sundevil777

It is not unusual for the goverment to dictate morality through laws. Some think that there should be no law restricting what a mother can do when the baby is still inside her body, no matter when. I think that is not reasonable. I think those that disagree would do better to focus their debate on why being inside their body, no matter what stage of development of the baby, is all that matters. The govt imposes morality in many ways, I think that at some point the life must be protected as any other. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Kapowsin had a Porter with a bench for quite a while where 10 was kinda cramped but a std load. I only did 1 jump in a Porter without a bench. I actually can't remember how many were in it, probably more than 8, but it was really awful. If 8 was always the max, then it would probably be good. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

http://www.tonysuits.com/index.php4 Clicking on some of the RW suits info & order forms (pit special, swoop, tony) will get you to their suit designer program download. It doesn't look like they have the same for their freefly suits. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Porters with a bench on the left side are so much nicer. You can get 10 in slightly squeezed, 9 is easy. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Purely and simply, it is about whether, and when, it is a life worth protecting as any other. That protection is granted by law to other lives. I think you are avoiding the tough questions of whether and when it is life until birth, or whether a mother should be allowed the choice to kill it at any time. Purely and simply. If it seems that I'm not in a good mood, it is because I'm not. That's what happens when spouses choose to make convenient choices about tearing their families apart. I will stop posting for tonight. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

You are very presumptive and demanding. You know very well people can't just do what they want. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I got served...notifying me of my wife's intent to divorce. 13+ years and 2 sons... I have been trying to contain my emotions, but that isn't easy. Post whoring to occupy my mind doesn't really help. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

He was shooting at our planes enforcing the no fly zones, long before 9/11 or our invasion of Iraq. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think that we should have joined the war against Germany before we were attacked. I think that is an important difference. I think the rest of Europe should have also, before they were attacked. Also, he was constantly violating the terms of the '92 cease fire, including shooting at our planes quite often. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

So, maybe we should conclude that some nations in the middle east are not capable of, cannot be trusted to live in peace, internally or with the rest of the world. We don't even know if it will work (long term) in Afghanistan, but even you supported that war. I still think that SH had to go, nearly as urgently as the Taliban. Buckley is always a good read. His interviews on TV were also quite illuminating. His style could put you to sleep, but he was thoughtful and asked the best questions. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

It has been a while since my logic and reason class, but I think fallacies are part of your argument for abortion rights. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

My cutoff point would be a while before the third trimester, but I'm not settled on exactly when. Having an unwanted baby is a tremendous burden, but after a certain point, I think the scales of justice can only tip one way. After that point, I think the circumstances of the conception are not relevant. My positions are not so unusual, and I think not so extreme. I think it is extreme to take the position that regardless of the stage of development, only the mother's wishes matter. I think that is pretty simple and understandable. Even if you don't agree with me, my answers to all the emotional arguments against me are predictable. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

If your position involves putting your opinion on what is right and wrong above that of a woman who is a total stranger to you, then no, I do not understand your position. If it's your sister/GF/spouse, then your opinion counts for something, but does not trump hers. There are laws that define lots of things as being right/wrong. On what basis does our government define what is prohibited? The opinion of our lawmakers, representing the public. I don't think it is reasonable to pretend that laws passed because of opinions of what is right and wrong are unusual. It is also not unusual to define what is prohibited even though those people are strangers to the lawmakers. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think a good reason to question the speedbag design is described in an earlier post (post #18) of this thread: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2096406#2096406 I think something could be done to help prevent the knot from being able to come through the grommet and effectively locking it, perhaps a cone shaped cover of some sort - something could be done. I think it is worthy of investigation, as it does seem to be a valid failure mode that could be fixed. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

People can be selfish, that is definitely true. People can want to think that it is not a life no matter how close to full term it is, because they don't want their lives to be changed. So, which is it for you - not a life until birth, or does the mother always have the right to kill it? Kallend has made his position clear, that it is not a life until birth. Incorrect. My position is that until birth it is none of anyone's business except the woman. That is very different from what you wrote. Our society does not confer "personhood" until birth, and I have given numerous examples in support of that position. I bet you have a Birth Certificate but you don't have a conception certificate, a neural activity certificate or a viability certificate. Explain why a woman who is the victim of rape should have to have anyone's permission to have an abortion. It simply isn't your business, my business, GWB's business, the SD legislature's business or the Pope's business. So it seems like you take both positions, that it is not yet a person (pretty close to saying that it is not a life until birth), and it is nobody elses business (pretty close to saying that the mother has the right to kill it - or at get rid of it since you can't kill it if it isn't a person/alive). I think a victim of rape should be limited in when they can get rid of it because the circumstances of the conception are not relevant to the worth of the life being protected. I understand that you don't agree it is a life worth protecting, but can't you understand my position? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think you are largely correct about many fundamentalist right to life advocates. But abortion rights activists want to take the position that any limitation to that right must be resisted because of the slippery slope. I don't that position is reasonable, just as gun rights advocates don't want any further restriction on guns because of the slippery slope - not a reasonable argument. I think the advocates on both sides should moderate their positions to find a compromise that will be better than the current situation. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Opposition to abortion on demand is not limited to the religious. I'm not particularly religious. I believe in some sort of afterlife, and a soul, but I don't think any of the organized religions really know what it is all about. It seems that you are fucking judging me. I don't take this position because of a religious belief, but I think that at a point during the pregnancy it should be considered a life worth protecting as any other, and after that point killing it should not be allowed. Very different freedoms you are comparing, I think. I don't think I should have to be a pacifist in order to take the position that at some point it is a life worth protecting as any other. There are lots of things you aren't allowed to do because it affects others. Some things you can't do even though it is hard to see how it affects others. We don't have a right to live our lives as we wish without limits. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

If the unborn baby has no rights, then there is no controversy. Clearly a lot of people think it does, at least at some point. The govt has the right to prohibit killing, does it not? So, it comes down to whether and when it is actually killing, and whether that should be allowed if it is still in the mother's body. I think slippery slope arguments are just distractions. I can't understand the argument that "govt shouldn't intrude because of what they might do next". There could be no laws limiting your actions with that position. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

People can be selfish, that is definitely true. People can want to think that it is not a life no matter how close to full term it is, because they don't want their lives to be changed. So, which is it for you - not a life until birth, or does the mother always have the right to kill it? Kallend has made his position clear, that it is not a life until birth. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Try again since you didn't answer last time. What's your answer to pregancy by rape? Make sure your answer does not in any way further infringe on the right of the woman to live her life as she sees fit. He wont. He's already stated that he wont speculate what to do in case his 12-year old daughter got pregnant as a result of rape; I doubt he'll do the same for a more general case. It appears that you are correct. He doesn't have an answer. You appear to think there must be an easy answer, one that doesn't infringe on the right of the woman to live her life as she sees fit. I've clearly answered you, that after a certain point that right of the mother is outweighed by the right to live. You've responded by saying that I'm sick. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Would you really tell a 14 year old, poor girl who has just been brutally raped that she HAS to give birth? Really? That's pretty sick. Only after a certain point of the pregnancy. Not easy to do, but it is the only consistent thing to do if you believe it is a life worth protecting as any other. It is easy to describe circumstances to get sympathy for the mother, but how does the value of the life get diminished by those circumstances? Of course there is no conflict if you take the position that it is not a life until birth or the mother always has the right to kill it before birth. I haven't labeled your priorities as sick, I don't think helps the discussion to insult mine. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think most people disagree, at least at some time during the pregnancy. If it is considered murder, then why should the raped mother's wishes outweigh the right to live? I think this issue is appropriate to establish by law or constitutional amendment, not for the courts to settle over the issue of privacy. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

It sounds like you're describing moral relativism. I think that not many would agree that there are no moral absolutes. Are you saying that the father should have a say in it? It would seem that you have to conclude that it is not a life until birth, or that mothers have the right to kill their unborn children. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

They don't always break. Bag locks still happen with mil spec bands. But they do often break when you don't want them to. Mr. Sherman trusts them so little for locking stows that the speedbag uses a multitude of them. If you haven't had bag dump of your main due to mil spec bands breaking when you didn't want them to - you probably will. I make my own tube stows for my main, very cheap. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

At least Muslims apparently have the right to not be insulted in Germany (at the bottom of the page): http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185873,00.html And you might have thought political correctness had gone too far in the US... People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am