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One angle that just hit me is the cigarettes.. I have never smoked but smokers need their hits.. When Cooper jumped what was his cigarette supply?? What was the time span for his on hand supply?? Imagine this scenario,,, Cooper using the railroad tracks to get out of the area.. he was low on cigarettes, at least not enough to get through the night. He sees a grocery store and breaks in for cigarettes... then grabs a few other items. Wherever Cooper landed he may have had a limited supply of cigarettes..
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A few things about Heisson.. First, the FBI files never named it, we assume it is the Heisson store.. probably is. and robbing a rural grocery store for survival rations at 11:30PM while escaping along the tracks fits a fugitive fine. Claiming he wouldn't do that to reject it is silly. But, I don't have an opinion on Heisson,, there just isn't enough evidence to go one way or the other on it.
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The paid hitchhiker scenario has come up before.. But the paper or rubber bands wouldn't hold till spring..
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Boots were not stolen... "survival rations" were. At 11:30PM, dark and isolated.
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It is 10 miles as the crow flies but almost 17 miles by road, that is more like a 4 hour walk.. seems unlikely Cooper could walk that unless he hitched a ride to La Center??
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I heard that before.. I thought it was unconfirmed.
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Why, was it solved..
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Yes, West.. it is 10 miles from Heisson store. Heisson was 11:30 and the house intruder was around midnight.. those times are likely estimates.. a 10 mile walk is 2.5 hours. Either he hitched a ride or those times are actually further apart.. or maybe they are unrelated.
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G the target of the testing is the inside (edge) of the pocket... not the outside of the chute. The chute is the property of the museum.. A lab indicated that fingerprint powder could destroy DNA. The question was whether the card was finger printed and therefore could have contaminated the inside of the pocket. That is all.
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Not specific, just inquiring if any was used on the cards.
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This is interesting... This guy had an intruder outside his rural home, about 5 miles south of Woodland.. I tracked his past (family home) address to Paradise Point, Clark, Washington about 5 miles south of Woodland - this is about 3 miles East of the flightpath at the 8:12 mark on the map.. If the wind was SE in that area Cooper would have landed very close to this spot.
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I see no evidence of print powder on the card..
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Not giving up much... Coffelt, Coffelt, Coffelt... They reveal the placard location blueprints but they are unreadable.. Previous files said the placard was on the outside..
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Himmelsbach book p 48 Rataczak flew plane by hand the entire trip from Seattle, not wanting.. automatic pilot. Rataczak was flying, not Scott.
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Lawyers, never answer a question.. If you don't care about the DZ or flightpath than why are you here.. What is your interest or goal for this case. You know, agenda?
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My agenda is the truth,, What is yours?
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Everyone has an agenda..
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All I know is that my jump scenario fits all the evidence/information.. I don't have to reject multiple claims by Rataczak, I don't have to move the flightpath, I don't have to shift the map times, I don't have to reject the oscillation/bump conclusions by the FBI, I don't have to redefine the term suburb.... and that gives me a 90% confidence that Cooper jumped between the Lewis and about Battleground.. but most likely close to the 8:11-8:12 + /- marks on the "FBI" map. I have seen no evidence that this can't be correct. and I have studied many alternate scenarios but have always come back to this one.
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You are overcomplicating this. Campbell wanted to get from Rataczak where he believed Cooper jumped. He asked about the oscillation. This was the presumed jump time. Rataczak only had two parameters, before and after the oscillations. Those events that could be time checked and narrow down Cooper's jump time. First, the last comm with Cooper at 8:05. Ratascak did not know about the 8:10-12 times at this point. He knew Cooper was on the plane during that last Comm. and the call to Soderlind which was shortly after the jump/oscillation and he thought would be time stamped. He believed it was 5-10 minutes later in the suburbs. These two events could be time checked to narrow down Cooper's jump. He just conveyed those two parameters... Rataczak may not have even known the 8:05 time exactly, it could have been added by Campbell, but he knew that Cooper jumped in between those two events.
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You are having your cake and eating it too... If the suburbs from a jet could be all of Clark County then the term suburb in regards to Cooper's jump is meaningless.. If he claimed Cooper jumped in the suburbs aka Clark County then that also supports the 8:10-8:12 jump.. People are using the suburb comment to move the jump further South from the 8:10-12 time. He also said before "Portland proper"... I believe the suburbs meant Battleground to Vancouver..
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The FBI scenario is wrong.. the map time is wrong and multiple claims from Rataczak are wrong. It is almost like a Beyesian analysis.. the better a theory fits the evidence the more likely.. the more rejected the less reliable. We don't have all the facts so we are trying to get to the truth by applying probabilities to the information/evidence we have.
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Sure, he was trying to pinpoint the oscillation, the presumptive jump time. He clearly gave a parameter, that is the only references he had. The last contact and the Soderlind call. None of this in quotes. so it is Campbell's paraphrasing. We know Rat said Cooper jumped about 25 miles N of Portland. That doesn't match the suburbs.
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It was 5-10 mi after 8:05.. before the call. I don't agree with your minute adjustment to the map.. but I do think there is a 1 minute + - error rate in the "FBI" map. Look at the spacing between the minute plots, the gaps between the plots are nowhere close to consistent as you would expect for a jet.. Your 8:15-8:16 DISTANCE is EQUAL TO 8:16-8:18 , DOUBLE THE DISTANCE. This is impossible. Jet didn't go double the speed. that spacing indicates that those plots are not very accurate. When I did an analysis I found that the plots were very off but that they equalized over distance.. meaning that individually they are imprecise but over distance the aircraft speed is consistent. The plot distances all average to an accurate speed but individually are off. The missing 8:04 doesn't change the speed over distance, that tells us it is a rounding artifact, not a missing time. When you look at 7:59 - 8:03 the spacing is significantly larger than it should be relative to other spacing before and after.. 8:07 - 8:08 is way off Clearly the plots are not precise times but rounded off to the minute.. and that rounding happened to go down for 8:03 then up for 8:05.. The missing 8:04 is caused by rounding not an error in the subsequently marked numbers. My approach is to try to fit a likely scenario into all available information, a best fit thing. My jump scenario fits all the information without the need to reject anything. You rely on almost everything being an error or misunderstood.
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Makes perfect sense. He is clearly giving a parameter for the jump/oscillations. Rataczak is giving a parameter from his perspective at the time, a range that Cooper jumped/oscillations.. Between last contact at 8:05... and the call to Soderlind. He knows he called Soderlind shortly after the oscillations/jump but doesn't know the exact time so he says 5-10 min later.. but the company should have the exact time logged. For years I did read it the other way because everyone else did but it all makes sense with Ratazcak's other statements and other case info. 805 last contact 810-12 oscillation/jump 813-15 (roughly) call to Soderlind in suburbs of Portland