sundevil777

I would think it is quite wrong for this type of info to get out. No reason to give any help to others that want to develop such coatings. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

There is a big difference between defense and offense. We could have defended ourselves from our adversaries in WWII without invading/conquering them. A lot fewer people (at least Americans) would have died, and that is so important as you've stated. Again, "defense". Quite different than invading/conquering others, even after being attacked. I think a president Gore would not have invaded Afghanistan. I think he would have sent in some cruise missiles and some airstrikes for a while (maybe quite a long while), and called it contained, but no invasion. Oh, and there would have been diplomatic efforts to find out why they don't like us and try to make it better. What do you think a president Gore would have done? I know you are aware of their attacking our guys while they were involved with enforcing/monitoring the cease-fire agreement that ended the first gulf war. Perhaps you think that doesn't matter. Perhaps you think enforcing the cease fire agreement was optional, that we should have had a conference with diplomats to ask them to please stop doing that, and the other things for which they did not comply. Perhaps it was because Bush was asking, SH might have been buddies with a president Gore. There is also the matter of Iraq admitting to sponsoring attacks on a key ally of ours - Israel. But of course that doesn't matter to many. I never claimed SH was responsible for 9/11. I did explain that he did attack us and our allies, but of course as you've declared about WWII, it isn't worth it for us to get involved just because allies are attacked. Do you think the first gulf war was justified? Iraq didn't attack us, just a country that wasn't even a close ally. Why should defending Kuwait have been worth the possibility of so many Americans dieing? Why not let them defend/fail at defending themselves? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

So then Neville Chamberlain would be a hero of yours. Churchill recognized the threat early on and tried to get the rest of Europe to stop it before it became powerful. It could have been stopped early on, but nooo, most wanted to pursue diplomatic solutions, after all, people would die if it had been confronted early on. Why do you conclude America's involvement in WWII was justified, just because we were attacked, because of a formal declaration of war? That is pretty slim grounds, why not just pursue containment? Why does a declaration of war change your desire for soldiers to not get killed? Not only should Britain, France and European powers have declared war on Germany sooner, but most people I think recognize that WWII would have been much shorter, with a much better result (fewer people dead, Soviets would have controlled less of Eastern Europe if America had not waited to get involved. Do you disagree? Perhaps you agree but still think it was right to wait until Japan attacked us/Germany declared war. Japan had been conquering parts of China and islands in the Pacific, but it seems you might think it was right to not do anything to stop it until they actually attacked us at Pearl Harbor. If you're going to be advocate containment, defending our own territory, not being the world police, judging that 4000 soldiers weren't worth the removal of Saddam and the freedom of Iraq, why should that stop just because of a declaration of war, or some small attack on home territory? Even WWII was not "necessary". We could have concentrated on defending our own territory. We could have decided to not care about Europe or what was happening in the Pacific. Of course Britain would have fallen, but why should that matter? That was happening to others, not us. Thankfully, Germany and Japan made the mistake of actually attacking us and declaring war. That overcame the inertia of the "peace at any cost/anti-war mongers" of the time. That real cost of this peace at any cost was huge. Thankfully, America got in before the fall of Britain, it would have been very different to liberate Europe without Britain, probably would not have been possible. That you say America was justified to participate in WWII because of the attacks on our territory/ships and the declarations of war shows absolutely that you don't understand the lessons to be learned from that war. We should have been involved much sooner. Diplomacy often does not work, containment often does not work. The use of military force is often still needed. But what the heck, Churchill was responsible for so many deaths, and you compliment Chamberlain for his thumb up the butt diplomatic zeal. Also, I think it is quite true that in effect Iraq did attack us, and they did declare war on us. That you characterize the reasons as "political" shows the depth of your misunderstanding. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think it extremely likely that they will be friendly to America. I think they would still rather that Israel not exist, but their leadership will realize that they must tolerate the existence of Israel, and that it isn't worth pursuing its destruction. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

If the troops had been brought home when the anti-war mongers wanted, do you agree the result would have likely been very bad? The only thing O would be able to take credit for would be that the Iraqis would have decided their own future - but wait, no they would not have, because it would have been decided for them by the militants. Why doesn't O tell us again how he would have rather that we had no surge, but instead left as soon as possible when things were bad? Because he now wants to be taking credit for the good result. I understand that many think the Iraq war was unnecessary. Have there been any wars that were necessary? If you want a prospect for long term peace in the region, then a democratic Iraq may help that a lot. Of course if it is unimportant to you that peace in the region include the survival of Israel, then a democratic Iraq is unimportant. I understand that your position is that we never should have invaded Iraq, that SH not honoring the cease-fire agreement of the first gulf war was unimportant. But the anti-war mongers were absolutely confident that the current result could not be achieved. When faced with what to do after the war was underway, they wanted to make a choice that would not have given us the current result, and they wouldn't have cared about it. Leadership takes more than just saying I never would have started down that path. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

...it wouldn't be happening if the anti-war mongers in congress had been successful at declaring the war un-winnable. They had decided to just get out as quick as possible and to hell with the result. Obama of course gave no credit to others with more wisdom once the war had started. Of course Obama can counter that he never would have had us there. As Charles Krauthammer has noted, Obama also deserves to be criticized for his speech about a stable, sovereign, self-sufficient Iraq. For some reason he didn't mention at all that it is a democracy. As Krauthammer said, if the goal were stable and sovereign, any replacement tyrant of a dictator could have satisfied that desired result. Apparently unimportant to him is that it is a democracy that will be friendly with us. Very important distinction indeed - completely lost on the O. In short, Obama deserves NONE of the credit for the good result of late People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

As we know, the erratic nature of wind and solar energy don't make it possible to rely on them without storing the energy, which of course is difficult to do. But at hydroelectric dams, it is relatively easy to store the power, and what it takes to recover that power is already in place. We should be using solar and wind to pump water that is in the river below the dam, pump it back up to the lake above the dam. Many dams don't operate at full capacity because of a lack of water above the dam, so this would increase the possible flow through the hydroelectric generators. The infrastructure to distribute that power to the masses is already there. Many dams are in windy canyons and in sun-drenched areas. Whenever the solar cells or wind mills can pump water, they can store the energy. It may not be a huge impact on our total energy needs, but it seems like a better application than some other proposals. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

What do you think would be different if the reform candidate that probably did actually win the election becomes president? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Where did you see this reported? If this gets accepted within the general Iranian public, and is widely distributed by the media/underground media there, then what do you think will happen? What do you think will happen even if the "official" results go largely unchallenged in the media? What is the state of the media/underground media there? I am very interested to know your opinions on this. What do you think an Iran ruled by the supposed "real" winner would be like/what would change? How do you think the mullahs would react? We've disagreed on many things in this forum, but I'm confident we both hope for a free and democratic Iran, that would be a great positive influence for peace in that region. I really want to know what you think. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I have not intentionally eaten meat for 30 years. I do not push it on anyone else and will not bring up the subject in conversation unless others do. I still admit that meat smells and tastes good, but the idea of actually eating it is completely unappealing. It has been asserted by PETA (I'm not an advocate of theirs) that the livestock industry contributes more in terms of greenhouse gases than all of the trasportation industry. I haven't heard of anyone claiming that this was false, they just say that it is unimportant because eating habits can't be changed. I disagree, these habits can be affected, when people discover how good the alternatives actually are, there is opportunity for many to stop eating animals. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

He is too hyper, repetitive, gets very boring to listen for very long. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

As if the Dems are free from racists? I think there is more racism and extremism from the left (including Obama's role models/leaders) than the right. The left's brand of racism is acceptable, even desirable to many including much of the media. It is our current president that says marriage is between a man and a woman, it is he that recently declined the opportunity to rescind the don't ask don't tell policy (instituted under a Dem admin), so there is plenty of it to go around. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

So, Mr. Miranda is racist. Is that the point you're making? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Sotomayor apparently thinks that a "wise" Latino judge (also liberal and a woman - unspoken, but surely that was her implication) would have a richness of experience...blah, blah, right? So, perhaps we should consider that a "wise" Caucasian judge (also conservative and a man) would also have a richness of experience...such as knowing what it is like to be assumed by so many in modern society to be racist/sexist/homophobe/whatever (by liberals). Having experienced first-hand what that is like could be considered quite valuable to making decisions on the Supreme Court. Such cases of discrimination are being decided at the SC, so therefore he would be more "wise", would he not? It is just as valid an argument as the racist/sexist argument Sotomayor made. It is also a racist/sexist argument. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

No tubes in America. We just talk about building them and spend millions on reports about building them. No tubes in America! NewYork, Chicago (elevated train), even LosAngeles has a tube. It is very short, but it is a tube... People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Are you trying to compete with Billvon for really crappy analogies? You are doing very well. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think you would be wrong. But I understand that this thread is based on the assumption that you believe so many despise her for reasons that are not warranted, so your misreading of my reply is expected. I don't even see how "vituperative" and "hatred" make sense put next to each other - seems like it isn't a proper modifier for hatred. On the subject of Hillary cheating on Bill, just what I've seen reported over the years, I don't know if anything has been as solid as Bill's infidelity. On the subject of Bill cheating on Hillary, that is so widespread, after the interview with both of them before Bill was first elected, we were supposed to believe that there wouldn't be any more cheating, it continued. He had state troopers bringing girls to him, even the white house staff tried to assist Hillary's efforts to keep him away from Monica Lewinsky. I read the testimony in the Lewisnsky and Jones cases, and it was obvious that Hillary and the White House staff had among their duties to try and control Bill's cheating, Hillary was completely aware that he kept doing it. I simply think that either she didn't care and was still true to him (unlikely), or that she was much more discreet with her other interests. Of course that is their business, I don't care if they have an open marriage, but for Hillary to play the "stand by your man" junk is really insulting. Those kind of insults contribute to people despising her. You wanted to know "What it is about Hillary Clinton", it seems like you've had a lot of people describe it to you, doesn't it seem like it is reasonable? Do you think it is just a partisan issue? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Honored her wedding vows????? That is really funny! Stayed married is the proper way to describe it, I think. Some will stay married when there is no more love left. At least that is what I remember being described by insiders. I don't think either has been true to their spouse in a long time. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think the Clinton dynasty has nothing to do with it. A dynasty in general will be resented, but the dislike of Hillary is very personal, about her personality. What I said was not that conservatives dislike her, it was that liberal colleagues dislike her. If her allies, those that would normally be inclined to like her think she's awful, why should it be any surprise that adversaries agree? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

That is really a bunch of fucking crap! If you're going to speculate about what motivates others to do things, please admit you are speculating, instead of claiming that you actually know anything about it. She is intensely disliked by many, many people that worked with her, people that were liberal democrats. What they describe about her has nothing to do with her husband, it has to do with her, and goes beyond what these political insiders see in other politicians, even those with large egos. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I don't understand how closing dealerships helps a car mfg improve profits. Do the mfgs have to finance the cars for the dealers before they're sold, or do the mfgs not get paid until they're sold? I understand that may be different for different mfgs, but what exactly does a mfg do for a dealer that costs the mfg money? I don't get it at all, since I thought the dealers were independent businesses. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Israel repeatedly has been willing to settle the differences by diplomacy. The Arab nations (with exceptions like Egypt) have repeatedly only pretended to negotiate in good faith, especially the Palestinian Authority. Even as a righty, I do give pres Clinton much credit for the Oslo process. Dennis Ross, who was there on behalf of Clinton, has recounted in great detail how Arafat was only pretending to negotiate. He got almost everything he was asking, his own negotiation team was enthusiastic about recommending the agreement to Arafat, but he had no intention of making peace. Even after Arafat's death, the leadership of the PA has been unable to control actions of their militant factions, and/or unwilling to try. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Gotta love the righty world view. The world is black and whire. No shades of grey at all. If it done by white folks of northern European ancestry, its all good. Diplomacy is for pussies. "We kicked their ass in a war and took their land. We beat 'em fair and square. You got a problem wit dat? We're keeping what we took. Fuck off." A sure way to build lasting peace. You really should read up on the events of 1945-1950 and how what is now known as Israel came about. The folks that pulled it off were terrorists at that time. Then they became world leaders and their past was forgotten... I welcome the opportunity to debate the history. Quite wrong for you to assume I am not knowledgeable in this area. My father's family was wise enough to get out of Russia and to Chicago during the 2nd big wave of pograms before WWI, so I admit I am biased. Your reply was not an argument in favor of anything substantive, you got nothing. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

They want the UK to occupy and rule most of the middle east? Or, are we looking back further? Ottoman rulership may be hard to find at this point... Quite right! People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Begin was also assassinated for it, by extremists within his country. Unfortunately, it is indeed an obstacle to overcome. But without overcoming that, there is no hope of peace, just continuing war or for one side to actually win an overwhelming victory (massive killing - not just a temporary series of cease fire agreements like we have now. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am