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It shows that they care about themselves and their health. Not to mention representing a good example to those who have children. I never said that a particular person would not appeal to me. I was making a comparison. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

You are correct and I did not forget that. I hate the portrait that society puts up as an image. Those women are unhealthy as well. It is unhealthy on both spectrums. Being out of shape can be either way. It has nothing to do with the actual weight but whether or not it is healthy. It is unhealthy to be both over or under weight. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

This is true. That is one other prevention method. Unfortunately as we have all seen in recent times is that there are a bunch of incidents involving two people. It happened to be in '99. Two things saved me on that particular incident. A: I was knocked out by the guy so my body was limp when it hit, B: I was in very good conditioning. Not your overall health but your endurance and ability to take more physical abuse will. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Why I'll have you know I am a pretty decent cook. I enjoy making food.

I highly doubt that. Once again having three jobs does not make you mature. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

I have had much harder hits than this one that broke me. I guess I am getting older and brittle. The True point of the post is about health and prevention of injury. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Why Valerie; I thought you would be more viscous towards this post. I commend you.

Who said anything about being tough? I never said anything about judging someone solely on their looks. It is everyon'es interpretation instead of carefully reading and thinking. Once again who said anything about Bravado. Go an read it again. Possibly you might unserstand it better the second time! . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

I never said all. Maybe you should go back to school and learn how to read. Also working in the sport is much different than just coming out and jumping. A HUGE Difference! I have worked as an instructor in Florida on the worst days. It does take it out of you and you have to be in shape. Since you are a packer though; How many out of shape people toss their rig to you. Obviously a bunch since you sound like a decent packer. Hell, there are probably a bunch that give you a rig to pack and know hardly anything about the rig itself or how to even pack it. Yes it is required to pack your own pack job but there are many who get away w/o doing that as well. Must be a Blip on your radar! You have posted to it twice already. Just by ya'll posting to it I win!

Funny Stuff Lisa.

Righto Arlo!

Not at all there guy. I am talking all around and I see them in person. Chicks who surf are also more realistic towards life in general. These are not women I see in magazines with airbrushing. They are real life. I highly doubt that. It is overall demanding and those who truly surf often are in excellent cardio and toned muscular condition. Of course there is gym time. It has nothing to do with eye candy and everything to do with health. Trust me I understand that to stay in shape is hard work. Just like every other thing in life! Too many people these days want things handed to them. Especially the younger generation. I do not have pictures. Even if I did it might be biased b/c the surfer girls would most likely be wearing less clothing. I am coming from an overall health perspective. If the whole post is read then that would be understood. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

That 13 Y.O. has MOre Guts than most all people I know! If I would have only had someone to bet I knew you would be the first! Wrong! Most Surfer Women wear Board Shorts. So then by that rationale beacause you can hide the imperfections there is no need to take care of yourself? You are just enforcing my point. It does not offend me young lady. Obviously though you take personal offense to this post. Maybe you should look inside yourself. Other military guys live in the bush. It is hard walking through woodlines and deserts. You should try it sometime it is good exercise as well! . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Surfer Women (Chicks) are in much better shape overall then Skydiver Women (Chicks)! If you look at a Surfer they are tight all over. Skydivers are rarely tight all over. I mean why do the Women in Skydiving not take better care of themselves? Especially, when good health and all can assist if you are unfortunate enough to get injured. If you are flexible before an injury the recovery is much faster. Take it from me I know from experience. I guess it is because Skydiving does not require a person to utilize their whole body. Once in the air a person falls without much muscle involvement. Surfing requires a person to be in much better shape mentally & physically. There are no breaks once you are out there with "Mother Nature!" You have to have stamina to withstand the beating that the ocean gives. You cannot just take a day class and go out there in any ole surf conditions. It takes a bunch of pre-conditioning. The force of the Ocean is constantly changing and unpredictable. There are also many other creatures to deal with and share the space. Can you die Surfing? You bet your ASS you can! It is less likely but it also depends upon the Surf you Choose, The Break, and the location. If your lungs are not conditioned or the rest of your body the chances increase that you will die in the water. LifeGuards are all right but they cannot save you from everything. Not to mention all beaches and Surf spots do not have LifeGuards! Another way you can tell is that I have seen so many Women quit Skydiving after a minor injury, or other reasons besides financial or family obligations. Financial and Family are totally acceptable. Major injuries are also acceptable. Most people think I am totally out there because I continue to jump and do other things with the injuries I have had. There are many who look for sympathy instead of instruction. Whining about how you cannot do a particular task or something. You ladies know who you are. I am not saying all. For those who are unsure or have quit already look at this post I put up awhile back: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=852715;search_string=surfing;#852715 Here is a young lady who even at the age of 13 knows what she wants out of life. Some of ya'll still do not know. If you are unsure of what a 6' wave looks like lie on your floor and look at the edge of the wall and ceiling. Slightly bigger but that will give you an idea of what this young lady went out in. Imagine battling that coming at you with one arm! For those of you who are avid swimmers you can relate. The difference in the ocean is that it is constantly moving. There are Women Big-Wave Surfers who are riding 40'+ waves. A reference point is to look at the 4Th to the 6TH floor of a building from the outside. You cannot be slacking on shape to play in this domain! Neither should you be slacking in Skydiving! You are only setting yourself up for failure. There is a commercial I like right now on Television. It shows a woman being walked out to her car for safety, then her locking the car doors while on the road because some guy glanced at her. She gets home, Locks and Bolts the door. Then lights a cigarette and has a huge piece of Chocolate Cake. It then says something about Taking care of your health or saving yourself from you. I am not positive of the exact wordage used. Some might see this as superficial or say, "I should be liked for me, not my size." That is just your justification for being out of shape! Dig Deep and do it for yourself and your own health! What is it going to take? On the flip side not all the guys in Skydiving are in shape either. Although I think more are than the female side of the house. Of course I cannot really confirm that, just an observational thing. Oh and I travel a bit so it is not a locale deal. So how about it ladies? Why do you let yourself get out of shape? Why do you not stay in shape or get in shape? (This of course does not apply to all women. I know a few personally who are dedicated to being in shape.) Don't give me that Age SHIT either! Most of the women I know are older and in damn good shape! . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

I kinda figured that since most people live on here. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

What's the matter? Are you trrying to say that you are old and not able to process alcohol like you used to? Maybe we need to get you into proper drinking shape then? Just admit that you cannot hang! . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Once again not sure if this is a re-post but, here it goes: How about them apples? . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

NO! We talked for all of a few Minutes once at THE FARM! I was busy jumping at the time and you were resting. I am not even sure that there was a goodbye. We will have to see about the Tequilla then Girlie! I have ruined people before! . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

This might be a re-post b/c I am not on here very often. Is that freaky or what? . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

That is a hard one after all the years I have spent in the military. There may be no description for what I have put in my mouth. Not to mention all of the drunk moments. I am just not able to pinpoint it. I have definitely eaten things that most would not. Put things in my mouth temporarily that most would not. I figure since the Government is always pumping my body full of crap diseases that I have built an immunity to most things. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Are you SURE? You may have forgotten! when I was little I lived three blocks from "Amityville" My Mother would not let me ride my tricycle down that street. OUr dog used to bark at empty chairs. One night My Mother awoke to find the light on and me laughing. She had put me to bed hours before. I had a freaky experience once where it felt like someone was holding me down and I could not breath. It was a real trip. I was freaked out for awhile over that one. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

You mean real life one's? Too Bad I will not be there this weekend! I am going to try to make in Sept. Though. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

You Naughty Girlie!

Hey Vinny! I believe that you and I need to be the Connoisseur's of Tequilla for Florida and future Boogies. We just need to get you from working so much for the Gov't! . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

You probably do not have Quicktime loaded on your comp. . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES