olemisscub
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I'll have to ask him if he got the schedule during his first attempt. He went to St. Louis the first time and was spotted in the airport by a Navy buddy, so he had to come back a month later during the next new moon.
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He was living in Detroit, so definitely not.
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McNally is a hell of a resource. Funny too.
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Correct. He could have presumably picked up that schedule from any airport with an NWA station in it. I need to ask Mac how he knew that his flight was going to be a 727.
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Sounds familiar perhaps. From July 72 Cooper Copycat attempt. "Nothing funny or I'll do the job"...."No fuss"
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On the website they look like items you could pick up at the airport, like little pamphlets.
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NWA has all of their old timetables online. Unfortunately, none from 1971. That one is from 1970. However, there is no reason to think that it would be any different in 71 since the ones from 70 and 72 look the same. https://northwestairlineshistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NW-schedule-1970-07-01.pdf https://northwestairlineshistory.org/timetables-northwest/
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These pilots actually left their stews by going out the cockpit window in a 1972 Cooper Copycat hijacking leaving their stews with two men carrying shotguns. Real chivalrous, fellas.
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Definitely wasn't the moon. I'm not sure why I had never checked before, but Nov 24 was a 1st quarter (half) moon. If he had gone a week earlier he'd have had a new moon and it would have been pitch dark. This is why McNally hijacked his plane when he did. He was going by the phases of the moon. His first attempt was a month earlier but he was spotted by an old Navy buddy in the St. Louis airport (what are the odds?). So he abandoned that attempt and waited an entire month to try it again.
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Copycat Melvin Fisher. Some familiar elements here with Cooper. He got further than any other copycat who didn't jump. He actually got the stairs down but couldn't locate a familiar landmark, chickened out, then turned himself in. I don't know of any other non-jumping copycats who actually put a chute on and had the stairs down. My research on Fisher indicated that he was at one point an aviation cadet, but ended up as a B-24 mechanic during the war.
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For anyone wanting to mess around with the flight path without the FBI's connect the dots marking, I removed the pencil mark.
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I checked the database for all the 302's that mention Maryland and there is nothing relating to anyone on the run in 71.
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Hi Randy, I've come across Ellis before on NAMUS and he certainly has a dang good looking face for Cooper, but unfortunately his profile says he was only 5'6. Cooper was 5'10 to 6' tall, with one stewardess estimating him as tall as 6'1. Height exaggeration is a very real thing among eyewitnesses, but to think someone 5'6 was described as 6' is a bit of a bridge too far.
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Good of them to throw in free shipping
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They caught him in the middle of relating his story about standing outside the bathroom telling his thanksgiving joke to Tina and Cooper. So he was “standing” the equivalent of a row behind Cooper. https://patch.com/california/livermore/livermore-man-recaps-encounter-with-db-cooper “Almstad would later get up to use the men's restroom. The lavatory was occupied and there was a man and stewardess sitting nearby," Almstad said. "I said, 'Well if we stay long enough we can have Thanksgiving dinner up here.' " The man, who he believes was D.B. Cooper, turned back and smiled at him.“
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This interview with passenger William J. Murphy is just great. FullSizeRender.MOV
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For the record, I’m not saying he WAS a greedy thief/common criminal type, just saying it may have just been something clever to say. But FlyJack is right, most greedy thieves have grudges against the world for being the losers that they are, etc. I’ve been intensively studying all the 16 Copycat attempts recently (hoping to write a book on them) and most of them are just total headcases. The only one who was mostly chill was Hahneman. The others were all pretty manic. There was definitely something unique about Cooper.
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I believe it's very possible the grudge line meant nothing, it was just something cool to say. "No Miss, I don't have a grudge against your airline, I'm just a greedy thief" doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Richard Simmons describing the moment when Alice found out what was happening. FullSizeRender.MOV
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I'd add that the final guy behind Mr. Cummings is either another FBI/NWO guy or perhaps the bus driver. I've been trying like hell to find an image of Elwood "Al" Lee, but have been unsuccessful. Was curious to see if he was one of the men in the front. Probably unlikely that he'd be part of herding the passengers around, but you never know. "The Cowboy" it appears, was Robert Cummings. It wouldn't have been Daniel Rice since he had a first class ticket and would have been hassling Alice, not Tina. So it must have been Cummings.
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Well this took quite a while. But I found color footage of all the passengers coming off the bus into the airport. Turns out that the first four people in that clip are FBI/NWO officials. Anyways, this was difficult to do but I was able to match up who was who by looking up military records for heights, stalking Facebooks, using newspaper photos, yearbook photos, etc. But this is all of them. They are listed in the order that they enter the terminal in the video. I'm also including the full color video. Flight305Passengers.mp4
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Neat image of Cooper Copycat Francis Goodell's money bag. Looks to be roughly the same dimension as the package described by Milnes: 1 foot x 1 foot x 8 inches. While not exact it's a decent analog for Cooper's money bag.
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It's literally one of these 4 things: 1) Money packets had paper bands on them (and likely rubber bands) 2) 22 year old Tina Mucklow called rubber bands "bank type bands" 3) FBI agent dictating Tina's Reno interview thinks that rubber bands are "bank type bands" and so despite Tina saying "rubber bands" he says "bank type bands." 4) FBI agent intentionally distorts what Tina said.
