rhys

you don't have to be a scientist to see that desertification and the dessemation of huge areasof virgin forest(most of what was there only hundreds of years ago), is the direct result of human activity. These sort of things do add to climate change but maybe not on the scale that we have been led to believe. some organisations claim milions of dollars for research etc. and i guess this is what the argument is about. but the fact remains... .. we don't need to change the climate to destroy the lifeforms that have taken 1000,000's of years to develop (or 7 days in the hands of god abut 10,000 years ago if you are that way inclined) people are fucking the planet there is no argument against that. wheather the effects are enough to change the climate well.... who knows? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Climate change and Human Impact on the envirionment are two separate issues. Thie climate is constantly changing, and has done so for 1000,000's of years. we are fucking the place over in in a matter of hundreds of years! make a forcast calculater on those stats! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I would like to add: If all the religons put together would change the emphasis from respecting the creator to respecting what has been created then there would not be a problem. This world is being fucked by Christians, athiests, hindus, buddists.... absolutely everyone. This earth our moon and our sun is what needs to be worshipped. and I think all will agree that without these things life would not exist as we know it. and is therefore the substance and creator of life itself. How does praying at night for your and others sins, stop the problem that the un nessecary packaging and toxins that you have just disposed of go away? IT DOESN"T live life, love life and respect life. IN ALL FORMS not just the Human form. In conclusuion. Yes religion is the problem. regardless of the faith. humans are a mare stich in time and life will be much more abundant once humans are gone. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

It is mainly (99%) tandems, I used to work there for a while, until the owner decided to keep 2 months of pay and not pay it to me. I still have to take him to court over it! It is a beautiful place and they have a 185 there i think. getting on loads really depends on who is running the place now. NZSYDIVE has a high staff turnover especially in the management because the owner is such a greedy asshole. they also have dropzones in Auckland, Mt. Cook, Glenorchy and Te Anau. Having said all that the owner 'is' an greedy asshole but the company have always been receptive to sport skydiving unlike other tandem operations in new zealand. take your rig and you'll get on a load or two.

>Where's all the YES folk? Hiding behind their vote? I'm a yes person. The leader of New Zealand is a wonderful woman (though butt ugly) Helen Clark has really Kept our country moving and Is not a cock sucker like other Prime ministers (eg, tony blair, and the aussie guy whats his name again?) She is well educated, well spoken and actually makes her own decisions (unlike some puppets we know of) Her stand on the war on terror was amazing and she stood firm with her beliefs that were proved to be correct. our countries stand on war is a peace keeping one. the majority of our military funds go to peace keeping efforts. She has climbed NZ's highest mountain (Aoraki, 12000' and a technical climb) and is not afraid to be amoungst the people. She gets my complete respect! I also have to mention that I also totally respect a former leader of our country his name is David Lange. His govornment made New Zealand a nuclear free country. You can just imagine the pressures he had in world summits etc. to let nuclear powered ships and subs into our ports. He basicly told the rest of the world to 'Fuck off' with thier nuclear bullshit and stay the fuck away from our paradise with the time bombs! He da man! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

