Genn

Thanks Mike....I'm going to give that a try. I have DJD and OA in my knee. It has caused a "crater" so now there is structural damage. Doctors say I'm too young for a knee replacement so I have minor surgery once a year (past 4 years) to flush out the loosebodies. Somebody mentioned the hinged braces, so I checked them out...(ouch-very expensive). However, I did see many velcro braces. I'll try one on in the store, like yours, and see how it feels. I'd rather not limit my range of motion if I don't have to. ..and thanks for the tip on the jeans....I usually jump in them. ....and ouch on that ankle , sorry to hear that. Genn Edit: Forgot Stuff

Good judgement also seems to be out of the question for you. Not trying to be rude, but it seems fairly obvious.Quote Who the hell are you to tell me I don't have good judgment? and news flash buddy....YOU ARE BEING RUDE. What about:Not jumping is out of the question, so dont bother. do you not understand? Here's a little history for your yuppy ass....I have 2 legs, 2 arms, and all the rest that comes with it. There are many people in this sport that have made great achievements with a hell of a lot less than that. So who are you to tell me no. Perhaps you should go into the "Skydivers With Disabilities" forum and tell them "Good judgment also seems to be out of the question" for them too! ANOTHER NEWS FLASH: I jumped with many a CRW Dogs and many wear knee braces. It is my good judgment to ask what kinds they wear to help the situation and provide some extra stablitiy. Next time I'll be more specific in the heading of my post....Experienced only....Students please dont apply. So out of curiosity....Are you one of "those" that wont jump on windy days, waits for that perfect no wind day....Cause if you do....People can say your judgment sucks ass too!

I also jump with people that have no choice but to land on their ass, and I'm now becoming one of them. However, I've been looking into knee braces...the hinged ones, and there are so many varieties. I'm basically looking for a recommendations on a specific braces to narrow down my research. Thanks for your reply...Ciao!

Hi all...I have an old knee injury acting up and weight makes it swell. Not jumping is out of the question, so dont bother. Anybody have experience with a similar injury. Do you use a special brace, ace bandage, or should I just go buy ten rolls of duct tape and wrap the chit outta the biatch?

Thanks for the laugh Kevin. BTW....glad you're ok!

Agreed. There was an unfortunate incident at our DZ where somebody cutaway too low from line twists..That person lost altitude awareness. Exactly what I'm trying to say.

Was the main canopy packed wet?

ok fine....and my answer was No. I would do it on any canopy.

hmmm....Rental or not..your canopy or a friends..whatever....ALTITUDE PERMITTING (which she had)...you wouldnt try to fix the situation if it was possible? I would on any canopy. If its an obvious chop...cya....but a knot (right there)with altitude permitting....I'd try until it's time to say CYA....or until I felt that it was a useless cause. Either way you will pay...rental, your friend's gear, demo, and your own...plus freebag and repack...The fact that she recognized the problem, had time to fix it, did her job....shows competence.

QuoteIf you are thinking about the cost of chopping while jumping out of airplanes then you sure as ^@%^$@ shouldn't be jumping. Last thing that EVER should be on yor mind is how much this is going to cost if I cut it away. As Ron said you rented it it is YOURS until you had it back. If I ever start to think about trying to save money rather then saving my (_*_) during a malfunction that will be the day I give this up... Quote I couldn't disagree with you more. She showed complete awareness, including her altitude....and most of all, she did not panic. I've been in a few high stress situations (doing CRW) where u can kill yourself as well as your friends if you panic. Job well done. IMO, you did fantastic. and to the others that put you down......trust yourself, you obviously have what it takes!

Question here.....Don't you think a 9 cell with 180 degree toggle input at 50 ft makes it a vertical descent (dive) as well?

The Trees...if that's not an option.....the crowd!

In an ideal world...somebody follows the gear..somebody lands with the jumper...and somebody else makes it to the airport to get the car and pick the others up.

1. Whats your name? Genn 2. How old are you? 25 3. Why did you decide to start jumping out of airplanes? Always wanted to 4. Are you single or taken? Taken 5. Do you have kids? Hell NO! 6. What do you drive? 2002 Subaru Outback 7. Have you ever done a kisspass? Yes 8. Where do you live? NY and NJ 9. Do you have any pets? Depends...does your SO or computer count? 10. How many jumps do you have? Not really sure...but never enough. 11. What color eyes do you have? Dark Brown 12. What is your nationality? Italian 13. Have you ever dated someone you met off the internet? No 14. Favorite Movie? I have no idea 15. What do you do when you arent skydiving? GAMBLE- Poker, Poker and more Poker..Sometimes Black Jack. 16. Have you ever BASE jumped? No 17. If not... do you want to? Maybe 18. Do you have siblings? Yep...All my sky brothers and sisters! 19. Where do you want to travel to the most? CRW Boogies 20. What's your favorite color? Blue n Black 21. Where was the last place you flew to ( not skydiving )? I have no idea...but Vegas here I come in April...but I plan to jump out there too...so still no idea.

Every soldier goes into a bloody battle! (Don't forget the towel!)

