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There is about as much simulated sex as there is simulated violence on TV, however you have to pay for the more graphic stuff. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

And then you wonder why people think you want to take away their guns. Says a guy that's surrounded by idiots operating 2-ton machines at 70+ mph on his way to a dropzone in hopes of jumping out of an airplane. Were you aware of the gun situation in this country when you applied for permanent residency and started conducting business? How about when going through the naturalization process? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Infamy gets all the glory. . . Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Try telling that to the alarmists. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

lol, "the Rhys era." What other infamous legacies? "The Rise and Fall of the Great Shah" "The Bill Cole Prophesies" Any others? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

That didn't last long - I thought you weren't responding to me anymore? You seem like a pretty reasonable and thoughtful guy, so I apologize if I got under your skin last week - my bad. Personally, I think you bring a lot to the forum. I wouldn't take my last comment to seriously - it was just facetious rambling that said more about HOAs than Harney. I've lived in some small towns before - the drama runs think in these places and sometimes it gets the best of people. I guess I forgot to add the toungue-in-cheek smiley. Peace. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I'm not sure how it costs anything to do nothing until the idiots come out and get arrested. Does it not cost to employ people to watch over them? Does it not take away from the resources these Leo's could be putting toward the community if this wasn't happening This is their job - it's what they already get paid to do. If anything, the people are getting their money's worth rather than having LEOs driving around aimlessly - afterall, This. Is. Harney. County. Part of me wonders if Harney is just filled with a bunch of morons and the Bundies finally just had enough of their bullshit. I've lived in some small towns before that have seemed to suffer from an "HOA mentality" - kind of makes me wonder sometime. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Oh God, come on - it's not like these people occupied an orphanage. I mean seriously - other than for comic relief, does anybody really give a shit about this besides the locals? Hell, would the locals have even noticed if nobody told them this was happening? The employees should just enjoy their paid vacation and let this fizzle out like a bad fart - don't worry about the birds, they'll be fine. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have these people holed up in this place rather than roaming the streets. They are apparently incapable of living in society - they belong in a wild life refuge. Pretty soon 3 hots and a cot behind bars won't sound so bad to these people. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I thought maybe it had something to do with Walberg trying to score some points after Flint's water crisis. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I find it a bit peculiar that you're singling out Walberg by name since this whole prescription drug thing has been (D-MD) Elijah Cummings' pet project since 2011 along with Bernie Sanders starting in 2014. "For more than a year, I have pressed the Committee to investigate the skyrocketing costs of prescription drugs, and I’m pleased that the Chairman has now agreed to hold this hearing,” Cummings said." http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/tuesday-oversight-committee-holds-drug-pricing-hearing-long-sought-by-cummings Cummings' statement to Shkreli: "Mr. Shkreli was subpoenaed to appear before Congress, and it is his responsibility to take reasonable steps to comply. If he plans on trying to use his own intentional inaction as some kind of bogus excuse for not showing up at Tuesday’s hearing, people will see right through such a juvenile tactic. I hope he reconsiders his current course and avoids any additional legal action against him." http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/cummings-issues-statement-on-martin-shkreli-s-subpoena-to-appear-before More Info: Cummings' and Sanders' Investigation: http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/cummings-and-sanders-investigate-staggering-price-increases-for-generic-drugs How it all started - scroll down for 4 pages of press releases history: http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/investigations/investigation-of-skyrocketing-prescription-drug-prices Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Why not just let the market destroy them now that a competitor stepped in....? Well, it's not just about Shkreli - there are 5 other witnesses including Valeant's CEO. Afterward, they can sit around for 3 hours and debate whether or not to ban him from the country. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Fact. Fact, almost everybody who has reached the age of 10 and above is a liar. Maybe Mother Theresa is exempt, but I am not convinced that is true. Ya, well that's why I used the capital "L" Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

When we entertain forums like this one, our differences are magnified. It's always about our differences in religion, politics, sexual orientation - our views on guns, the economy, abortion, etc. - and they're all emotionally charged. All the negativity in this fuckin' place make it seem like it's always the end of the world. ...but in reality - out there in society, we're not focused on any of that shit. In any given day, I'm directly interacting with maybe 10-20 morons whose ideology I absolutely fucking despise - but we keep that shit bottled up, put on a happy smile and go about our business just to keep the world spinning. It's just like the old adage goes - no religion, guns or politics - because without all that nonsense, we're all pretty much the same. Well ya, that's what this place is for - do you really think we're here to agree on everything and solve the world's problems? We need to vent our angst, lest we actually start believing it - and this is as good an outlet as any. The problem here is that some people are just too damn sensitive. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

That will be the next step. Gun control advocates will start bitching that there is no accountability nor deterrent for transactions without background checks - they're practically unenforceable. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Ya, we're just a bunch of sorry-ass niggers from Detroit - nothing to see here: Summertime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whXG3XxxxZo Timelapse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwKKO__MpjA Sad he had to rip off Warren Zevon. It's a reminiscent piece reflecting the ambiance behind one's coming of age. It's not the first time Ritchie paid tribute to his influence, so I don't share the sentiment of your brickbat critique. The sad thing however is that 30 years later, the people up here are are still "smoking funny things." Last week, a major air carrier on the old base here was to hire 30 new employees. Of the 130 applicants, only 11 passed the drug test - Probably the same morons I always hear bitching about how there are no good jobs in Michigan anymore. Some people write great "coming of age" songs and can also do it with out having to leach off other artist. Ugh, I don't want to belabor the point, but dude - really? It's a lighthearted tune about going up north and "playing some rock n roll - making love to our favorite song - all summer long." The medley itself implies that those are the popular songs he's talking about. What's so hard to get about that? I see your night moves and raise you a ramblin gamblin man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKwXHDs1R6Y Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

So she watches a Hollywood movie, and decides based on the story in it that HRC lied. Not so much defending HRC as wondering where that woman learned (or more accurately, didn't learn) to separate fact from fiction. Hillary is a Liar, fact or fiction? Also, funny how comments defending Hillary always seem have the "I'm not defending her" clause attached to it. Ya, she probably believes the Titanic actually sank as well. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Ya, we're just a bunch of sorry-ass niggers from Detroit - nothing to see here: Summertime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whXG3XxxxZo Timelapse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwKKO__MpjA Sad he had to rip off Warren Zevon. It's a reminiscent piece reflecting the ambiance behind one's coming of age. It's not the first time Ritchie paid tribute to his influence, so I don't share the sentiment of your brickbat critique. The sad thing however is that 30 years later, the people up here are are still "smoking funny things." Last week, a major air carrier on the old base here was to hire 30 new employees. Of the 130 applicants, only 11 passed the drug test - Probably the same morons I always hear bitching about how there are no good jobs in Michigan anymore. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Peace...thanks for playing. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

That's kind of the point - Canada's universal healthcare system was so terrible they had to bring their people to Detroit for help. . . Some of my favorite photography is that which contrasts urban decay with contemporary development. Why do you use religion to control people? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

You got something to say? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Ya, we're just a bunch of sorry-ass niggers from Detroit - nothing to see here: Summertime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whXG3XxxxZo Timelapse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwKKO__MpjA Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Just keep sitting there on the lake shore gazing north at the promised land. You can't have it. We don't need your cheap beer and loose women - even your Cubans are stale. I just wanted to add that I grew up in Detroit. During my college years, I ran a business in my high-rise condo on the river overlooking Canada and the Ambassador Bridge. (Riverfront) What a shit-hole Canada was, scum - skank-ass prostitutes, cheap casinos and watered down beer. I pitied them as ambulances ran almost constantly across the bridge to Detroit to save them from their sorry-ass universal healthcare system...how pathetic. Fuck Canada - just a bunch of selfish lazy liberals that have created absolute shit with the resources they have. God knows why we didn't just take all of North America when we had the chance - hell, probably easier just to take it now while they're asleep. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Just keep sitting there on the lake shore gazing north at the promised land. You can't have it. We don't need your cheap beer and loose women - even your Cubans are stale. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I'm thinking you probably did not comprehend this part of Scott's post: '. . . several of these clowns . . . ' Even the locals out there in nowhere Oregon are against them, in an area where one would think they would have some grass roots support. It's a shitty cause that most people don't care to get behind... Right, but not bad for a bunch of dummies so far...imagine if they had numbers and some brains. . . Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Are you saying that you feel Bundy is building this foundation? And what "fall" are you talking about? It shows me that people are dumb enough to care about this fucking place - it gives me hope! It doesn't matter what you think - you're just another Crazy Canuk dumbfounded by the abundance of resources you've been given by the grace of God. . .and when it comes time, we'll happily take it from you as well. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour