FLYJACK

Un-redacted in the Gray files.. and also FBI part 72 p 44 (also repeated in two other parts)

Yikes, I have always said Ulis is a good salesman,, Cooper researcher not so much.

Sounds good except Roberts got the pilot wrong.. not Scott. Rataczak was the one hand flying the plane, Captain Scott took over right before Reno to land..

No. I didn't really, Eric did. The Penny's corporate logo appearing on the tie was updated and first introduced Nov 24, 1963.. It took some time for all products to get the new logo but there was also another change on the tie that indicates not before about spring 1964..

It is clear,, Rataczak acknowledged the flightpath map when he talked about hand flying the plane, so no Western Path.. Rataczak said Cooper jumped before last contact with Cooper at 8:05 and his delayed call to Soderlind which was in the suburbs of Portland. We know there was a delay between the bump/oscillation and the call to Soderlind. So, Cooper jumped well before the Columbia.. Soderlind took notes of the times as he was listening in live.. Soderlind noted when the bump/oscillation occurred. So, these people who are trying to move the jump zone or flightpath have nothing.. nada. Their only angle is to discredit Rataczak, Soderlind, the FBI, the chase pilots, the Air Force, NWA , the 305 pilots and the ATC ... with no evidence to back it up. Cooper jumped between the Lewis R and Battleground.. the highest probability is about 8:12 diminishing as you move North to the Lewis or South to Battleground. The flightpath is accurate within the 1 mile plotting error..

It is not limited to any patents.. but I have looked into Sprague for other reasons.. Sprague components were used in military applications.. Don't get trapped in the patents.. it is a red herring.

Several things are going on.. people have a confirmation bias, that is human nature and everyone has to watch for it.. and people are not interpreting the evidence correctly.. also, people will over reach for solutions to solve an unexplained difficult case. There is a massive amount of information to process.. These drive me crazy.. smart people still get them wrong. Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered in flight.. NOT DOWN. Airstairs down came later after negotiations and Reno was in play. His initial plan was not to jump ASAP.. his plan changed. Ratazcak was hand flying the plane.. he said so.. and he acknowledged his path on the "FBI" map. NO WESTERN FLIGHTPATH. and the Columbia River jump is debunked.. the call to Soderlind was in the suburbs before Portland and Soderlind took notes live... Cooper jumped around the 8:12 time.. Cooper was described as having latin features and complexion, that does not mean he wasn't also white or Caucasian. People incorrectly believe he can't be both,,, Latin Americans and Spanish were described as white or caucasian back then.. Latino became an official descriptor after NORJAK.. Cooper was not wearing a disguise. Cooper had dark eyes. Cooper did not fake smoking. Cooper was described as having latin features and complexion, NOT A TAN. Cooper did not know where the plane would be when he did jump. Dynamite did come in red. Cooper did not write on his ticket. The crew was not in on it. The FBI does not know if the unidentified prints are Cooper's. REMCRU patent was not the only source for TiSb in the ratio found on the tie. NOBODY plants or buries money at the River's high water line. Tina is being deceptive. The tie was not sold before spring 1964.. roughly between Spring 64 - Spring 65. The FBI was looking for the wrong back parachute. Cooper appeared to be 45-50. He was not 28. Several witnesses admitted that their memories were fading years after the hijacking. In '76 the FBI admitted that the witnesses were unreliable and only Cooper confessing would bring a prosecution. The cigarette butts were destroyed after testing within weeks of the hijacking. The hair sample was lost/misplaced. Oddly, Sketch A was mostly Tina who later claimed she didn't see Cooper face straight on.. Sketch B was a multi image process based on KK5-1 and input from all witnesses. They generally agreed on the final sketch B as the best likeness for Cooper. The Hick's placard was not from inside NORJAK, it could have fallen off the outside of any passing 727. The 8x40" part claimed to have been found in the woods was not from NORJAK.

Chaucer stated on Reddit.. Bill Rataczak stated to the FBI just hours after the hijacking that “they had definitely not reached Portland proper but were in the suburbs or immediate vicinity thereof” when the jump occurred. Combine this with Soderlind’s statement about them seeing the lights of Portland, you get a jump near the Columbia IMO This is 100% false and shows why the Columbia River landing BS won't die.... Ratazcak was giving a range between last contact with Cooper at 8:05 and the call to Solderlind in the suburbs of Portland.. So, Ratazcak was referring to the call to Solderlind in the suburbs of Portland and we know Cooper jumped minutes before that.. It is evidence that Cooper could not have jumped over the Columbia but Chaucer and others have misread the evidence and use a false premise to create a false conclusion... Chaucer and others have flipped the evidence backasswards to fit their Columbia River confirmation bias.. This is a very important point to get right.

It would explain the money being stashed for some time before going into the Columbia.. either by Cooper or perhaps lost by Cooper and found by somebody who didn't turn it in..

To shift topics... I found this little nugget in the FBI files.. a guy calls a Spokane Newspaper and the FBI and says he would like a reward for taking the FBI room next to where the Cooper money is stored outside of Wa State. He wants the media there.. the guy was to call back but never did. First impression, it sounds like a legitimate call vs a hoax.. at least the caller believes that he knows exactly where the money is though it may or may not actually have been where he thinks.

Huh, I don't see the connection and I remember that skit, maybe lawyer humour..

?? not new, that is in the Gray file..

Your suspect was 58 in '71... now 58 is too old,, confusing or did you drop him..

He was 57/58..

Did you find any pics of Milton B Vordahl

He looks very very close to sketch B, but with narrower lips and slightly saggier cheeks.. edit jowls not cheeks..

or Tina claiming she didn't see Cooper's face head on with the FBI using her for the primary sketch and the "go to" to eliminate suspects.. a massive problem for any potential prosecution. and, current Cooper sleuth's using Tina as the gold standard.. something is up with Tina, she is being evasive or dishonest for some reason. It is hard to believe she didn't see Cooper's face,, but she didn't want to participate in the revision of the sketch,, why, did she initially want sketch A to stand.. because it was more accurate or less accurate.

An educated guess or wrong? Not sure what the rules are now...

Not much new, mostly reposted pages.. "recollection of UNSUB is becoming dim" a year and a half later..

I am a natural skeptic.. How do you know that is the right Catalano.. the Nazi was 33 in 1971 and I haven't seen a reference to the middle name Angelo.. There is another possibility, a "Fred Angelo Catalano" born 1922 NY and died 1978..

Hyperbolic now.. Your initial claim was only a news article with a (shared) name. I didn't have the background info you had, you eventually posted the evidence to support it.. simple. I have been around here long enough not to take claims at face value.. I am sure you do that as well. and no I won't correct you.

I just checked and it wasn't there...

Making a claim from a name in a newspaper isn't a complete argument.. especially when two people share a rare name. You amended it with appropriate evidence. You have also made a big error due to lack of information which I have intentionally not corrected..

That is a better argument.. But, I don't really trust anyone else's claims at face value especially in an area I haven't researched myself like Alice's past.. it may be interesting but immaterial to solving the Cooper case. Claims are irrelevant, I always look beyond at the argument. We spent years debating Ulis's 10 year research/narrative on Peterson... and the Western Flight Path theory.... a waste of time.

Weak argument.. where did Alice live in 1968, where was she born?