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7:42 light was on.. this only means lever is moved from detent. not that stairs are open. Tina sees stair light go on in cockpit. Probably about 8:00.. So, how can the stair light go on twice.. only one way, 7:42 Cooper moved the lever from the lock detent, light comes on, the stairs did not open because he didn't press the button and hold it forward. Cooper told the crew to slow down.. didn't make a difference because it wasn't the speed. About 8:00-8:05 Cooper returned the lever to the locked detent and the light went out, then tried to lower again, this time successfully and Tina saw the stair light go on again. 8:05 Cooper said everything OK.. 8:09-10 descends stairs.. About 8:11 jumps. That light does not indicate fully extended, it indicates lever moved from locked detent position.

This is wrong... the speed did not keep the airstairs from opening. Mac was going 100 MPH more and got out.

Ryan didn't say that... Mac was travelling around 325 MPH and got out,, Cooper was about 100 miles less so he could have at that speed.. they did not need to slow the plane down, the problem with the stairs was they were not operated properly initially. Mac had a small opening.. at that high speed but the sled test at a much lower speed showed a man on the stairs could stand up though not fully open..

Not Wayfarer, Ray Ban Balorama or something similar.. One potential clue everybody dismisses is Alice's claim that the sunglasses were prescription.. if Cooper wore prescription sunglasses then he wore prescription glasses.. They did take brand name sunglasses and do prescription lenses back then.

This rings a bell Ryan said I can't pronounce names... Ironic coming from Nicky and Ryan who can't pronounce Hahneman or Mazatlan.. is this some backwards world.. It must have come from somebody on FB who just made it up and you guys are trying to that lie it against me.. Not sure what Nicky's strategy is,, some reverse psychology to get me to go on podcast's by insulting me,, doesn't really make sense.. I have spoken live to 600 people twice and did a show that reaches 84 million people.. I don't talk about it because it isn't Cooper related. So no, I am not afraid of media or speaking...

I am not looking for praise.. not needed. Just respect I think I deserve.. If you disagree with something, don't attack personally or distort my position

Yes,, NORJAK did not really have to slow down... they were doing about 160-170 k.. Mac was going a lot faster.. I believe Cooper did not operate the lever properly, initially. People don't realize that the red stair light on indicates an unlocked condition,, triggered when the lever is moved from the up locked detent.. It does not indicate stairs are open. Crew reported light at 7:42.. then later Tina in the cabin reported the stair light come on (again).. Cooper probably moved the lever back to the lock position turning off the light then forward again turning it on for the second time and properly lowering the stairs.

It was more likely based on the time he was able to open the stairs and descend.. 8:05 everything was ok,, from about then on he chose his leap.. It isn't even clear he could see the ground..

I know that is why I left for almost a year, I am not discussing the good new stuff though. I should leave..

South is not a path. You are assuming he knew where he was, there is no evidence for that. The middle stuff you wrote is pure conjecture.. means nothing. But, the stair light went on about 7:42, that doesn't mean the stairs are open. The stair light goes on when the handle is moved from the up lock detent. Cooper complains that he can't get the stairs open,, the pilot slows the plane. He was struggling to get them open.. that was the delay. But, you can make up just about any scenario you want,, there is no evidence for it and the evidence actually contradicts it.. Cooper did not give a course for the plane, South is not a course. I believe Cooper did not initially operate the lever properly, you need to press a button and press the lever in.. if you don't do that the light comes on when the lever is moved but the stairs don't open. He eventually figured out the lever. I don't think the problem was actually the airspeed because Mac got the stairs open and jumped at a much higher speed.

Nicky,, What is a cop out? I have a project I am working on with others and they asked me not to discuss the case publicly.. Do you know something that I don't?

No, Wikipedia is an unreliable scam run by crazy people... He is not a suspect no matter what Wiki says.. Never cite the wiki.. Ask Ryan about Reca, he will explain it. I don't have the patience.

What safe confines, I get misquoted and trashed here all the time.. You guys blocked me from FB even though I never posted anything,, clearly you have no interest in my participation. I have been asked to join FB and told nobody wants me there simultaneously.. seriously, I am not interested in FB. It is riddled with bad ideas. In fact. I am considering leaving here, I get nothing from participating and get attacked with absolute nonsense. As for my project, it is legit and I don't owe you or anyone anything.. How can you claim I am hiding behind something if you don't know what it is.. sounds a tad irrational. I have been asked many times to do media, some much bigger than any of you guys could dream of and passed not out of fear but because I am not interested in giving away my research publicly.. I really have no interest in sharing my stuff.. As usual Nicky you have a knack for misreading the room... You can retire now, nobody will notice. Georger doesn't do media because he has nothing to say,, I don't do media because I have too much to say..

Reca is not a suspect,, he is a grift.

No, step away from the Reca...

irrelevance..

