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Tom said 14 donors on the tie, but that may be the entire tie, not the sample ultimately used by the FBI.
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Cossey said his chute had no D rings, Gryder chute had D rings, Cossey never said the handle was moved left to right that was an error by Carr. He claimed the pull was modified. Cossey said his chute used by Cooper was sage green nylon container and sage green nylon harness,, Gryder chute is not. Yes, the card for the good front chute is accounted for.. but the FBI never realized they had the card for the back chute Cooper used.
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The FBI completely screwed up the chutes... but the container does not match Cossey's wrong description and it does not match Hayden's either.. In Gryder's vid there was a small green canopy attached to it.. If Dan does not turn it in to the FBI that is a tell...
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The McCoy circus... Interview with McCoy's son Rick.. 3 hours.. Pro tip set to 1.5x speed Rick genuinely believes McCoy was Cooper, claims a family secret.. he is very emotional. He believes the parachute Gryder showed was Cooper's.. it wasn't.. He idolized his father and his grandmother. Claims jump log books as evidence,,, it isn't. Gives lots of background on Richard.. believes FBI murdered his father.. probably right. He reiterates the description of the chute Gryder found matches Cossey's description but has the details wrong. Haven't heard any evidence.. essentially points to Gryder's vids which we know are flawed. Claims aunt said Cooper's tie clip was 100% McCoys.. that wasn't what she said in FBI files. She said one similar. Calame and Rhodes lied about it. Lots of family trouble after Richard's death. Blame, kidnap and abuse. Conclusion, Rick is genuine, he idolized his father and believes he was Cooper. He has no evidence and points to Gryder's vid and the chute which does not match.. My impression is that he isn't fully aware of the Cooper case evidence and is repeating inaccuracies Gryder told him.. McCoy has an amazing story but he wasn't Cooper. Rick had a traumatic childhood and sounds sincere..
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This is it.. Crew transmits Cooper's initial demand.. "stairs to be lwrd after tkoff" Now, a little later Cooper wants Tina to manipulate stairs for him.. (that must mean lowering after take-off) crew tries to tell him instructions/operate stairs.. then crew suggests letting them lower partially and possibly locking in intermediate position. In this passage Cooper wants Tina to lower stairs and crew tries to convince him to allow them to lower part way.. This indicates crew first suggested stairs lowered for take-off.. they wanted to get Tina off of the plane. Cooper still wants Tina to lower stairs after takeoff.. (even after crew suggested lowering part way) note, here Cooper wants stairs in 1 degree,, that might mean unlocked. Flight Ops advices Crew cannot takeoff with door down. (It was the crew that previously suggested it) This all takes place before the Reno negotiations... Later, after Reno negotiation Cooper agrees to stairs full uprite position.. (this indicates locked position) Fact, Cooper's initial demand was stairs lowered after take-off. Fact, while Cooper wanted Tina to manipulate the stairs it was the crew that first suggested lowering/locking part way. It appears Cooper wanted the stairs unlocked, not fully extended for take-off.. but eventually accepted fully up and locked. There may have been some communication error between the crew, ground and Cooper.. Tina was probably the intermediary between Cooper and the crew. Cooper always wanted Tina/stew to lower the stairs (after take-off).. it is also indicated that he also wanted the stairs unlocked/open/1 degree.. IMO, he wanted them unlocked, not lowered for take-off (the crew suggested that) and the stew to lower after take-off.
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He was describing facial shapes, high cheekbones, long nose, eyes as he remembers.. He doesn't say eye colour. There is no inconsistency. The initial eye description was colour.. unknown. You are manufacturing a contradiction where none exists. Gregory got an impression of Cooper's eyelid shape.. "heavy lids".. not eye colour... You can get an impression of shapes through sunglasses..
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No, that wasn't why... it was something else. Remember, Tina claimed she never saw Cooper's face straight on..
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He initially referred to eye colour as unknown.. This refers to shapes in areas of the face.. Nice try though..
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I checked the crew comm's and this occurred well after the crew had suggested locking stairs half way.. So, it doesn't indicate it was Cooper's idea initially.. and it doesn't contradict anything when placed in context and timeline.
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Maybe, still ambiguous.. Cooper may have meant unlocked,, You need to put all the comm's and pieces together in a timeline to make sense of it.. It is hard to take one snippet without the full context and sequence.. this passage can be read different ways depending on where it fits in.. for example,, was this after the crew suggested locking the stairs half way? It sounds like it was,, Remember, the crew was negotiating with Cooper and being instructed by ground/NWA..
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There is no question that his initial demand was lowered after take off.. (crew transcript confirms it) What is in dispute is how down on take-off came about, from Cooper or the crew. There are three options.. 1 The crew first suggested it and Cooper accepted.. the crew wanted to get Tina off the plane. 2 Cooper suggested it. He wanted off ASAP now that Reno was in play. 3 Cooper wanted the stairs unlocked and used the term "open" and the crew misunderstood that to mean fully down. Was this negotiation going through Tina? It may have been a who's on first situation.. Here, Cooper wanted Tina to manipulate stairs after airborne (indicates lowered in flight) but crew was suggesting locking stairs half way.. IMO, to get Tina off the plane.
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I already posted it,, This is the first comm's from the crew giving Cooper's demands.. NOT the last.. "AFT STAIRS TO BE LWRD AFTR TKOFF" this is the smoking gun.. This is corroberated by the Harrison notes and the FBI doc I posted here.. These are far more reliable than witness statements.. Tina probably conflated Cooper's changing demands..
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The initial demand transmitted by the crew.. to be lowered after take off
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I don't really have a theory on his arrival/stay in Portland. Lots of possibilities. He could have arrived by any means and stayed for days prior.. We have nothing on that.. but the Harrison notes confirm the initial airstairs lowered in flight demand and have better timestamps. Initial demand aft stair lowered in flight wants one girl to lower stairs.. agreed to take-off stairs up
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Yes, it is all clear when you put the timeline together,, everybody repeats the dominant narrative that Cooper's demand was airstairs down on take-off.. inferring he had special knowledge and wanted to jump ASAP. It is only partially true. But, his initial demand was airstairs lowered after take-off.. it changed to down on take-off then the crew had to talk him out of it. My hypothesis is that Cooper wanted to jump further south for several reasons.. but when Reno was in play he didn't want to be on the plane when it landed.. So, he jumped as soon as he was able to.. that means his LZ was not his original plan.. and that may play a role in making this case more difficult.
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If you carefully put together the sequence that came later.. His initial demand was lowered in flight,, due to fuel limitations they negotiated Reno. The crew suggested larger airports and Cooper refused demanding a smaller airport.. they agreed on Reno. The crew wanted to get Tina off the plane and they discussed stairs down on take-off,, it isn't clear if Cooper came up with it or it was suggested by the crew.. but Cooper accepted, when the crew was told they can't take-off with the rear stair down Cooper had to be talked out of it. He changed to airstairs up on take-off and Tina would lower them.. Everything fits when put in context and timeline. the only thing unclear it whether it was the crew or Cooper that first suggested rear stairs down on take-off..
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I have been saying this for a while but some people don't seem to get it.. Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered in flight.. not before take-off. It is clear in the crew transcripts and confirmed here.. Cooper changed his demand when they negotiated for Reno.. this indicates that he didn't want to jump ASAP initially, but he did after the Reno landing was agreed... and that suggests he did not jump where he had initially intended. His plan changed. His initial plan was to jump further South..
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The parachute scene was staged, he looks through stuff finds a chute and immediately claims it is Cooper's.. he wanted drama. He is committing a hoax,, IMO.. Larry Carr interviewed Cossey and misunderstood the handle mod suggesting it was maybe moved left to right,, Cossey never claimed that was his mod.. out and up was the mod... then there is the harness and D rings.. anybody can tell it doesn't match Cossey's description. Beyond that.. Cossey, a serial liar was wrong and was describing his personal chute not Hayden's.. not Cooper's. Cossey wasn't even describing Cooper's chute.. A rigger doesn't pack 2 identical emergency bailout rigs and makes one handle hard to find or pull.. The packing card for the back chute Cooper used was found on the plane,, it does not match Cossey's description. Gryder's chute claim was a mess.. and a hoax.. Gryder needed something big. Uninformed people are falling for it.
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You are right, this case is becoming a circus..
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McCoy hijacking,, no he is NOT Cooper. but the pilots felt a pressure change and announced on the radio they thought he had jumped.. It was determined he jumped right before the radio call. The same scenario as Cooper.. Rataczak said "mark your shrimp boats" right after the pressure event but it wasn't recorded due to the radio frequency error.. He called Soderlind minutes later in the suburbs Portland.. and Soderlind was listening in and taking notes the whole time. Cooper jumped around the 8:10-13 timeframe and between about the Lewis R and Battleground.
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McCoy was not Cooper, Dan Gryder's McCoy narrative is wrong and IMO a fraud... the Cooper chute he claims he found is clearly not Cooper's and he should know that.
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Pressure fluctuations on other hijackings,, Pressure change for McCoy's hijacking..
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Conspiracy Panel - Chris C., Bruce A. Smith, Nicky Broughton - DB Cooper Con 2022 - 11/20/22
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yup, same deal with fingerprints.. I suspect that the FBI never really eliminates a suspect,, they were fishing for a match with new tech. The only chance we will have is if new DNA can be obtained with new tech.. and that may be impossible now..
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Yes, Tom had the filter and they tested it for the show expecting tie DNA but the only DNA was Tom's.. announced after the show aired... clearly Tom was Cooper. and the test was destructive..