, one for the reserve and one for cutaway. Is that what you think would be a neat trick? Pillows are for sleeping on. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

That is probably the best advise posted on the subject yet.

QuoteWhy do you think Bill has the name of his company "The Uninsured Relative Workshop"? Hell, I had a guy file on me after he failed to flair the canopy on landing after an AFF L-1 jump and broke both femurs. Sent his lawyer a noterized copy of my net worth and I was dropped from the suit ASAP. The less insurance, the better IMHO.[/reply I think you missed the whold point of this discussion. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Small BASE rig for a small person ? Either that, or SOMEONE would complain that I DIDN'T put it in there. Your choice. Now you have 3 clowns that think their rigs weigh less then 10 pounds. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

You are the first one that has noticed that, good eye for detail. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals