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You are honestly the first person I hear this from. Wingloading maybe? Or unusually long arms? And are you sure the demo wasn't adjusted by someone before you? I take it you jumped your friend's rig that was brand new. PM me, since this is getting off-topic.

That would be why they come too long for most people, I guess some people will have gorilla arms. I shortened mine quite a bit, too.

Sure, I am aware of that, and I go and ask him about everything anyone tells me about anything. But I try to listen to what everyone can tell me and ask around because from each person's explanation of the same thing, you can usually find something that you might have missed if it was explained to you in a different way with more stress on a different aspect of it for instance.

Yeah, I'd like to see it on someone's head, too. I've only seen pics with empty helmets. If one of you guys can post or email me a picture with a head inside, I would really appreciate that.

I have been reading the 50 ft flat turn thing in a lot of replies lately. I can't help but think that this sounds awfully low. Maybe not for a 190 loaded at 1:1, but for the 120 at 1.1:1 I am jumping, I am still having trouble imagining it. I talked to my former Instructor about this, who is the most fantastic and innovative advisor, and he said, that with a lot of experience and practice I could probably flare turn it in 20 ft, and that a flat turn does not necessarily equal a flat turn. His advice was to start practicing non-agressive flat turns up high, and try to achieve a turn with a minimum pendulum, then work my way down with this. He suggested we do a hop'n'pop together and look at each others' fingers so to speak. I think this a great idea, and I hope he has time soon. So my question is (since it is always good to listen to a lot of people's versions of things) what pointers would you guys give me that I might have missed? Thanx, Nadine

Then what you've jumped was probably not the factory setting. All 5 Sabre2's at my home DZ (including mine), and all 3 at my second home DZ had brakes that were too long. Judging from the posts in the forums that seems to be the general case, at least with 1-1.2:1 wingloadings.

And also snowing here

Has anyone seen or tried the new Z1 Evo (I'm not sure if it's on the market yet)? I was considering getting one, but at the shop a girl told me that the last model they made for ff was really bad, and the straps broke off easily. So if anyone has had one in their hands, I'd really appreciate some info on what the quality and durability could be.

does SHE have big boobs?good looking..she´s welcome This is hopeless, I can't even sound threatening

OK, how 'bout a pic with different panties, and jeans over them Man, this boobie culture, behave, or I'll send you my big bad Russian friends

yep we want pics OOHNNOOOO!!! Now what did I get myself into again

Wha? Oh, you mean Rdutch. Wish I was so lucky

I've never jumped a Vector but own an Odyssey, which I absolutely love. The only thing I can actually compare on really, is the look. I think the Odyssey looks a lot nicer. Why don't you ask your local shop if they have demo rigs, or rental rigs you can try out? Edited to add this: My experience with Sunpath was that they did everything to make me happy and get my rig finished in record time so I could take it back with me. I am sure I will always buy from them in the future.

I had asked my rigger if it was OK to squeeze a older 135 (figuring they tend to pack smaller with time) in a container made for a 120. He said I could do it, but it will only strech the material of the container. Kind of like if you buy too tight jeans, after a while they will stretch to accomodate you comfortably. Of course, with jeans, you only need to wash them to get back the original fit, I am not sure if that would be the case with containers, and if that applies to larger containers at all in fact. But looking at my b/f's rig (made for a Stiletto 120, but has a Velocity 96 in it now, which apparantly packs larger), his rig had to be mended at several parts at the last check. On the other hand, it does have a few years and a lot of jumps on it.

Thanks you guys, I am feeling better already. And I didn't miss much, since the sunshine didn't last long before it started to snow

Here's a hug from snowy Berlin then

Well, it was the middle of the day over here But the things with the socks, I regularly find a sock in my sleeping bag. This season I already found two singles to match two of the singles in my closet

britain: in the Balfour declaration .November 2, 1917 long before WW2 and hitler's other idea for a solution. OK, now you are diverting, the actual topic was the creation of Israel after WW2, see my and also your previous posts. So in that case you my friend are confused and also confusing. no, the area was called palestine (historically named after another civilization that has nothing to do with todays arabs) there was never a palestinian state instead of /next toisrael , besdie jordan which majority is "palestinians" the fact is that they've become a "nation" due to historic events and becasue neither jordan nor egypt wanted these lands back. So you are saying it was a no man's land? Isn't every piece of land someone's land? Very strange to have people with Palestinian IDs and such from that time then, hmmm. I thought you just said Palestine never existed before 1967. Again you are confused and confusing. no one is forcing you to reply. your post was full of historic mistakes. No, you just keep changing what you are talking about and are a bit confused. my solution? 2 countries side by side. and thats the accepted solution, the difference is where would the borders of these countries be . Well, at least we agree on one point. I am presuming the original Israeli/Palestinian borders would be a solution, but then you'd have to ask a lot of Israelis to move out of their homes, or live in Palestine. I am not sure whose books you are reffering to, but do I sense a dislike for Europeans, too? For your info, most citizens of your neighboring countries don't hate Israelis as a people, they just hate your government and politics. In fact, Israelis were and are still welcome e.g. in Egypt as long as they act civilized. I and many others met a lot of those people over the years. A government usually, ironic as it is, does not portray the beliefs of its people. If you don't mind my asking, how old are you?

I get attached to my favorite ones The loss of a panty is like the loss of a child *cough* *possible fever speaking here*

About half a year ago I lost one of my favorite panties, asked my mother to look for it, since I thought I forgot it there, but she usually ignores such requests. So now for some reason my washing machine is not tumbling properly, so I open up the manual to troubleshooting and realize I have to clean the filter which I am not really keen on doing. But I need to wash, so I get a bowl, and start unscrewing the thing, and what do I find inside, my panty . Well now it's back in the machine, and I hope this time I'll find it in the drum. OK so I am post-whoring a bit today

And one also for you wrong, the whole region was controlled by britain (what is now israel and jordan) and france (syria and lebanon). Not wrong, but inaccurate, Britain did control that region, but the division was a proposal from the UN, which was carried out by Britain. But the idea came from who? Well then it is very strange that it exists on older maps, and in older documents. I think you are a bit confused, Palestine has ceased to exist long before 1967. In any case, that was not the topic of my post, and thanx for hijacking it. But if Israelis are more civilized than their counterparts, why don't they pull back from the Palestinian regions? I am sure you are aware of the immense difference of the maps from 1948 and today. An uniformed army does not void an intent of terrorism. But I really don't care to debate this. What I am interested in though (earnestly), is what would your solution be to this crisis, since you come from (and still live in?) that region?

Oh bugger, the sun is shining on a weekend (which it rarely does in this time of year and part of the world), and I am stuck home with a horrible cold. But at least I get to watch two not so great FF videos for the second time

Thank you for clearing that up. I do agree with you about the confusion of civilian-looking people blowing up (though my post was on a slightly different topic). But you also have to see where this came from. I lived in the Middle East for 18 years, so am pretty familiar with the crisis there. Israel was established by the UN at some point after WW2, basically turning one country into another and diminishing the identity of the first, and taking away the nationality of its people. Still there were designated areas for Palestinians and the newly declared Israelis, but I am sure you were already aware of that. Skipping a few years where the Arabs in the regions tried to take out Israel, I'll go to more current events and beliefs. The Arabs and other neighbors of Israel believe that Israel is trying to regain Jewish land which is from the Nile to the Euphrate (sp?) according to the Tora (sp?)/Old testament, which Israel has made them believe even more by occupying Sinai in Egypt, for instance, as well as attacking other neighbors. But the thing leading to the suiciders today is the occupation of Palestinian designated land, followed by pleas for help from Palestinians, followed by UN resolutions and proposed help actions that were all vetoed by the US. Since all countries abide by the UN rules, no one was able to interfere since the US vetoed anything with the word Israel in it. Now since the Palestinians see no hope in ever getting "civilized" help/justice from anyone, they take matters into their own hands. The message in the Middle East at the time of the start of the suicide bombings was something to the effect of "We will terrorize every one of you for as long as it takes until you take your troops out of the occupied territories". To me the answer to this crisis seems simple, if somehow Israel was forced to leave the occupied regions, the madness would stop. When I lived there (that was before the suicide bombings started), the general consensus was that the US was vetoing every effort to help in order to give the region a good distraction and to prevent them from advancing and becoming strong, and possibly uniting against the US. Well as we have seen, that didn't protect the US, whether it was true or not, it just bread state-independant terrorist organizations, if that's in any way related.