100,000,000 is nowhere near the the amount killed in that space of time. the tiny country of Rwanda lost over 800,000 in a couple of months and yes the was only about a decade ago. did you hear about it?.....not much. war and disease are not the only ways of keeping population down. Education is a good start and is a much better invesment than war or space exploration! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>Never heard of Daedalus yet. You will, I have a Daedalus JVX84hybrid. by far the most advanced canopy on the market! my next canopy will be a non crossbraced Daedalus GLSxf. for ground launching and big ways/heavy traffic. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>Given the resources that have been spent on the military would be producing results now.....if we as a species are going to survive... we had best start learning to live with one another.. and since we have trouble doing that........to move outwards...develop the technology needed to do it. That reduces the pressures on the species on this planet... that HAVE NOT been addressed.. overpopulation... starvation....incessant wars.... and diseases that WILL evolve and do a smackdown on us. I really cannot believe you think that is actually an option! You are obviously a Trekky? terraforming and so on is a nice concept, but we sould learn how to keep an existing inhabitable planet inahbitable before looking elswhere. the answer lies here on planet earth there sweetie. not on the planet next door. you must watch far too much television? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>On a planet with dwindling resources.... I would think that "selling" a space program that WILL eventually return VAST profits to us as a species.. PLUS making us EXTINCTION proof is a starting point. Imagine how much a chunk of asteroid 5 miles across that is pretty much PURE Nickel Iron might be worth. You are Joking Right? This planet is more than capable of sustaining all it's life forms if we would only repect it as much as we seem to respect these supposed creators of all! religon = problem To think that we could or should inhabit another planet is a sure sign of laziness and the lack of desire to change our living habits for the benifit of future (and present) life forms. We are fucking the place at an alarming rate. The main reason is $$$. if it were cheaper to use corn instead of polystyrene (or styrofoam for you yanks), paper instead of plastic, hemp/flax seed oils and fibres instead of fossil fuels(ether instead of petrolium) etc. etc. this would reduce the dessemation. The companies are the ones that need to be convinced (or most probably forced through taxes etc.) to make change here. Not fucking Likely! so education of the consumers is what is also needed. then we wouldn't have to flee. This planet is in the best and only place for life from this planet. Spend money on education to reduce population growth where needed and keep a good thing going. Giving up for ease is pretty disrespectful! Besides, Mars is too cold, venus is too hot and the moon is inhabited by whack jobs that took too much acid! (i do like old school floyd very much though) "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>Not talking about the passport, I was refering to being fingerprinted and photographed and having your records placed on the FBI computer... and no we won't do that if you come to the UK. That is some dumb ass shit that makes the running cost of the country so much more. how is it detering anything? if someone doesn't have a previous record then they are clean! how hard is it for a terrorist organisation to find a clean person? not hard! I travelled by plane all around europe and only had to show my passport to board a plane. No stamps no hassles. except for just after the Heathrow liquid explosives debarcle. What a crock of shit all that was. When I flew to germany I could carry my rig on the plane no worries but when I returned (it all happened during the world meet) they wouldn't let me carry it on board and made a huge thing about it. Rather than dealing with it peacfully, they made me feel like a terrorist. After that was settled and our rigs were with our luggage we proceeded through customs and the woman behind me had 5, 1.5 litre bottles of drink. 2 were orange coloured and 3 were clear. the customs officer opened an orange one, smelled it and let her through!?!?!?!? Fucking fuck, fuck, cunt, asshole. I thought to myself! Where is the sense behind that? a week ago somebody presumably tried to blow up a plane with liquid explosives disguised as drink and then all that? the US are creating their own paranoia and should stop poking other countries in the shoulder instead of deterring Tourism. That would be better for the country and it's economy. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>I would love to see your footage you should put it on skydivingmovies.com. We were too busy having fun to get footage last week. This week we are going to head up there on saturday arvo and spend the night for a full day on sunday. I will get as much footage as i can and make a nice wee vid on Imovie. then post it on skydiving movies. I've never done that before but how hard could it be? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Will see you at JSC in april. Can't wait to see the pond! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

well you want a paraglider then! anything between paragliding and skydiving would have too steep of a trim to stay aloft for periods of time. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>give me an example.. utilising the definition: 6. any extraordinary or mystical influence, charm, power, etc.: the magic in a great name; the magic of music; the magic of spring. The magic of spring, everything combined utilising the warmth of a new season for growth and reproduction. That is Magic Existance in the first place that is magic the feeling i get during and immediately after swooping down a hill.... Magic. I depends how you define magic. i'm not talking about finding a lost card in a deck or walking through the great wall of china (fuck that was cheesy) Would you consider telepathy to be a part of this? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

That is very interesting. Like i said earlier. some things cannot be explained properly by experiement. i didn't vote in the pol because i believe psychics are a problem or solution. they are simply there and you choose wheathr you want to belive or not. Things that are not understood are often described as magic. Ther is plenty of Magic in this world! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>If you can show me ANY credible evidence to the contrary, actual evidence, capable of being duplicated by experimentation, then I'll retract everything and pay your favorite charity $1000. BTW, I've made this bet numerous times with a wide variety of people over the years and so far I haven't lost a dime. Probably because all the people you made the bet with thought to themselves: "what a stiff". And couldn't be bothered discussing it any further! Your statement I was commenting on was: >"Sigh. Sorry to tell you this, but "magic" doesn't exist in this world. " You didn't define magic in its complete definition. Some things we will never be able to 'Conclude' properly with an experiment. This is where sciences weakness is! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>As a newbie skydiver I would suggest concentrating on the right size and type SKYDIVING canopy when skydiving, and Paragliding canopy when paragliding. Get the appropriate instruction for each. When you good with both see if a hybrid is available. C'mon Man this guy knows what he wants. he wants to go ground launching and yes there will be many new canopies for this in time. Ground launching can be safe and compliment skydiving with a better understanding of a parachutes responses. Maybe you should give it a go? Paragliding and skydiving are very different to groundlaunching/speed flying. Don't try to put someone off something they want to do. Guide them in the right direction of where they want to go, safely. I suggest reading the ground launch forum on canopypiloting.com as well as any speed flying sites you can find. There is much to learn before you decide what canopy you want. It is important to know there is a safe progression to what you want don't learn the Hard way. any new technology announced at the pia syposium will most likely not be released for some time. Have fun and be safe "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

So does that mean the you have 'Concluded' that we know all the capabilities of the human brain r should i say the human mind? and there is no more to learn? maybe the title of the thread should be called science problem/solution that was a pretty narrow minded comment. Define Magic? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/magic I like this one 6. any extraordinary or mystical influence, charm, power, etc.: the magic in a great name; the magic of music; the magic of spring. The Magic that makes everything grow and exist is usually mis represented by various religons. existance itself is Magic. Religon (as we know it) is the scam "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

There is also a new one on the NZaerosports website. http://www.nzaerosports.com/canopydesigner.htm "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

>Global Half time. Or is the end of the first period. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I am not a religous man but I am open to things we do not understand. Some of the psychic stuff is bullshit(just jumping on a bandwagon) but some has some grounds that prompt a deeper understanding of the subject. the Human brain is something that is not completely understood and we only use a small portion of it! other things such a telepathy are also used conciously and subconciously. Ever been thinking of someone just before they phoned or pulled into the driveway? aborigionals use telepathy while hunting! and psychics? my friend was with his girlfriend when she visited a psychic. Reluctantly he let her look at him! The psycic described me as a good friend and said we would not be friends much longer and I would find a girlfriend and marry her. I laughed at the thought at the time(young dumb and full of cum) but only a couple of months later that particular friend (?) decided to dishonour our trust and we no longer talk to each other. I am also engaged to be married to my partner. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

So the war against the commies was lost then? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Always ask before trying! land owners are much more receptive to respectful people. I have seen a wonderful site (paragliding) closed down because of lack of respect. Now i wish o could GL there but cannot. the spot was featured on Gravity pilots! If you see a site that you want to try. it couldn't be too hard to find the owner. you might find you are welcome to a cuppa when you go launching? it depends on you personality and thier personality. but all the people that I have asked have let me go for it! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Feed back! I couldn't get leighs little ixus camera to take a good photo, turns out it was on macro! so sorry about the lack of photogrpahic evidence! I have video but too big to attach. I ended up using the JVX as it worked great! I was having trouble kiting it at first because of the steep trim, It kept surging forward and frontal collapsing. but with a little input on the rear risers it was kiting smooth. When I took off I was amazed at the lift created by the small 84' canopy. I used to pull the front risers at the very beginning of my flight with the crossfire to get the penetration for the take off. but the Jvx just wants to be there! The flight was amazing. I instantly got the lift needed to surge into full drive and had plenty of range so I could start carving the slope. there must have been between 8-15 knots not gusty but not consistant. The wind is convective i'm pretty sure because on the other side of the hill (a few k's away) the wind was blowing the other way. The base of the hill is at 5000' asl and the top about 6000' a good flight with a 20 min hike! I only did 4 launches because I was helping Leigh. she had 3 flights from halfway up the hill. Next week we will do 6. good fitness! This is a fast canopy I can't wait to jump it, that will be in 2 months though so I will be GL'ing it every week until then. We didn't get many photos as we were to busy having fun. But next sunday we will bring the good cameras and camera helmets etc. and get some awesome footage. Cheers, Rhys "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Hi scotty, Oh the pack volume. It packs like a 129 or something. If you look at kras' vector 3(same as mine) an 84 hybrid (top skin only) will fill that snug! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix