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Only the #1 researcher in the VORTEX... Georger..

This is the real Georger, the one I have had to deal with for years... and I have considered leaving,, I get very little out of participating here.. Georger the #1 VORTEX researcher can advance the case.

Your histrionics are nonsense.. you make claims that aren't true. I never denied the money was hastily assembled and randomized.. Why do you always need to make up falsehoods. Amazing, you still don't understand the error Carr made.... I have explained this to you many times over the years.. it is astounding that you still don't get it. and you still think Tina meant rubber bands... good grief.. This is the the genesis of your problem, you have constructed a false reality based on your own misunderstanding,, and you blame me or others for it. I gave you all the facts, you can even find them on your own,, you ridiculed and rejected them to maintain your own narrative based on a misunderstanding... for YEARS.. You rejected everything.... except the error by Carr. Now, the rest of the VORTEX has caught up and the top researcher in the VORTEX has been left behind in 2011. That is fine, do what you want... I just caught you doing the same thing with an unfounded dismissal of Palmer's quote and wanted it made clear that you are unreliable based on your own history.. I am no longer interested in discussing anything with you,,, unlike most in the VORTEX you aren't actually interested in finding the truth.... There is nothing to be gained by explaining these things to you AGAIN.. I have already wasted too much time on it.

Now, Georger wants Tom or Larry to clarify... it is their responsibility to process the information.. not Georger's. It is somebody else's fault.. Georger is being dishonest.. They didn't have to ask Tina to describe the money because they already knew the packaging. There was more evidence than Tina's 302, For Tina's "bank-type bands" Georger claimed she really meant rubber bands not paper and that she was asked and confirmed rubber bands,, clearly a lie. Georger denied and ridiculed the existence of paper bands FOR YEARS. Same with the term packet. But I pointed out other evidence... Carr's false statement that the 3 TBAR "bundles" were each of a random count.. he conflated the term bundle and packet. The bundles of packets were randomized not the packets of 100 bills.. Georger could not grasp this error. Carr misunderstood. Then there was Himmelsbach, "There were ten thousand twenty dollar bills assembled in straps of a hundred bills to a strap and individual straps held together with rubber bands." There was also the 302 from the bank manager, paper bands and in $2000's... Jack Almstead also said the money in the bag looked like "Bricks" Tosaw…. Cooper money was in $2,000 packets of 100 bill each. individual packets were wrapped in paper bank bands, they also had a rubber band. Top Vortex researcher Georger still denied it... Why was this important.. The dominant narrative in the VORTEX was that each bundle was only rubber banded... there were rubber band frags but no clear indication where they were,, and for three packets to arrive on TBAR and stay together they must have been planted or arrived in a container. This heavily restricted the means by which the money could have arrived. But, if there were paper bands on the packets and rubber banded into a single bundle then the means by which the money could arrive is expanded. Claiming Georger is the most credible researcher for the TBAR money has to be a joke. Nobody has been so wrong for so long.. So, when Georger calls Palmer's statement BS with no evidence just to fit his narrative,, he is expressing his lack of credibility just as he did for years with the money... Now that the money packaging has reached critical mass amongst the Vortex members rather than just me,, Georger cracks... the evidence hasn't changed only peer pressure.

Palmer report Fragments and money in top six - eight inch layer... If Palmer believed fragments were legitimately found over 3 feet deep, he would have said so. Palmer believed the fragments found at 3 ft depth was caused by digging operations.

I'd suggest you haven't been paying attention. How can anyone have credibility when they get everything wrong over the years. He spent years denying the paper bands, even made up evidence claiming Tina was asked and meant rubber bands and he has spent years denying there was a difference between bundles and packets... He could never understand the difference... and what it meant to TBAR.. Credibility,,,,, the guy was lost. He probably still denies paper bands or packets. Georger couldn't grasp the diatom evidence.. He attacked Tom Kaye, he attacked me for helping Tom. Georger got very little right... he grabbed a narrative early and just denied and riduculed all evidence that contradicted it. That isn't a researcher. He claims the quote from Palmer is BS, but Georger has no evidence or authority to make that claim. He just doesn't like that it doesn't fit his theory. Georger makes up stuff, he is not reliable.. I was the one who got the money find right over the years, Georger and most everyone else had it wrong.. Georger and R99 complained back then to Shutter, who told me to shut up about the TBAR money even though I was correct... they were wrong and tried to get me kicked off the forum. Sure, that sounds like a credible researcher. Georger has no credibility. I don't of anyone else in the Vortex who has just made up evidence and been so wrong.. it is though he is stuck in 2011.

Right,, ever wonder why you have little credibility in this case.. you have earned it.

We have gone over this many times...

This is false.. the FBI never identified all the serial numbers initially, they only estimated the bill total. The new numbers identified from fragments were not new bills.. but just existing bills that were unidentified from partials. The FBI had a list of the serial numbers in order as given to Cooper. So, 3 packets of 100 bills.. If a single identified serial number or partial fell outside those parameters they would know. One bundle was missing about 10 bills,,, plus the deterioration of the found packets made up the fragments found... I remember one frag found by the FBI had a serial number.. Palmer said the frags found 3 ft deep were likely moved from the digging process.. If the bundle was 5 packets, how do you get rubber band frags attached to two bundles,, the packets in the middle would have to have deteriorated or washed away.. It was most likely 3 packets in one rubber banded bundle. The question is.. were there more bundles?

I have been saying this for years... only now is it reaching critical mass. The money arrived as it was given to Cooper in the same order in one single rubber banded bundle of several packets.. as the rubber bands deteriorated the packets separated slightly. There were no sides to the money, only the top and bottom of the bill packets. One packet was missing some bills.. Rubber bands could never have been "intact"... there were fragments stuck to the top or bottom bill. The reports were that the bundles were randomized,,, not in the FBI docs but if so then it may have been only three packets.. this is most likely for rubber bands to be on two of the three packets. If it were five packets then two of the middle packets would have to disappear. Conclusion, a rubber banded bundle of packets (likely 3) landed on TBAR in the order and packaging as it was given to Cooper.... it might have been in a container, might might have been with other bundles but it did not have to be placed or buried to have all three packets together. A bundle of ransom money got separated from Cooper at some point..

Since ARINC was a just a data protocol.. frequencies were assigned to different entities and clearly in December 1970 frequency 131.9 and 131.8 were ARINC assigned to "Air Carrier"... I don't see why NWA frequency 131.9 can't also use the ARINC protocol.

ARINC has many different assignments.. Circa December 1970.. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19710016444/downloads/19710016444.pdf 131.9 is an Air Carrier assignment... that would be NWA. 131.8 is also Air Carrier..

That is what the FBI concluded,

Another variable is the money Cooper offered the stews.. that may have altered a bundle size.

Packets were $2000 each x 5 - $10,000 per bundle. Grinnel made some errors, there were reports of randomized bundles,, if so there could have been 3 packet bundles. Rubber band frags were on two of the three packets, that indicates a top and bottom packet and only 3 in the bundle. If it was a 5 packet bundle then two of the middle packets would have to have washed away,, unlikely. Given all the evidence, it was most likely a 3 packet bundle.

New Cooper book... November. https://www.amazon.ca/Hijacking-American-Flight-119-Skyjacking/dp/0197695752/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9780197695753&linkCode=qs&qid=1694316530&s=books&sr=1-1 https://books.google.ca/books?id=uvPUEAAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PA274&dq=flight+119+skyjacking&hl=en&source=newbks_fb&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=flight 119 skyjacking&f=false

Of course he would say it to ATC because they had the radar screen.. and they do mention the stairs at times in those comms.. It should have been here but there are two issues,, there appears to be redactions and there is that 14 minute gap in the handoff between R2 and R5... was it actually redacted or was there a comm issue.. There was some discussion about 305 getting passed to the wrong controller.. is that the gap, is that when Rataczak said it?? I believe he said it, otherwise it is a significant lie.. for no reason,,, that isn't Rataczak, there is no motive or evidence that he would lie or did lie.. He may have replaced "radar screen" with "shrimp boat" later but the meaning is the same. R2 asks 305 to go to 133.9.. in error.

I know, I just found evidence that it was Scott, not Rataczak in Reno.. you weren't sure. "Take leave" is a common phrase for aircrew.. it was actually used twice in Reno. Scott saying it in Reno has nothing to do with Rataczak saying it earlier or not.

Looks like it was Scott that said it in Reno.. not Rataczak. Nov 26, 1971 multiple news reports... The Pilot of the Northwest airlines Boeing 727 said he believed the Hijacker a took leave of us in the Woodland. Wash., area 25 Miles North of here (Portland) As the plane flew Low and slow from Seattle to Reno. Why would the pilot claim on the 26th that Cooper jumped near Woodland if they were earlier claiming he jumped in the suburbs of Portland.. it only make sense if they were giving a range between last contact and the Soderlind call before Portland. They weren't saying Cooper jumped in the suburbs of Portland,, they were saying that was the call to Soderlind inferring he jumped before that call but after last contact at 8:05. They didn't know where Cooper jumped but they had a range based on events that were time marked.

I can't say until I have gone through it but it was one of stories published in Spanish by a Mexican publisher for Latin America..

I have lots of Dan Cooper comics and studied them carefully for any Cooper connections but today another came in the mail... a very unique Dan Cooper comic that I had recently discovered its existence...

That quote is Rataczak.. I just transcribed him from the video. Watch the vIdeo. Rat also said he regretted them (the crew) not marking their location,,, NOT asking ATC to mark their radar.

What are you doing, you are spouting nonsense now, nobody claimed the plane was flying sideways, clearly you have no understanding of this simple issue. And, you are wrong,, there is no evidence that winds aloft between about Ariel and Battleground were W-SW.. Wind was an estimate.. The FBI admitted that they used Portland and Salem as a proxy. The wrong time and place. The winds were shifting. We don't know what the winds were when and where Cooper jumped. Not Tom's balloon data, not the FBI file data. The winds were SW to SE where Cooper jumped.. it was shifting in the area. The point is we don't know the wind direction for certain. I just remembered that I know a current commercial pilot,, I'll ask him. You are aren't helping. So, just forget about it.

You haven't explained anything,,, I was asking you a simple question. The FBI estimated a W to SW wind,, that is a sidewind.. the plane was flying slightly SSE between about Ariel and Battleground. Evidence indicates that wind was shifting between SW and SE during the stretch. My question is would the wind have any effect on the path Rataczak took hand flying a dirty jet.. would the wind push the jet East, would Rataczak fly straight into the wind or what...

It is called logic... you can't claim an unknown is evidence. You can speculate what was redacted.. but the fact that there was a redaction isn't evidence. If that were the standard we would have thousands of Reca's....