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Everything posted by FLYJACK
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yup, but I don't believe he planned a PNW jump... it was due to Reno being in play.
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On Cooper's drink(s)... Bourbon and 7up Tosaw said two drinks.. He was charged $18,, and drinks were $1 Darren actually figured this out,, It was one glass/cup with two ounces/drinks..
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I kind of agree Cooper would likely have arrived at PDX with smokes and matches... though not certain it is less likely he bought them at PDX. It would have been interesting if Tina said how full the cigarette pack was..
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It is typical that matches are grabbed with a new pack of cigarettes.. If the ICS matches ran out early they were "old"... not purchased with the cigarettes. The Sky Chefs might have been the ones Tina grabbed, not really clear and Cooper may have bought both matches and cigs at the airport though the FBI checked that. If Cooper did not get the matches from Tina or the Portland airport, it suggests he flew into Portland Airport. It doesn't prove it but it that would be the most likely scenario. Both matches were available at airports and flights. UAL ran 727's into Portland. Speculation,, Cooper got the Raleigh's and Sky Chefs on earlier at an airport or UAL Boeing 727 flight into Portland but aborted the hijacking for some reason.. Tried flight 305. This is my #1 theory for Cooper getting to PDX. The matchbook doesn't prove it but it supports it.
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You missed the point.. people typically pick up matchbooks when they buy cigarettes. The first matchbook ran out before the cigarette pack. So, it was an "old" book. not grabbed with the pack of Raleigh's. If the Sky Chefs book was not supplied by Tina then it was a new book supplied by Cooper and he likely picked it up when he last bought cigarettes. So, it is most likely the Sky Chef matchbook (if not supplied by Tina) was grabbed when Cooper bought the Raleigh's.. And Sky Chefs were available in Airport lounges, hotels and on many airlines flights as well Cigarettes. If Tina didn't supply that Sky Chefs book and Cooper didn't buy the Raleigh's at the Portland airport then it indicates he probably flew into Portland.
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yup, I have identified the museum rig container as an early 1940's Pioneer P1 B-24... it was primarily sold to the public but some military pilots used it. The canopy and harness were updated. The NB-6's were a mid 50's rig.. Hayden thought his chutes were similar.. So the chute container Cooper used was likely a WW2 era olive drab military version... there were many very similar rigs manufactured.
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Cigarettes were available on plane flights.. Cooper didn't get them from flight 305... he could have obtained them and the matches from a previous flight. Sky Chefs was owned by United Airlines. There was a United Airlines flight on a 727 to Portland earlier in the day.. What if Cooper took a UAL flight on a 727 to Portland earlier in the day but aborted the hijacking, then in Portland took the opportunity to try flight 305 to Seattle. He never left the airport.
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It is a big one... 60 years gone. it was just recovered but I am leaving it up to them to go public with the story.
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The cigarette vending machine is a dead end... we can't determine anything from it. It didn't even have Raleigh's at the time of the image.. (just the Raleigh ad) BTW,, I have never been a smoker but my father was and I remember him using these machines,, I have a vague recollection of matches being available through one of the selections,, could that last one #13 be matches???
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This parachute thing is complex,,, Cossey claimed the chute left behind was described to him after the plane landed, but not confirmed anywhere. He was interviewed in person at the FBI office on the 26th.. the FBI had the packing card for the Museum chute. There was no detailed description from Cossey for the museum chute early, it was from Hayden. Cossey even later described it as his sport rig and that it was returned to him. It was not. Hayden described the missing back chute as olive drab and tan cotton harness.. Cossey described it as sage green nylon and sage green nylon harness, NB6's are sage green.. not olive drab. Also, the details from the packing card for the missing back chute don't match Cossey's description. But the key is that Cossey had nothing to do with obtaining the chutes from Hayden. He did not know the back chutes were from Hayden until days later. Cossey was contacted and arraigned for all 4 chutes to be picked up from Issaquah. Emrich was to send all 4 but was contacted and told they had secured the backs and only send the two fronts.. Cossey would not be aware of this and assumed his back chutes were used by Cooper. He would have learned of his error within a day or so, but never corrected it. He never supplied his packing records, there is no corroboration for Cossey's NB6 claim. Cossey interview circa 2010.. Cossey is not telling the truth, he telling us what he believed at the time.
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Not Parliament.. or Embassy.. 1 Kool 2 Marlboro menthol 3 Lucky Strike 4 L & M 5 Kent 6 Salem 7 Newport Menthol 8 Pall Mall 9 Viceroy ?? 10 Marlboro 100 (lights?) 11 Belair 12 Tareyton 13 Doesn't look like the machine offers Raleigh's.. the Raleigh/Belair sign at top is just an ad, the TRUE cigs aren't offered either. At least at the time this image was taken.
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I have a couple different ones.. but haven't finished. Hahneman's regular brand was not B&H.. He probably ordered them because they were a premium brand not available in Honduras. McCartney's Hofner was found about a year ago in a local pub owner's attic.
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No, we don't know that Raleigh's were his go to brand.. If Cooper regularly smoked a brand not available or potentially sold out he may have defaulted to Raleigh's... I'll go through them when I get more time... I found another missing guitar,, a big one.
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Interesting.. here is a task... Identify all the 13 brands available.
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20 cigarettes per pack and 20 matches per book..
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Right.. so smokers grab matches when they buy cigarettes.. The ICS matchbook was depleted before the Raleigh's, not grabbed when the Raleigh's were purchased, that means Cooper likely bought the Raleigh's and grabbed the Sky Chefs matchbook at the same time (if it didn't come from Tina). But, Cooper paid for his drink with a 20... Cooper likely bought the Raleigh's and grabbed the Sky Chefs matchbook at the same place.
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This is typical for this case.. vague and inconclusive. I don't know what to think.. the FBI believed the matchbook came from elsewhere but if Tina grabbed another matchbook then there were three... if Tosaw was accurate on that point. The FBI could have misunderstood Tina.. But, the bottom line researching the Sky Chefs matchbook is that they were likely available in hotels, lounges and on flights.. if it was not from Tina or Portland Airport then it suggests Cooper flew into Portland and he was not a local.
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Yes, two of them are about sketch B.. But the stew comments are not the cause for sketch B, the real point is that the FBI was wasting time with suspects who were too young or not a swarthy/latin complexion. They felt the sketch was not getting good tips.. It was suggested to have the sketch artist reconnect with the stews to create a better sketch.
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Sky Chef lounge at PDX?
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So, the obvious question is,, was the Sky Chef matchbook available on NORJAK and did Tina grab those. Tosaw claimed she grabbed "company" matches.
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This is the reason sketch B was created.. Sketch A looked too young and lacked 'latin" complexion. Agents were wasting time with suspect leads that were too young or the wrong complexion.
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The "Sky Chef" matches... Where did they come from,, answer,, almost anywhere,, hotels, plane flights and restaurants. Possibly even NorthWest Airlines. Tina reached to grab company matches,, were those the Sky Chef ones?? Was Sky Chef the inflight catering for NW.. maybe. Could Cooper have obtained them on another Sky Chef catered flight to Portland?? Sky Chef was a subsidiary of American Airlines, they had inflight catering contracts on 30 airlines as well as airport locations and hotel deals.. July 1971. I have been trying to figure out if NorthWest had used Sky Chef.. AI says "yes" but that needs verification. Was Sky Chef the NW catering service and did they supply Sky Chef matchbooks?? Restaurant locations.. undated.
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I think c99acer is arguing that the money went to Cooper in single packets and the rubber bands were added before the money landed on TBAR... There is no evidence or argument to support this.. all the evidence indicates the money went to Cooper in bundles of packets.. It is not confirmed if they were randomized or in 5's.
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FBI files have Cooper in the Lav for several minutes.. not 45.. Lauren Peterson is not credible so it is hard to know what if anything he says is true..
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No, you are wrong, the FBI said they weren't commenting on the packaging, it was hold back info because only Cooper would know. So, there were no packaging statements made prior to the find. Claiming there was no info before the find supports your argument is nonsense. Tina did not claim no rubber bands, a misinterpretation of her 302. Her "small package" claim is subjective, not meaningful. Agent Pringle and Baker said at the time of the find the money was initially in bundles.. A witness said the money in the bag looked like bricks aka bundles. The bank guys claimed it was kept in bundles. You really have no argument.. clinging to a misread of Tina's vague 302 isn't convincing.. I don't really get why you think the money was not given to Cooper in bundles. There is no support at all for that position.