Maybe so, and it is a mystery to everyone that lives outside of the US. But times and people change...keep that in mind. There you are wrong, I doubt you know the meaning of terrorism better that I do. The only reason I am still alive, is because of the fact that school busses went out earlier than usual at the day of a bomb attack at a location that my bus drives through. It is VERY sad, that people like you think only the US was ever affected by terrorism.

Let's assume that the US invasion of Iraq is necessary (not my opinion, but not the point of my post either, so please don't go there yet again) The reasons were Iraq is a threat to the world, breaks UN resolutions and Iraqi people need liberation. As opposed to e.g. North Korea Iraq was once a US ally, as was El Qaida. They were both provided with training and/or weapons. Both have turned on the US. Now I am thinking Israel. US ally, but breaks UN resolutions, has been occupying more and more palestinian land every year since its establishment. Since one by one all US allies seem to be turning against the US, is it not a bit conceivable that Israel might do so, too? It is, as far as I am concerned, and correct me if you are really positive of something else and not just repeating a TV channel or magazine, the only country in the Middle East to have nuclear weapons and not allow inspectors in. There were loads of UN proposed actions against Israel, but each and every one of them was vetoed by the US. The US public is still under the impression that the Israeli government is the good guy. Sure there are the Palestinian suicide bombers, but there is also the Israeli terror army. The fact that they are dressed in camouflage uniforms does not make them any more noble or rightful, since they are still operating on occupied land. A few years ago, before there were suicide bombers, the US still vetoed action to get Israeli troops out of the occupied regions. So assuming that Iraqi people need liberation, well so do Palestinian people. In that issue I sure hope the plan for a separate Israel and Palestine in 2005 goes through. As for Iraqi people needing liberation, I spent two weeks with an Iraqi around Christmas. He told me that the Iraqi people were finally starting to slowly pull out of the depression the Gulf war left them with. The war is putting that country back another 12 years, unless the US and UK have BIG plans to get them back on track. Speaking from my knowledge of that culture, I am almost sure the Iraqi people did not want to get "liberated" by the US. Which brings me to another issue, supposedly some CIA person was telling the Egyptian and Saudi government to become nervous, because the US is on the side of the people they fear most, which are their own people. Now that is yet another thing that really shows how the US has no idea about foreign politics or affairs, but is still willing to make such threats and take funny action. I believe that this is the "trait" that breeds terrorists against the US. Although in the case of Egypt, throwing over the current government would be a favor for islamic extremists. To me it seems that the US government is very good at fixating the public on one current issue, and forgetting to mention ties and future outlooks, while also diverting away from similarities in other regions. I just keep wondering if every US generation has to do a similar mistake, or will the next generation ever learn from history? It's really a shame that Clinton was shunned and the Bushes are carried high. You surely do know the quiz with the three leaders to choose from; the one that was a faithful family man, didn't drink or smoke whatever turned out to be Hitler, which goes to show that private matters have no effect on the ability to lead a country well or badly. In the world's eyes, the US had a fantastic economy, the $ was pretty high and had good international ties and respect because of Clinton, then came Bush and ruined all that... But the guy with the good propaganda has to be more qualified?