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Are you malfunctioning? I said I'm not being argumentative but I've yet to come across that i.e. I'd be interested in seeing that. Why must everything be interpreted by you as hostile? My tone was inquisitive.

Not being argumentative, but I've yet to come across any EAL 175 witness claiming their hijacker was over 5'10.

Spreckel's revised Comp A that he drew is in this vault. I believe it was in a much earlier vault but was hardly visible. Would be nice to have a higher quality. It appears that mostly what he did is what he said to do: widen the face by a bit. Interesting that he kept the lower face as is and didn't widen it as well.

Strong possibility he had an underbite. Springsteen has one and his lips look a lot like the sketch lips.

I don't think Donald Sylvester Murphy's lower lip was as thin as it may appear in that photo. His yearbook photos show something happening with his lower lip.

New Vault is out. Each one is more worthless than the previous one. It appears they are solidly into the suspect files now. So just mostly garbage at this point for the foreseeable future. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-80/view Unless I've missed this in a previous vault, this guide will be handy.

I'm not doing anything to the sketches except shoving them through an enhancement app. I can't make the lips bigger or smaller on that. I do have enough integrity to not disseminate something to the wider public that I've intentionally manipulated for some dodgy motive. On my website you can click on the enhanced sketch to take you to the original. I've always made it very clear that they are AI enhancements, so there is the possibility for error in that it is distorting the original sketch somewhat. norjak.org/sketches Worst thing I ever did was to get involved with a suspect. As soon as you do everyone assumes that everything you say is a "push". Aside from the recent YouTube video I did with Beeson, which was specifically about Vordahl, I've recorded probably 8 hours of video and audio in the past few months about Cooper without even mentioning Vordahl. I try to avoid it as much as possible because I don't want to be viewed as a suspect pusher. The overall case is way more interesting to me than that crap. I honestly don't even care about him anymore. If you want to throw your hat into the titanium/metallurgy arena, he's the best we have now. He's about a million times better than Vincent Petersen IMO. If you want to follow Gunther, which I do keep an open mind to, I think you've demonstrated that Smith is the best option we have so far on that path. But I have other things going on right now than to be overtly suspect pushing. If you want honestly, I'll tell you that I think Vordahl is as likely to be Cooper as Smith is, which is to say: not much likelihood. They are individuals who I think should be further investigated by us armchair nerds, but that's it. I'm not really sure how realistic any of the named suspects are at this point. Bottom line is that Cooper's lip was drawn a certain way for a reason and it remained pretty damn consistent. Then Flo's awful sketch comes along and even that sketch seems to have some oddness with his lower lip. Unfortunately we don't have a great shot of KK5-1's mouth, but on the best copy we have you can tell he doesn't have thin lips either. And "thick" comes from Alice fwiw.

Regarding the nose, often the context for their comments are in regard to recommend changes to the sketch. So they’ll say “make the nose wider”, usually in reference to Bing’s Michael Jackson looking nose. I think it’s best just to say that Cooper’s nose, as remembered, is what is reflected in the three Comp B’s because the nose in those sketches are ultimately what they signed off on when they say “very close resemblance” or “he would be easily recognized from this sketch.” I’ve searched for “protruding” in the 302’s and it’s not there. It comes directly from Rose’s interview with his grandson. Pouty is used independently by Tina and Alice. “Thick” is in the 302’s. Again, I think Cooper’s mouth, as remembered, is ultimately what is reflected in the final sketch. Words can be interpreted many different ways so I feel it’s probably best just to rely on the final sketch for our best idea of what his particular facial features looked like.

So far no 302's have popped up where we are certain they are about Hahneman other than one relating that Hahneman's composite sketch was shown to a Cooper witness. I find it hard to believe they didn't show his photo to the Cooper witnesses. We know they did it immediately after McCoy and there's no reason to think they wouldn't have done the same for Hahneman considering how similar the hijackings were. From a looks perspective, my issues with "Bill", as he was known, are with his nose and lip. Cooper's nose appears narrow and comes to a point, whereas Hahneman's nose is round and bulbous. Also, the lips are off by a good bit. Fly and I will disagree on this, no doubt, but I believe it's quite evident. Cooper's lower lip is described in the witness statements and 302's as "thick", "pouty", "protruding", and we have an instance where Flo is looking through photos and points to a person and says that their lower lip is similar to Cooper's (meaning that Cooper's lower lip was somewhat distinctive).Whereas Hahneman is literally called "thin lipped" in multiple news articles I've come across. Maybe he got stung by a bee before NORJAK or something.