Hi Mike, Look...I responded to his letter because you asked people of all experience levels to give their input. I wasn't under the impression that you would be responding/defending/explaining (whatever) Scott Miller wrote. If anything, I expected it from the horse's mouth. I also think it is cowardly to let you take the heat for what he said. My original response was not directed at you in any way. Unfortunately, I'm responding to you now, given your stance.

Mike, No no no no no..... Maybe you should have posted all the responses from the CRW Dog list too. I'm not the only one with this point of view, and you know it. In case I wasn't clear enough the first time, I do NOT agree nor support what he claims. And when you want to quote me like that...Please add his comment I responded too. This way there is no confusion and/or manipulation of my post. Furthermore, I could give a shit about politics and lose respect for all the brown nosers that are afraid to write what they really think. And...Since I feel like I'm speaking to his PR person...I don't really give a crap about this anymore. I wasn't one of her instructors and she never took an extra safety course from me...Anyhow...I hope she heals and learns from this mishap.

Hi Mike...it's Genn...You want thoughts, well here goes. I read what you posted by Scott Miller and quite frankly..I'm insulted! It was so generalized and it pissed me off. Here's why, (in order of the rant): The PS126 used in Florida was a demo that she requested from you (PD). On her second trip to Florida, she was given another PS126 with no questions asked. If you had all this information on record, why was it missed TWICE! If it was such a problem, why wasn't her request denied? You're going to have to ask her and PD( since you had the records) about that. It is common knowledge that low timers shouldn't put THEMSELVES under a high wingloading. We as skydivers have a responsibility to know our own individual limits. I jumped with ***** on her first trip to Florida. Just watching her landings hurt. I, and others tried to talk to her about this and give her tips on landing that canopy. Her response was: "I could land it if I want to."- After that, I was done. I'm not a canopy cop, nor due I pursue such moronic responses. I'm assuming this isn't gender related...but if it is, my response still applies since I'm female myself. I jump at the same DZ as *****. I learned to do CRW there as well. However, I had excellent training (Thanks Jon, Alan, Vinny, and Scooter) and was NOT pressured one bit to downsize. I started on a PS143 and not one person wanted me to "jump some ridiculously small canopy that she really has no business jumping, just so she will be at the “right” wing loading for CRW". I was floaty and everyone made due. ummmm....Never even crossed my mind! Oh please! Placing blame on CRW dogs is asinine. Like I said before, my mentors did NOT have their heads up their asses. In fact, when I was ready for my PS126 (the average wingloading)...The only one who told me to order that canopy was MYSELF. To turn people away from CRW because you feel "a little guilty" just isn't fair to the CRW discipline. Especially when PD had her records and could have prevented this from the get go. Also, IMO CRW Dogs are some of the best canopy pilots in the world. All of a sudden, because ***** experienced pilot error on approach, CRW Dogs take the fall about wingloadings. I find it interesting you even have the time to write this letter to Mike. The fact is....The majority of low-turns or high wingloading incidents are freefallers. Where are all the personal letters to them that you wrote and requested to be posted publicly by somebody else? There should be a countless number of them. If your comment I quoted holds true, shouldn't you be telling the low-timers to stay as far away from freefall and swooping as possible? After all, they are taking up most of the incident reports. I can't tell you how many pictures I've seen in Parachutist showing Velocity CRW. Enticing high performance canopy pilots to try Velocity CRW with little or no training at all. I don't see PD taking responsibility in debriefing these people under high performance CRW. Hence, the two in Texas that entangled so tight they couldnt get them apart on the ground. Just because somebody has thousands of jumps does not mean you can just do CRW. It's a completely different discipline and no matter what, people need to be trained on safety procedures. I've noticed in the past years more high performance CRW on the DZs and none of these people have come to the local CRW Dogs to ask about safety procedures, breakdowns, etc. They see PD's pics and think it's cool. Do the CRW Dogs get blamed for these types too? Again, it is common knowledge now that this is a basic approach issue and this had little to do with wingloading. There was no landing pattern and the alternate out was ignored. However, I can't seem to forget that she paid you to teach her these basic canopy flight rules. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to put all the blame on one specific event. Her mishap had so many variables. ie; training, doing CRW under the recommended altitude, the pilot losing heading, her decision to demo a smaller canopy, etc etc etc! Finally, to sum up my rant....Why isn't more emphasis put on PD if it is such a freaking problem? After all, the demo came from them. Also, if you people want to "control" what people decide to fly...try starting with the people of authority..ie; Manufactures and Dealers. There are only so much fun jumpers can say to a person. In the end, it is THEIR decision.

Daymmm Alan has a good elbow! Good to see Mike can sill drink beer and smoke cigars! Have a speedy recovery Mike! BSBD, Genn

I hope it's your real pic! How YOU doin'?

Flat turns/Brake turns can be made in 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, of full brakes. Open up high and check out all your canopy has to offer...

This thread is still going!!!! SadSue....you are right...and as always...I love your new avatar!

Definitely....and there are many more. We call it the '5-year plan'....Year after year you look around and know less and less people and more cheap gear!!!lol

You have such a beautiful family

It depends on what I feel like pulling at. I definitely enjoy as much air as possible though. Then again, I'll also launch a 4-way exit from a 2000' pass.