Ron

Moore is a liar. He was very careful not to step into the realm of slander using misdirection to lead the audience down the path he wanted them to take without actually SAYING what he was hinting at. For that reason he could not be sued for liable. He had a team of legal folks making sure he walked the line, but never stepped over it. Rent Farienhype and let us know what you think. Moore was full of shit, and anyone that knew anything about the situations he talked about knew it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Semantics. They wish it therefore the mood IS. They would never try unless they thought they could. Any many things had support till people pushed to hard to fast. Janet Jackson would not have pulled that stunt unless she thought tshe could get away with it... Monday Night Football would not have started like it did this past Monday if they didn't think they could get away with it. These things are WAY left of what it used to be. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

The one that many folks wanted...The liberal spin but on things... Ect. It all leads to a more liberal trend. Which is normal in most societies. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Michigan Suits rock. I have one that has about 1,000 jumps on it, and MANY hours of tunnel. They are bulit proof. My newest one had some problems, but it was a test suit that Mike built and that is to be expected. I flew a Tony suit for years since I personally like Tony (AKA Big Nose). And I have flown Bev suits...The booties on my Michigan sold me, and the construction of it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Anyone else find that sentance funny? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I think the country leans left. Government healthcare is not a conservative position. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

My latest new toy....bought it Saturday. 102" Wingspan, 30 pounds, with a 96cc engine swinging a 26 inch prop. It is fast, loud and expensive. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well if its alright with you, I'll stick to making a noise, and running like hell...With more effort put on running next time. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yes agree 100%. Sorry if it was not perfecty clear. Pull it if you have to and be ready to use it, but don't fire unless you HAVE to. I have gotten out of a few situations by a show of strength without ever having to do anything more than make it clear I was not going to just sit there and be mugged. Don't own one unless you are willing to train with it, and don't carry unless you are willing to use it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Cool let us know. I just am not ready to hang them until I know what happend. Also I don't care how many did, or did not complain. I am glad they looked into it no matter how many complain. Since they had a disclaimer at the begining, and most good parents heard about it before it was on...It does not bother me... What did you and Livendive have a problem with anyway? I am sure neither you nor him have never heard that kind of talk before.... And it seems to me that most times you are for free speach no matter what. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well sorry, sometimes I don't have time to read all the replies after I get a reply....And I don't want to ignore the person who replied to me. Unlike what some people think...I do have a job. Edit: I do wish people would take the time to read the maunals that they get. You can learn tons. I had to learn that a CYPRES does not arm till it goes above 1500 feet by having a buddy bounce and wondering why. Only after he died did we read the maual and fiqure that little gem out. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

They DID violate community standards according to the FCC. Now maybe only a handful of people complained, but the FCC didn't hand out a fine based on 23 people. They DID start an investigation, and that investigation brought the fines...Not just 23 people complaining. If the FCC just handed out fines based on every letter they recieve, then I could see a problem. But the FCC just acted on letters and started an investigation. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Actually its brown....I didn't think I could pull off the black one. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

For them to be found guilty, they had to do something wrong. What does it matter if 1 million, or 1 person complained about it, and they investigate? I mean what is wrong is wrong. The FCC took the complaints, and looked into it...They found something wrong and acted on it. I would think people would be happy to know that even complaints from a few are looked into as opposed to being ignored. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Don't ever pull a weapon unles you plan on using it....Along the same lines, don't carry one unless you are willing to use it. If you are going to have or carry one...Train in its use. Don't be one of those people who buy a gun and never shoot it since they bough it "Just in case". Thats like buying a reserve, but never practicing pulling the handle. If you don't plan on getting familar with it...Don't get one, you can cause more harm than good if you don't know what you are doing. Which is why I laugh at people who carry a chrome 8" 44 mag. If he and I are both involved in a defense shooting... Which looks more Rambo, him with a that hand cannon, or me and and my small Lady Smith .357, or black Glock .40? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No but I did have a nice medium rare steak for dinner...My own little taste of revenge... "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well, I have a friend and he asked me to help him herd cows so he can take them to market. Being the type of guy that is always looking to try new things and help out my friends I told him "Yep". Now if was going to do this...I was going to go all out. So a trip to the western store was in order. A good cowboy hat, pair of boots, shirt and a belt with a big belt buckle was needed. 280.00 bucks later I swaggered out of the store to my friends house where he shaped my new hat. Sunday came and it was off to the stables to get the horses ready (I could have ridden a 4 wheeler, but like I said, do it all out or do nothing). I had not ridden in about 10 years, so after a lot of jokes about finding the clutch we were off. Good thing for me that the horse knows more about this than one would think. The horses really enjoyed it, and there was only one interesting situation where a few head of cattle broke away from the herd and Boe and I had to race like hell to get them. Something very cool about you and a good friend running horses all out, right next to each other to cut off some breakaway cattle. After we got the cattle into the pens...well now comes the fun part. You have to get off your horse and with the help of a stick move the cattle into the sorting chute. You do this by hitting and proding the cows with the sticks and making noise....The cows don't like this much by the way, and they let you know it by trying to kill you. This little cute brown cow was backed into me by a friend and the little shit kicked me in the ankle. Let me tell you....That really hurts. Score so far; Cows 1, Ron 0. After a few moments of pain, it was time to get back into the game. You drive the cattle into the chute, and they run down a very narrow path where a person sitting above them turns a handle that turns a gate sorting the cows into "beef" (going to market) and "straight" going to a holding area and eventually will be released back to pasture. Every once in a while a cow decides that he wants to turn around...Well this 300-400 pound bull decides he wants to go back out of the chute. So I jump in there and wave my stick at him and yell....By the way I did say they sometimes don't like that right? So this little fella charges me. I have to jump up and start climbing the walls of the chute while he tries to gore me....This was going to be fun right? After he sees he will not kill me today and after I break out the bull whip, he decides to move along. Score; Cows 2, Ron 0 Back to the main sorting area. So here I am trying to get these large animals sorted...When like the Red Sea the cattle part. There is an 700-800 pound Bull looking at me...He is not happy. I could tell he was not happy by the way he set his feet on the ground, how he dropped his head...Oh yeah, and by the way he started to run at me like he wanted to kill me. Well I was told there was a way to deal with this kind of situation. 1. Yell at him and act intimidating (yeah, a 155 pound guy with a stick vs a 800 pound Bull....sounds like a great idea). 2. If that does not work, run like hell. I should have skipped to #2. BTW anyone know how fast a pissed off Bull can cover about 12 feet? Answer: Fast! So before I know it I am looking at this rather pissed off Bull, and he is sideways?!?!?!...No wait those trees are also sideways...Damn, trees don't grow that way, so it must be me who is sideways. Oh and bonus, I am about three feet in the air! Here I am sideways, falling, and looking into the face of a rather large pissed off bovine set on tap dancing on my head. I hear my buddy...Is he giving me words of advice? encouragement?...Nope, he is laughing...laughing hard. Good thing for me that some quick thinking person threw a large planet beneath me to stop my fall....I landed hard on my side and now all I had to deal with now is the Bull wanting to do a Fred Astair routine using me as the dance floor. As I scramble to the fence kicking this Bull in the head and poking it with my stick as it tries its best to ram me with its head or step on any part of my body it can get....What do I hear? Yep, laughing. Well I manage to avoid hoof and horn to get to the fence and up it. The Bull is looking at me snorting and stomping the ground. My buddy swears that while I was falling to the ground, he saw me reach in for a reserve pull. His finance said all she saw over the fence was my hat one minute, my feet the next. Score; Cows 3, Ron 0. After it was all said and done, 36 head went to market. So the final score was; Cows 3, Ron 36. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Not really a good question. Anyone that thinks they will may not. Just compare pulling the reserve to someone saying they would shoot. You may THINK you will, and you will SAY you will. But most will not. I'd like to think I would...But I don't know. I do have the benefit of military training and hours of quick reaction drills....So it might be automatic. But you or I will not know till that time comes. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Less than half And more felt Kerry was worse. But you have no proof. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Just like every other law there are things that are allowed in some situations that are not allowed in others. There are states with higher speed laws than others. There are school zones, work areas. With the FCC we have time of day, and content. You can't say "Fuck" on TV. You can say "damn". There are case studies that people can look at, you can ask the FCC if something is allowed. Janet and her boob were clearly out. SPR had been shown before, and the FCC didn't care. If you ask them, they will tell you if you can do it. Pretty simple really. BTW I have been busted for 80 in a 35. I didn't get a ticket. I was taking a very sick person to the hospital. Context is everything. And the FCC will tell you what is allowed. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

My point was I replied to you replying to me, and did not see that someone else had answered it already. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You blame the FCC for enforcing the laws. You don't want to blame the criminals. Your defending this clear truth is whats funny. Anyway feel free to keep bickering. I see any point in dealing with you when you can't keep a straight line. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Let me know when you find it...does not change that you did a 180 one bit however. See I can say the system is broken and needs fixed..However I don't blame them for doing the job that the majority of people asked them to do. You just keep blaming the cop. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No trust me, I would not say you are the leader...I said you are posting it showing him to be a leader. Yes, you are upset about Bush winning, and are going to post anything that supports your position. Let me know when you get it. He made a choice to kill himself...C-ya, I have no pitty for him. Nope, like I have said before that you ignored....I feel sorry for the family...but the person did it to them, not me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Simple..becasue the group as a whole has made that the way things work... Don't like it? Change EVERYONES opinion. Who said they should? But we send our kids to school that is run by the government...The public areas are controled. And the population as a whole has said they don't want smut everywhere. So like I said...don't like it...Change the attitude of the whole population. Easy to do if you have to pay for it...Harder to do if it is on all the time on the radio and on TV. Who said narrow minded puritans? The society as a whole has decided...The majority anyway. Should we let Larry Flint decide what our children learn? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334