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Edward's still gets the facts wrong and the wrong conclusion,, https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/23193030-d-b-cooper-and-flight-305-the-oscillations-and-the-pressure-bump-rev Rataczak said he was hand flying the plane. IT WAS NOT ON AUTOPILOT.. Then Edwards gets the "suburbs of Portland" out of context.. That was when they called Soderlind,, minutes after Cooper jumped.. Cooper did not jump over the Columbia or beyond the Columbia.. As for the oscillations, there were minor ones for some time, normal, then they increased rapidly on the gauge culminating in a physical bump.. this is within seconds not minutes.. An extreme oscillation seen on the gauge was felt as a bump.. Edwards is claiming there is a 7-10 minute separation between the crew reporting oscillations and the bump, this is false and a misread of the evidence. The bump was an extreme oscillation.
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Grabbed it from here.. https://archive.org/details/kcrasp035dbcooper
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The cause of death in the Gunther book, "natural causes", but it is here in an article,, "heart attack"
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You both used the same flawed logic that the TISB particles could only have come from an alloy patent and people associated with it. Everything relies on that flaw.. both of you guys have essentially found a random guy who resembles the sketch and tried to make him fit the evidence.. is it possible to find Cooper that way, sure, but the odds are astronomical. You really think an older guy (58) with over 80 patents, a PHD, worked on the Manhattan Project, no military parachute experience, no aviation experience fits Cooper's profile? Remove the (flawed) tie particle premise then what do you have,,, Now, I will say that I would probably have pursued the same line of inquiry but I would not have brought them forward as a suspect without some major evidence.. I have pursued many things based on a hypothesis that never panned out.
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BOOM, this is gold...
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What about particle contamination on an airplane flying with the bulkhead door open to an engine or via the air bleed system... how do we control for those. The problem is we don't have context.. many of those particles are common. The rare ones are found in electronics, pyrotechnics, medical, dentistry, pigments/paints, automotive and more.. It is a rats nest trying to sort it out... There are two issues,, First, the tie knot had an amount of dust, that suggests it was sitting for some time before Norjak. and if you look at the UV image, the particle distribution is not evenly random,, there are horizontal patterns as if the tie was wiping something or lying in particle dust.. the UV particles are also on the rear tie piece. Tom's Boeing control tie UV image is evenly random. This indicates that many of the particles were likley deposited on the tie when not worn.
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The FBI kept the evidence in a box including the tie.. particle contamination would be inevitable in handling or storage.. fbibox.mov
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Here, Emrick recalled.. he was asked for "four chutes" but learned that the two backs were secured so he only sent the two fronts... Cossey wasn't aware of this and assumed his back chutes from Issaquah were used.. he was asked to ID the chute Cooper used before he learned of it.. thereby giving the wrong description.
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Hard to know, the lab tested it in 1972 then they did again in 2002 when they got the mixed DNA.. Question is.. could any of the testing (including potential fingerprint testing) have left any of the particles.. I read a McCrone case study about SS steel particles being found somewhere that were from the water system.. but the issue is that some of those particles may have been deposited after the hijacking, in storage or testing.. was the tie sitting stored with the chutes..
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I have maybe a dozen pics and he looks like three completely different people.. A single image is weak,, probably true for most of the suspects.
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Just these...
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Yes, that was a composite b/w sketch, a bad one.
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The tie was tested for bodily fluids and probably prints as well,, Does anybody have insights on what tests were used circa 1971 and what types of particles may have been left on the tie?? I know fluorescents were used and fingerprint powder had lots of stuff like Ti... but there were many mixtures.
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Now, that is what I am talkin bout.....
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I just think the softball shows have run their course and become detrimental to the case.. That Reca show did it for me.. Darren's format isn't progressing.. We need a deeper more critical analysis.. that is extremely tough to do on any forum...
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Sounds accurate,, my point about Gregory goes back years, he was completely dismissed because he said he was the closest to Cooper and last on the plane.. people didn't understand that he was actually correct. He was the closest to Cooper after Mitchell moved up front and the last on the plane not the the last getting on the plane but the last ON the plane. Tina also corroborated a brown suit, others did say wavy hair.. he said marceled.. Latin and 1/4 MEX/NATIVE are close... Gregory also said Caucasian... his terminology may have differed slightly but the meanings are close. Individual witnesses never get everything right, but when all the witness testimony including and beyond the sketches is taken into account we have a good profile for Cooper.
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Braden is better than many but he isn't Cooper.
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I get that but the medium is the message,, just having people on your podcast gives them a degree credibility with the public... Listeners are being inundated with misinformation, weak and ridiculous suspects.. most claims just go unchallenged. The truth only emerges from a critical analysis, I don't hear that.. agreeing with everything, throwing softballs and not challenging doesn't allow the listener access or uncover the information necessary to think critically.. I can't do the show, if you want to know why contact me privately.