Hahneman run through an AI enhancement.

Hahneman's first cousin, Robert Ordonez, was the Honduran Ambassador to the United Nations. Hahneman had apparently stayed at Ordonez' home in Honduras while on the run, but Ordonez was in New York at the time. My belief is that the Representative who asked Hunt the question about Hahneman was just throwing random things at the wall. For whatever reason he remembered the connection between the Honduran ambassador and his hijacking cousin, so when the topic of Honduras came up he just threw that out there. Just my opinion though.

Hahneman is a real enigma. I don't think we'll ever know what he was really up to.

Copycat Richard LaPoint told some Catholic priests to get off the plane even before his ransom showed up.

Some wild footage from one of the Cooper Copycat hijackings. If you recall, this is the hijacking I posted about recently where the pilots abandoned ship and left the Stews with the armed hijackers. The plane landed on a small airfield south of Houston and news reporters went to the scene to cover it. They were blocked by local law enforcement and a brawl ensued. Try to imagine a physical encounter with law enforcement like this occurring in today's world!

Been to able to clean up and enhance the best image we have of KK5-1 (the one that FBI gave Doc Edwards)

Got bored and decided to try and make Flo's Dracula looking sketch more like a traditional Cooper sketch.

Posted about him a few weeks ago but the way that Cooper copycat Melvin Fisher was described by the flight crew is remarkably similar to Cooper, yet Fisher was an unemployed house painter. A total loser essentially. Makes me wonder if we inflate the few statements that we have about Cooper and perhaps turn him into something he was not. From the UPI article covering his court appearance: "The captain and two stewardesses, in opening day testimony, said Fisher appeared rational, coherent and knew a lot about airplanes." "Capt. Charles Dodds said it became apparent that Fisher, 49, 'knew a little more than the average person knew' about flying when he told Dodds it would be all right to take off with a tailwind if the wind was less than 10 knots. 'Also', Dodds said, 'he knew about our dual communication system.' " "Dodds said at one point, Fisher told him an exact pattern to fly and at what altitude, and insisted that he lower the rear stairwell and lower the flaps to slow the airplane." "Dodds said Fisher appeared 'very, very reasonable.' " "Dodds said he received a note from Fisher which said '$550,000 in circulated $100 bills and a parachute.' " "Stewardess Susan Sigmier...testified that Fisher appeared 'calm'. 'I'm sure he was nervous, but he didn't act real nervous and was real courteous,' she said." Interestingly, in the Fisher case, he brought a briefcase on board that had a fake bomb that he showed to the crew and also had walkie-talkies with him. He had one of them taken to the pilot, which is how they communicated.

LaPoint was a door gunner in Vietnam. I'm not sure where the media got that he was a paratrooper from, but that was repeated in the papers a bunch at the time. There's no evidence he had jumped before during his civilian or military life. Also, investigated him further just now and I'm not sure this is something that needed to be "defused". Sounds like he just had a bunch of flares.

Copycat Richard LaPoint's bomb was apparently real.

He’s in the 302’s that have been released. Not much but he’s there. His photos were apparently exhibited to witnesses.

The hearings were a year after Hahneman's hijacking. He was a nobody just like all the other copycats. I'm not sure precisely sure why this was brought up at the Watergate hearings, but I believe it had something to do with the fact that one of the burglars had some dealings with Honduras. Perhaps the Hahneman hijacking was the only thing this bloviating Congressman knew about Honduras.

I must have missed it. That's the problem with mega-threads like this one and the ones over on the other site. Miss a month and you're 50 pages behind.

Hahneman was mentioned in the Watergate Hearings

May have been posted before, but it's the full scan of the Inflight NWO magazine for Nov-Dec 71. Pretty cool map inside of it. https://northwestairlineshistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NWA_mag_Passages_1971-11.pdf Also, what is this about? I'm assuming they're referring to how you can adjust the height of the flame on those Bic type lighters.