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Go here http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1090518#1090518 I have attached a chart. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Oh geeze no wonder your a leftie. Lets give to those who don't want to work as hard. No it does not: Where does it say BALANCE? Its not EQUAL if you have to take away from one to give to another. Oh thats such crap...I don't like discrimination in ANY form, you favor discrimination as long as it goes one way (and its the way you approve of). "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Im only at 100 and that is the funniest shit I have read in a LONG time. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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So its OK to hurt me to help others just because of something that happened 200 years ago that none of my family had anything to do with? Oh, and one of my great, great uncles died fighting the south.....So where is my reward? And I would have to venture that the blacks in this country have a much better life than if there families had never been brought over....That does not excuse it, but why punish me for something I have never done... Oh, thats right its OK to punish the White, Middle class, Male...Its the only race/sex that its OK to make fun of, and discriminate against. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Can I borrow her come Oct? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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WOW Doc, you managaed to slam Bush and bring in the NAZI's in one post!!!!! I don't see how the NAZI's tie into this...But you got your slam in against Bush so you can move along now. Besides...Lincon was not rich....And if you want to bring in the past how about how JFK's grand dad was a smugler and a stock manipulator? Still has about as much relevence to this thread as your post did..Oh yeah and Clinton was a liar!!! "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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To quote you All discrimination....Of course its OK cause you say it is OK. But it is still discrimination. You would know since you and I went rounds on this back in the post about the mexican girl that was here illegally... You looked at my website and saw that out of a 4way team only I was an American. Depends...I don't have a checksheet. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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You have already said you go looking for them, just not at some places, thats discrimination. That also would be discrimination...I quit a job over that issue...The older employees that I supervised got paid more...When I found out that the boss was paying them more since they had families I quit. On a fun jump I don't look for anything...For a team I look at past performance, and attitude....I can assure you that color does not come into play, or race....You know this. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Thats pretty much it folks...He supports racism as long as he thinks its OK...Would you tell the KKK that? I mean they think its OK also. Then I guess you need to make it more attractive to live in those areas huh? Maybe you could force a few rich white folks to move there..you seem to like forcing people to do things. Wrong home boy, I don't support AA cause it racist. And I have faith that the people who want it bad enough will make it happen..... You clearly would rather punish the people who can perform to allow others to get a free ride.... "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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I tell them to never touch my hands...Because if they grab my hands I can't opporate the system and we both are gonna die...The only pleasure I will get in that situation is that they will die first, but I will not get much time to enjoy that fact. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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So your racism is OK? And the other is not? Says you...I want to play in the NBA, but I'm short...Is that MY fault? I think the NBA should have to hire more short people....Otherwise its unfair and should have AA put into place. If more black kids went to school and finished...Then funding would go up. Socitiey IS him and his family...Its not MY fault that more black kids don't finish school. Quote "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Uh, yes that is dicrimination. More discrimination. Seems to me like you have discriminated against a few places already. So NASA is racist? As are many organizations. So the best answer you can come up with is to make organizations hire less qualified people to be fair? Hint: Thats not fair...Its discrimination....Just in this case you approve of it so its OK in your book. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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National Association for the Advancment of Colored People.... You think they would help me a white, 31 year old male? I could join, but they would not care two shits about my issues. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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But none of your reasons have anything to do with racism....It has to do with economics. Some of my high school books didn't cover Vietnam. I still learned about it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Here is where your whole thing goes to shit. The "fair" employers would hire the best canidates...Not a %. Its also not fair to the guy that didn't get the job becasue of quota's.....We have programs in place to PREVENT racism...But we also have programs that ENCOURAGE another form of racism (AA). Affermative action IS Racist. BTW I have attached a graph for you. It shows how more white kids (%) get a high school diploma than black or hispanic....Well the first step is for the black and hispanics to stay in school at the smae RATE as white kids.... Now if you will excuse me I have to go and prevent some black kid from getting a high school diploma, then I have to help some random white kid with his homework. Its the kids fault and his or her parents fault they don't finish and get a good job. But you would rather support racism in the form of AA. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Then more blacks should work like hell to own companies huh? So its OK to hire less qualified blacks just because someone else will hire the less qualified white? So you think its OK to have government sponsored Racism as long as it benefits minorities? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Well the first step is to get the kids to apply themselves...Which they are not. If more white kids apply to college, then more white kids are going to go to college.And more white kids are going to get degrees...It only makes sense that more white kids are going to get good jobs...If I have 10 black applicants, and 100 white applicants and only 3 jobs....I want the Top 3, not the top 2 white, and top black one. The first thing is to get the young black kids to GO to college, increase the available pool of talent and let the best rise to the top. How many world class black 4 way guys are there out there? How many black on the 357 way? Does that mean skydiving is a racist sport? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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So? The racist would find away to hire white guy anyway. And if both are EQUAL then its his buisness...My issue is when a LESS qualified guy gets the job...It's wrong for the white racist to hire the less qualified white guy, but its also wrong to have to hire the less qualified black guy because of some quota you have to meet. The difference is that hiring the less qualified black guy is legal, and even encouraged...And all the time under the guise of being "Fair". "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Thanks, but no. I don't agree with these types of organizations so I'd never join one. Then again I'm not a member of all white organizations either since I don't believe in them either. But I have had enough black people show racist tendencies towards me to know I would not get treated the same as a black member. Thats a fact, but you don't see me yell "RACISM". Your very organizations you claim to prevent racism....ARE racist. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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True, but the issue is being forced to hire someone due to quota's...I bet most of the people who work for NASA all have college degrees. Many of them, maybe most are white since it seems more white children go to college than black. Well then in that case there ARE going to be more white engineers at NASA than black engineer's...And You should not have to hire 33% of blacks to be "Fair" Fair is letting the persons abilities get them the job. People yell for people to be "fair" but then want to back AA programs....Thats not Fair. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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So you think quota's are fair? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Would I be treated like any other member? I doubt it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Take "Race" off of the application. Use more quantative measures of performance. If I have two people sitting in front of me. One graduated at the top of his class, and the other just managed to pass....I'm gonna hire the first guy. I should not be made to hire the second for ANY reason. If that means that I have 5 white managers and no blacks...And I can PROVE there were the best canidates...Then shut up about it. You want AA??? How about making it so a short white guy can play in the NBA? Its not fair I'm short. I should get some sort of aid so I can play in the pro's. Maybe make it so every NBA team has to hire at least one short guy per 5 tall players and a guy can't block my shots...Or maybe make my shots worth 6 points. Its not fair that I don't have the opportunity to make the big bucks playing for the Lakers just because I was born short. See its just silly. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Same reasons ALL organizations start. A group of people want to associate with a group of the same type of people to advance a common goal or to participate in enjoyable activities.....The same reason the KKK was formed. Just cause you have an organization does not make it right....even if it is legal. Answer me this... Do you want equal or special treatment? Cause if you want equal, then asking and encouraging special treatment is stupid. You want to be judged just by your own merits? Then don't hide behind race. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
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Sounds like Nepitism....Seperate issue. Hey it goes both ways...But you claim to want equal, then demand special treatment. You claim that white groups are racist, but don't see how black groups are. I am all about EQUAL. Are you? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334