Nonsense.. The tie has horizontal particle smears that could be caused by wiping.. I posted that image. I never said all particles were from the plane, only that some might be.. not only because of possible wiping but because the bulkhead door was open with the engine right there. That is reasonable speculation. and this has nothing to do with the partial prints.. I guess you just don't want me to get them from the FBI.. you should be afraid Georger,, be very afraid.

Of course we can assume Cooper was looking for some area he thought was land or safer.. and more comfortable. But, it is an assumption by some that Cooper could read the markers, we don't know that he could see them or even knew them. Hahneman was highly intelligent based on his background and those that knew him, while in flight he gave the crew precise lat/long coords to jump.. rolling hills and farmer's fields. There are some inaccurate reports in the media and the FBI faked a problem with the plane forcing him to switch planes using the crew as cover from sharpshooters. Mac also switched planes using the crew. Cooper got complete co-operation and had it easy. Beyond parachute knowledge Mac was also more violent than Cooper. But, there is no evidence to support Cooper jumping at a predetermined targeted spot. The evidence suggests otherwise.

You are making a bad conclusion based on poor assumptions.. The plane could have flown East of St Helens and be below 10000 ft. If we measure the distance from St Helens to the coast it is about 90 miles.. and of course the plane could swing around it if the crew chose to. So, you are just wrong on that point. Cooper knew they were heading South to Reno,, that is is it,, South is not a path. You are using the fact that plane went close to PDX so Cooper knew it was going to happen,, he didn't have any control over that. The variables are NOT as tight as you believe. About 90 miles at St Helens and over 100 at the Oregon border. Most hijacker's gave directions to their jump zone.. Cooper not only didn't but there is no reason he wouldn't in your scenario. Things are not so simple.. if they were this thing would have been solved long ago. Cooper was delayed having trouble getting the stairs down, there is no evidence that he wanted to jump when he saw the lights.. that is made up. I believe he wanted to jump even earlier than he did.. We don't know exactly what Cooper could see on the ground with the clouds.. or if he knew the terrain well enough to identify markers.. I agree he knew the plane was generally heading South to Reno,, but that is about it. South is not a specific target. If he was targeting a jump spot he would have made sure the plane was going to be there. His jump spot was not planned, it was ad hoc. You keep using Mac as some sort of argument.. he isn't. He demanded the plane fly toward Toronto and jumped, he did not have a specific target.. neither did Cooper, at least after Reno was in play.. For Cooper, Reno was not his initial demand, it was a renegotiation. It is not that I just disagree per se.. that suggests a difference of opinion. In reality, your theory is not supported by any evidence or an argument, it is just made up of assumptions, some wrong.. People can make up all sorts of things for this case and they often do.. Quality theories fit into the evidence, the better the fit the better the theory. Better theories get vetted to potentially advance the case. That is how things progress. From Tina... Can refuel anywhere in Mexico..

I have no plans to attend..

A theory should fit within the facts of the case,, the more facts the better the theory. Cooper didn't accept or reject any flight path, the crew seriously considered going out over the ocean. They crew could have taken any path. At the Oregon border there is over a 100 mile stretch that the plane could have been.. V23 was 10 miles wide itself. If Cooper targeted a jump spot he would have demanded the plane's path matched and he could see the ground. He did not give a path and it is not certian he could have seen the ground. Cooper did not have pre-knowledge of the path. He knew it was heading generally South. He might have looked down and figured out where he was depending on cloud cover but he did not direct the plane to a specific location. He did not jump at BG, he jumped about 20-25 miles North of PDX.. The theory that Cooper targeting PDX and jumped to a predetermined spot is not supported by any evidence. It is completely made up.

Georger, it is clear over the years that you have demonstrated an inability to be accurate and apply reason and logic.. I suggested he may have used the tie to wipe his prints based on the horizontal lines on the tie, the fact that some prints were smeared and the tie was found on the seat. A perfectly reasonable theory. I never said he wiped everything.. you added that to undermine my pursuit of the partial prints from the seat area. Both can be true but you altered my theory to undermine it. A straw-man. You always do this,, you just can't help yourself,, it seems as though you just don't want me advancing this case..

It is really clear,, you have an inability to be honest, accurate or rational. Your claim that I said Cooper used the tie to wipe everything is false, you made it up. I suggested he may have used the tie to try to wipe his prints. That is not inconsistent with partial finger and palm prints being found... those may or may not even be Cooper's. You are just trying to make an issue out of nothing.

I did, they said they don't do searches so I have resubmitted with more specifics.. they couldn't find them or didn't want to look for them.. they are there somewhere probably in multiple places,, Maybe outside the NORJAK file at The Latent Fingerprint Division. There is no reason they can't release them.. but of course that doesn't mean they will.

Sure,, the prints are unidentified so there is no reason not to release them.