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Nonsense, you think a passive aggressive personal jab is meaningful. Did you actually read what I said,, I said I would WANT tough questions. I am not out publicly pushing anything for very good reasons, some know the reasons. If and when I am able to I expect tough questions, that is my point. You have tried to criticize what I do post and largely failed.. My point is, IMO, the case is not advancing, it is going backwards with terrible suspects and misinformation getting oxygen.. you know I am right. Darren is a big boy he can handle some criticism.. he can do what he wants but IMO these shows need tougher analysis.. Maybe I will have to do my own show, this thing is losing its integrity.
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TBH,, I am finding these podcast's increasingly frustrating.. the Reca/Peca Vern jones one was such a softball session... The Reca/Peca narrative is a disaster. It doesn't fit the evidence and relies on unreliable and unrealistic claims manufactured by Carl and Reca.. IMO it is a hoax.. and a distraction for the case. Vern rolled over on his back and Darren patted his belly.. these guys are rarely asked the tough questions.. For this episode, Lyle walked back his claims about the guy at Elsinore.. There is no connection to Cooper. Lyle embellished it for publicity then walked it back.. it is in the FBI files. He later claimed that the guy probably read about the case in the media.. classic CYA. Elsinore is a red herring. Corcoran jump boots,, where did that come from.. you guys talk about it as if it was a fact. It isn't. Tina said laceless and ankle high, not loafers,, loafers came from Himmelsbach's speculation in his book and the media. There were no loafers. Somehow laceless got morphed into loafers. Cooper was described as swarthy/olive/latin/dark/one quarter MEX/NATIVE, back then Latino/Hispanic terminology wasn't used yet, they even redid the sketch with primary witnesses to better depict this.. Cooper had these characteristics.. basic qualifications for any suspect. BTW, "olive" is a subset of swarthy and not a tan.. Anybody that discounts this characteristic for Cooper should pack it up and go to the Zodiac case. It is almost universally corroborated by witnesses. Gregory's description was almost entirely corroborated by other witnesses.. it wasn't an outlier.. Russet is brown, Tina also said brown suit. Latin(o) is virtually synonymous to one quarter MEX/NATIVE.. Gregory is very credible. People discounted him early on because he said he was last on the plane and closest to Cooper, 4 seats away.. he actually was the last to leave and closest to Cooper after Mitchell moved forward. He knew Cooper was suspicious and took a good look at him when he left.. Mitchell only noticed him because the stew was paying attention to him. Braden was not Cooper, there is no evidence for him to be Cooper. He was a badass, he looked like a badass, he had dimples thin hair and a very unique look.. He didn't match Cooper's description or profile,, Cooper was not a badass. Braden is a very unique character but that doesn't make him Cooper, it eliminates him. The current DNA sample from the tie is useless.. we need a new analysis with new tech if that is even possible now with the caveat that it is not even certain Cooper was the one wearing the tie for the 7 years prior to the hijacking. As time goes by you'd expect the case to become more fine tuned but it seems the opposite is happening.. the public narrative isn't advancing it is becoming polluted with misinformation and weak or ridiculous suspects with assumptions and conjecture presented as fact.. this discredits the Cooper case as people are inundated with more and more bad information.. The case is going backwards,, I would never do Darren's show with such softball questions, it doesn't help anyone.. it gives oxygen to bad thinking. The Cooper case public discourse is becoming a waste of time. Two steps forward five steps back, the Vortex boogie.. Advice,, these softball interviews are counter productive,, there are ways to ask the tough questions everybody wants asked without being offensive.
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Cossey explains his chute,, never mentions moving the handle from left to right,, but Cooper didn't use Cossey's chute he used Hayden's Pioneer 60-9707 Coss.mov
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Right, I always thought that chute choice argument was a stretch,, we now know that the chutes were basically the same but the one Cooper took was 3 years newer.. and he checked the cards. The evidence supports military experience vs a skydiver, though he wasn't a badass paratrooper like Braden..
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It is more than that, SN 60-9707 was also a Pioneer,, Cossey distinguished his chute from the Pioneer as an NB6/8.. In interviews he claimed his chutes were used and picked up from Issaquah.. (told Carr they came from his home) What I think happened was Cossey was contacted at home about obtaining all 4 chutes and said to pick all of them up from Issaquah,, before Emrich got them they had acquired the two backs from Hayden. Emrich then only sent the fronts but Cossey didn't know that. Cossey was contacted and told a tan Pioneer back chute was left on the plane.. he assumed the missing chute was his Sage/Sage green taken from Issaquah.. He was wrong.. he got the colour wrong and both of Hayden's chutes were Pioneers.. Cossey knew he was wrong the next day but never corrected his error. He never supplied his records but claimed he did and the FBI never caught on.
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Carefully notice here the early description of backpack #1.. olive drab green container, soft tan cotton harness... Cossey claimed his NB6/8 chute, the one Cooper used was sage green nylon container and sage green nylon harness.. Backpack #2 is SN 226 returned to Hayden.
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From citizenslueths.. SN matches.. material looks like ripstop..