FLYJACK
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Debris on TBAR a few days after the money find 1980..
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The money spot was periodically underwater, like a week before. Money was found in an upper reworked sand layer... containing pop cans and other debris, not severely damaged or rusted... (aka, fresh, NOT OLD). A soda can found in the same layer as the money was first manufactured in 1973. The lower layer above the "dredging" layer contained older soda cans and rusted artifacts.
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This is just not true.
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Anybody have a 1971-1980 depth chart for the Columbia. Columbia R depth off TBAR... Granted this is not 1971... the anchorage channel is on the E side and there is no meaningful slope from W to E (TBAR)..
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We all know how reliable coke dealers are...
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So, swimming in a River about 160 miles away from TBAR as a 10 year old makes you an expert on River flow... TBAR was said to be a dump by locals, the layer the money was in was full of stuff.. When the River turns North the flow pushes debris across toward TBAR.. that is how River flow works. The River is the most likely source for the money.. How and when it got in the River is the tricky part.
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Ducking what? Sometimes you just make no sense.
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The dredge theory is a disaster..... no way it goes through a suction dredge intact. The bundle and packets would have blown apart. Plus, you have the diatom issue. If you actually believe the money going through a suction dredge is more likely than being washed there from the River then good luck to you...
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While these theories are all speculation and I have a few, this one in particular is unique because it has the ability to track back to individual persons involved...
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Wrong.
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Still flogging the dredge theory,,, it isn't 2011... FBI file 88 is up..... some will find it others maybe not
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Likewise, my theory isn't well explained here in this format.. But, it fits these constraints.. The "FBI" flightpath is accurate. Cooper jumps roughly Battleground or N. Cooper doesn't have to have survived but most likely did. The money, all or some is stored out of the elements in or out of the money bag or some container. In Spring 1972, on a specific date the money enters the River near the Airport, not intentionally. The condition of the TBAR money supports this event. The TBAR money find spot is below the water level at that time. The money goes in the River as a "fresh" single rubber banded bundle of packets, sinks and is pushed along the bottom to the TBAR find spot. There is some unsubstantiated supporting information in the FBI files. This theory has the potential to identify individuals who may be related to the event/location. As other TBAR theories,, no way to prove it.
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Sure, unused rubber bands in a drawer can last.. try using one, they break much easier. PNW in winter is very wet... wet also means bacteria, the paper bands would be gone quickly, weeks or a month. But, rubber bands lose their integrity when stretched over time, maybe they don't break within 5 months but they would be weakened.. I just think that a fresh bundle would have a far better chance of making that water journey to TBAR... I can't imagine a rubber banded money bundle maintaining enough of its integrity for 5+ months in a swamp to make a tumbling journey along the River bottom to TBAR virtually intact. Maybe, it is possible under the right circumstances, but it seems unlikely.
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I don't think the money/bands would retain enough integrity out in the PNW elements for 5+ months to make a water journey to TBAR basically as an intact bundle of packets. Even in a bank bag. It is a big ask.. https://citizensleuths.com/rubber-band-analysis.html
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A second theory from behind the grassy knoll... When did the money arrive at Marine Park? The problem with the money sitting out in the elements before going onto the River is that it/bands would deteriorate and not be able to make the water journey to TBAR. My theory has the money out of the elements until it entered the River in Spring. Hey, where is FBI file part 88??
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Key word is...... Taxi
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I think I know yours... Mine is far more comprehensive and would take a-lot of time to lay out all the evidence. That said, it can't be proven.
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This is my take as well... A no pull, less than 1%, if he pulls 95% survival.. For Cooper to pull and land at Marine Park he would have had to jump over/close to Portland Airport.. not reasonable. I believe the evidence suggests an LZ roughly Battleground and North. but, I have a theory that puts the money into the water, in Spring in the Columbia River right across from Marine Park. No Cooper didn't land there. No, TBAR will never be solved.
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That is exactly what a FED would say..
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Survived or no pull..
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It gets a very tricky as there were also hopper dredges involved... I have read that material was moved and dumped up and down the Columbia on the shore and even in the River but few details.. The map and grid I posted shows the year and volume of the material dumped on the Oregon side across from TBAR but we don't know where it originated. I found one report of material dredged from the Willamette and dumped in the middle of the Columbia just upstream of TBAR.. It is a rat's nest trying to sort it out.
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Nice, I have a report about the 1976 and 1977 dredge operation, it was deposited on the other side along Sauvie Island for erosion mitigation.
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Found out the Pioneer P1 and P2 had the same container but the P2 had a more civilian oriented canopy and harness. The WSHM chute is modified with a newer harness and to fit a 26' conical. The P2 was primarily a civilian chute though the container was the same as the P1 which was for military and civilian use. Cossey variously referred to the Pioneer left behind as a sport chute, freefall chute and B-4....
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Problem,, How do the particles get on the shorter narrower piece of the tie that was behind the wider front piece? with a tie tack/clip holding them together.. Only if they were deposited when it wasn't being worn.
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I found "P2" printed on the WSHM container.
