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lol Yea but not the meter I was talking about.

Yea but they aren't gonna take your rig on a normal jump, they only do that on NPS land kinda deal right? Coco Edited to add: One of my sources said if I get popped on an B or A jump its just gonna be trespassing.

Is it just me or shouldn't you know the exact location of the object you are jumping? I know the exact address of the service road for a tower I jump. And my dad has it when he phone ground crews for me. It pretty pathetic listening to John try to explain where he is. “Eastbound on the western side of the oak nut crack whore lane exit”!!! Yea it sux to have that happen and I don't wish that on anyone but don't do the f**kin interviews and s**t. That’s what pissed me off when I heard, not that fact that he had a jump go wrong. Dude that is so f***ed up!!!!!! Anyone know what the conditions were? Did he pull a team Burton “we are sponsored attitude” and just it bad conditions? Coco P.S to Skin - - - - - NICE!!!

Found a really good looking Wind Meter if anyone else was interested. Wasn't really advertised on any other website and then I found it on www.ambientweather.com. It’s got the best of everything and nothing you don’t need. All the wind speed necessities, MPH reading, altitude, and a backlight for seeing at night. Its not to expensive either. http://www.ambientweather.com/ke25nivipowe.html

I do both, but I've been broke lately so just base at the moment. (its winter too so that helps with not being able to jump. Weekends aren’t nice and warm at the moment) I'm also saving for a PF phantom. I'd like to get into WS base in the next few year but I need adequate experience in both Base and WS flying first.

Oh ok yea I've already seen that, I though it was a purchased video like 2nd base or something. Thanks Great video BTW!

where can we get it?

Thats pretty freakin nasty!!

Damn straight!! I want to jump swiss valley in the future so ya'll need to clean up your shit! Don't ruin it for the rest of us!!! Edited to add: And the locals!

I have it on good authority that the T-stake does work as a wind gauge of sorts--Basically, hold it up to the wind, and if the bottle opener whistles, don't jump. Is it that simple! Awesome I gotta get me one of those! Heck yea! I'm 4 for 7 On the A i climbed the other day. CLimbing is great exersice. I don't mind climbing down.

I'd do that regardless of having a wind meter. Thats how I assess direction.

am I the only one that thinks this statement is somewhat wrong? I think he's saying that it gives him the ability to quantify the winds he is uncomfortable with. That means that in the future, he'll be better able to discuss those winds with other jumpers, and to check weather reports to know if it's even worthwhile to head out to the object. Yea that’s what I'm getting at. I'm not going to go up and just a use a tool say cool I’m jumping if they are under a certain level. I’m gonna use my brain too. An example of this is on Nov 1st,last time I climbed. I got up to 250 and the winds felt like they were blowing harder than I have previously been jumping and with the wind direction about 25-30 degrees off center I wasn’t really sure what I wanted to do. I’m not that good at determine xmph winds so after using my brain to decide whether I was fine right off the bat or whether I’d like some other sources of input, I could use a wind meter to get the exact wind. If I’m just off and the winds are normal to what I have been jumping then I can use that and my previous feelings to make a decision. Then if I am still feeling negative about the jump regardless of whether the winds are normal or heavier I can know for the future that at Xmph and X degrees I wasn’t comfortable. As my experience gets better that may change but its nice to have a reference for what I jump in and what I don’t. Different conditions are gonna change my decisions too. If the winds are high and going right down the middle, I’d be fine for a jump, but not crazy high and a good deal off center. Am I explaining this right? Pretty much after I make a decision on my comfort level with conditions using my head, I can use tools to log the exact wind speeds just to have a reference to the types of conditions I normal feel comfortable with. Winds and direction combined. Plus when I use VGC I can call a buddy and talk it over with him too. And actually did that too the last time I climbed. I called my buddy and had him check the conditions again on the net to see if there was a sudden change or if reports were just different. If I had exact wind speed, (he’s not there to feel it), he can give me his feelings also. As for the laser, Nick, that’s awesome that you can do that but I personally don’t think I’d be able to make accurate height determinations in that manner with my current experience level. Now here again….If I do as you say and try to make a picture, take a guess at the height, then on top of the object I can laser it and see how close my estimates are. This can train me at making better determination without the laser I think tools like wind meters and laser can be very useful if used in the right way. I think both the human and electronic factors and benefit each other!

Thats pretty sweet! Todd is THE MAN!

I've got the video camera, it just doesn't work well at night. And day blazes at one of our towers is a terrible idea!!!

Oh shit! Dude I almost forgot that! I probably need to get one of those first ey? Or maybe I'll use my javelin with a a 9 cell sabre!?

Exactly. I have 3 A jumps at the moment and I have no idea what the winds have "exactly" been. But they were definitally stronger last night than they have ever been. Knowing the exact speed will help me determine what types of winds I am comfortable with. Its also not just openning winds, it standing on the railing. I'd feel alot more comfortable if i'm not fighting heavy winds while I'm climbing up on the rail. Would hate to go off unstable as a mo fo!

No its more like, Ground winds said 5mph at 200 degrees and the middle of the sector is 180 I get up to 250 feet (where i'll be openning) andthe wind seam pretty strong. Would have been nice to know exact wind speed to make a smart decisions whether or not it is safe to jump. I'm not a human wind speed indicator so my guestimate probably won't be acurate. I can also measure to see if the wind is getting strong or weak and decide to wait a little while before i climb down. Laser is to scout out new sites and to also determine high for an acurate delay. Be pretty dumb to think something is a certain height and jump it in the dark and not open in time. You use all of your senses along with tools to make the decision.

I'm probably just gonna get the wind finder first i already know the height of the object we jump normally

Yea but I'm a poor biatch! At least until I get into a fire department!

http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=2148 That was you le roy!?

I agree! I'll say it again Slim's video! I'm going for risers!

Only problem with that is I ahve to be on the object. It would be nice to have a laser to sue both on and off an object for heights. But thanks!

Nice, Very nice!

Well the time has come that I am going to have to invest in some BASE tools. I was on an A tonight and the winds were heavier than normal. Heavier than I have jumped before. It was also about 30-40 degree’s off the center. I decided to climb down because of the two factors. I then decided that I need to have a wind indicator because I’m not good a determining wind speed. Even with heavy winds and acceptable direction it would still be ncie to know my speeds! Found this one: http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=63178&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults Thoughts? Too cheap? Will to work well? I’m also going to have to get a laser distance finder for future scouting. They are pretty expensive so I was hoping to find what others are using and which are having good results. I would like the low light LED also so that makes it expensive. The only one I have seen with LL LED is this: http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=64939&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults What are other using?? Thanks Coco

Yea, I totally saw that but was not about to say anything.