mikeat10500

>[OK - I'll bite... I think both programs are outdated and that what is called for is a new program which would be a 'hybrid'program,...< The idea sounds great to me. mike. ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.

>I realize the S/L program has trained thousands of skydivers or many years, yet the very concept of sending people who have never really skydived out the door of a plane alone almost seems insane. I would compare it to teaching swimming lessons on land and then telling the students to just go jump into the deep end while the teacher watches from the pool deck. Excellent...that's what it feels like! After instructing a student to arch and pull you watch them leave the A/C....fold and grope. That's why they invented AFF. It's safer,faster and more educational"performance wise".You do have to have respect for people who came up through the conventional way" clear n pull- delays"...it's a very exciting way to learn! Is it just me, or is S/L completely out-dated? S/l can still be used to introduce people to the sport when tandem is not an option. Then they can progress to aff program. Small DZ's can than handle lots of first jump students. ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.

I agree If I was envolved in tandem,aff,or stunts I would most likely choose to use an aad. If I jumped a hot canopy I'd have a rsl too.But for the type of jumping I'm doing...I don't req the 1st and don't want the second. I know I can screw up, but sooner or later everybody dances with the reaper. ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.

Tonto I'm quoting Ron because I would like to add something." please keep in mind, I think of myself as a very safe skydiver even though I do not wear an aad." >Tommy...Knocked out. Damn that sucked. Shit happens. If Tom was only knocked out than YES an aad could have cut the loop and started reserve deployment seq." thats all they can do!" This does not ensure a safe landing." think of a square reserve...I know it's crazy but some people have them." A freefall collision can do a lot more than knock you out! >Rob Harris....Stunt...Screwed up and pull the handles in the wrong order. If Rob pulled the handles in the wrong order than an aad would be useless. "I never did know what happened there." >Patrick...Rigging error, low pull. He screwed up. I understand Patrick sewed a line on his main to his rig(horse shoe), how could an aad have helped? ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.

Ron no i did not take you the wrong way. i meant what i said " i like the way you think". I know i look stupid w/protech...i saw the pictures p.s. and now you can see the pictures too! at http://www.geocities.com/mikeat10500/index.html later mike. [ QuoteWell I never said YOU said people who jump without a CYPRES are stupid....Sorry if you took it that way. ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.

Sorry man...I'm new to the forum and completely missed the date thing. I was trying to say there are still some people that prefer pull-outs but now I realize that even the topic is out of date...wow! ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.

RE:Deployment systems Witty answer(not to be taking seriously) Ripcrods are for reserves, Toss outs are for students and girls, But real men jump pull-outs! The truth is both systems can be safe...the key word is can be. Changing deployment types is very serious stuff! Try before you buy! ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.

mine was a cruselite 220...cruse lite, land heavy! ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.

I just like to say...I like they way Ron thinks! I wear one beacause shit happens....I don't preach the people getting knocked out story. I don't wear one cause of the cost. I got a protech hard hat to help avoid getting knocked out...looks stupid though! I think they are great things.... Me too...if I jump someone's rig that's equipted w/aad when they ask if its ok to turn it on, I say sure...don't plan on being in free fall at 750'. But I can't justify the expence for my own rig. I got the protech for free and it never req batteries. But most "saves" are from negligence, not being unconsious. I hope so...I've been betting my life on it. I just wish people would be truthful... Not gonna happen'. A better statment would be "I have an AAD because shit happens, and I would rather not die even if I fuck up." I'd sign up for that...but AAD's can't always save ya, they can't prevent main/reserve entanglements, they can't stop ya from steering a good canopy into solid opjects."Mabey some day airbags will deploy if ya screw up a high speed landing." ....Just don't rely on the damn thing. That is how they trained me...good thing eh! Ron ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists.