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My research shows that he took the slightly newer one after checking the packing cards, Nobody else figured this out including the FBI.

He told Bruce he thought were the same but he never looked at the chutes inside.. So, the same means similar not exactly the same. Both were Pioneers. Different colours.

I am not speaking for the FBI. I am addressing the facts. Obviously, you are going to say it was all a big FBI coverup...

I knew you were a Reca shill.... just asking questions are you. Reca or Peca can be eliminated based on the side door error, his accent/speech, the LZ, I have other evidence unique to Cooper that eliminates him.. What does knowing Cossey have to do with anything.. or jumping in Seattle.. Age, height, weight and parachute experience could be tens of thousands of guys... He is not Cooper.

Sort of, it was exposed early on in the newspapers that the back chutes came from Hayden.. everybody just forgot about it.. The FBI files were clear that the back chutes came from Hayden.. Cossey's lie was subtle. He claimed they were his, he did pack them and we don't know if he made/owned them before Hayden bought them. Cossey often lied to the media.. So, it wasn't a big secret that the back chutes came from Hayden,, everybody just lost track over the years. Exposing Hayden in "Skyjack" wasn't a big deal.. it was already out there. There was no coverup or reason to off Cossey. Apparently he was big gambler, that is more likely what got him killed.. Nov 26, 1971

Reca is probably the worst Cooper suspect there is.. worse than Kenny Christiansen The Reca team narrative is that the plane flew East, Cooper wanted to jump out the side door and it was big FBI coverup... those are same things you are claiming. Coincidence? The Reca team is only people that I know of that got the door wrong. Carl misread the FBI docs and got Reca to say the wrong door... oops. Reca a not a legitimate suspect.

Let me take a wild guess,, Based on... discrediting the flightpath and pushing an Eastern path,, you knew Carl Lauren,, you got the side door wrong,, you have provided zero evidence except black holes and coverups,, there is a new book about Reca... You are likely shilling for Reca.. Am I close.

Logic requires you actually have the facts right. You have the wrong door.

11. Thou shall not make up their own evidence.

Wrong. He did agree to the flight plan. Side door is Reca propaganda.. he demanded the rear bulkhead door leading to the airstairs open, not the side door. See, when you think you have it all figured out, you aren't even close.

That is false. It is in the files,, I was just looking at it.. he didn't set the route but he agreed to it. The predicate was a discussion about flying to California to refuel but Cooper rejected large airports, so they agreed on Reno..

The FBI or Air Force does not have to prove anything to you, that is not their purpose. The AF flightpath radar data had to be deciphered and plotted by a military expert, that primary data was not supplied and is useless to us.. I am sure it was classified. The FBI even went back and had them redo it using a more modern analysis, it reduced the error from 1 mile to 0.5 mile and very slightly altered the search area.. So, it was plotted twice, that is data. The communications confirm a flightpath down to Portland then Red Bluff and over to Reno. The only alternate path put forward is the Western Path which is claims a slight deviation West in Washington, there is zero evidence for it. So, the AF plotted map is data (plotted twice), the crew comms is data, the FDR is data.. The FBI files are NOT conclusions, they are a collection of all investigative notes, so there are opinions, errors and conflicts. There is no conflict in the FBI flightpath. The FDR was analyzed and its data was used with the flightpath to create the LZ. Bottom line is you aren't using logic,, you are using your inexperience and lack of case knowledge to engage in confirmation bias.. this is what the Vortex does to you. It happens to everyone. How do I know, because you have zero evidence and many before you have tried the same thing and have produced nothing. You have no logical argument, none. Claiming there are black holes isn't an argument. Claiming you are using logic isn't an argument. So, you are going to have to produce some actual evidence to support an alternate flightpath. The WFP argument relies on creating doubt or a negation of evidence, not a positive argument. It failed, it has failed for a decade. It is no different than claiming there is no proof/data there even was a hijacking. Lots of black holes.. and what about the moon landing. We don't really have proof.

I have an F-106A spec doc that states minimum speed is 150 kn (power off).. that is probably true airspeed but doesn't say.. NORJAK was at 165 kn.. indicated airspeed.. So, 305 was going too slow to safely follow.

Robert99 had been pushing the western flightpath for at least a decade, it is a slight deviation from the "FBI" flight path (10-12 miles west in WA). He has provided zero evidence in 10 years.. Eric picked up the Western flightpath theory and made factual claims that were false.. Everybody knows the "FBI" didn't create the flight path, this is hyperbole. We call it the "FBI" flightpath because it was accepted and used by the FBI. It was plotted by the Air Force.. it was also sent to NorthWest Airlines to help compute the LZ. Robert99 is using redactions in the communications to claim they are hiding the Western Flightpath.. the redactions were communications unrelated to NORJAK. The tough questions have been asked and completely rejected because there is no evidence to support an alternate flightpath, just speculation and conjecture. It has been over 50 years and there is no evidence for an alternate flightpath. Robert99 doesn't have it and Eric doesn't have it.

The coverup/conspiracy about the flight path comes up now and then but there is just no evidence or valid argument for it. And I think the world is full of manipulations coverups and conspiracies...

The map is data, it is the points plotted by the Air Force using GEOREF.. Why doesn't it jive,,, you can always find some doubt in everything but you need actual evidence to dispute it.. Eric has no actual evidence, he relies on conjecture, exxagerates it to claim it as fact, then builds more conjecture on that pseudo-fact. That is his history and MO... Eric's claims always need to be triple checked. It all jives to me, if there is actual evidence that it doesn't beyond weak conjecture I haven't seen it. Claiming it was all a coverup doesn't cut it. You had too many people, too many organizations and too many resources involved, North West Airlines, the Air Force radar, SAGE, the Air Force pilots, NORJAK pilots, ATC, the FBI... then they did the massive search based on the flight path. Flight path is solid, not sure exactly why they chose that route but they did and were discussing several other refuelling spots in California prior. So, down to California and dog leg over. The FBI files say Cooper agreed to that route... maybe it is just that simple.

Flight path is solid.. it was plotted by the Air Force. It has a 1 mile error. The plane was being tracked, including SAGE. 727 had a simple Flight Data Recorder and it was examined, they found a "little bob" at about 8:09. The "escorts" didn't have visual but had it on radar. The crew had established they were going to take V23 and Portland radar confirmed they were a few miles E of the center at one point.. it was 10 miles wide. Rataczak confirmed the flight path map by inference, he joked about the jerky movement. Cooper had agreed to a flight plan to go down v23 to Portland to red bluff and over to Reno..

Cooper definitely planned a night jump, Sunset at 4:32 PM Portland.. Notice wind was light and SE at 7:00 PM (Portland Airport) but it was shifting around 8:00 PM to S and SW.. No precise wind data at 8:12.. Initially the "FBI" assumed a SW wind for Cooper's jump but it could have been between SE and SW.. they did revise the search area assuming a more Southerly wind.. Overcast, showers of light rain.

What problem, there are a few things in that book that I don't agree with. Book is mostly a good resource though. This case is riddled with conflicting information and it can be hard to sort out.

Not an exact time noted, but the sequence of events was noted by a range between 6:59 to 7:41.. It was likely 7:00 to 7:05,, during the fuelling at Seattle..

NORJAK was NOT on autopilot.. weigh the evidence. The evidence for auto pilot is very weak, the evidence for manual flying is very strong. Remember, the plane was flying dirty, it is unlikely they would fly it in autopilot that dirty in a serious HJ situation. Here is the evidence for auto pilot.. FBI 302's are NOT conclusions they are investigative notes,, here the claim is the plane was on auto pilot for MOST of Washington.. somebody claimed it was autopilot. This is a summary notation, again claiming the plane was on auto pilot.. it may have come from the above claim. Now, the argument against auto pilot.. Rataczak said he was hand flying the plane and he felt the stairs go down. You have to completely discredit Ratazcak or have irrefutable evidence to contradict his claim. at 49.25 Bill Rataczak: “I did fly it and I found out that Jack Waddell was absolutely right when the stairs came down that flight that airplane lowered about 3 to 5 degrees and I was hand flying it at that time you don’t want to see my flight path because it looked like connect the dots, but we weren’t concerned about that because we knew we were in a safe altitude and air traffic control was watching" In the video/quote above Rataczak confirms the he felt the hijacker on the stairs by a 3 to 5 degree pitch. Waddell stated it would not be felt on auto pilot but it would be felt if manually flying the plane. Ratazcak did feel it, it was being manually flown. Here, Rataczak levelled off the plane and reduced speed.. that indicates manual flying the plane.

This is all there is...

Ouch, lots of misinformation and over reach,, I'll only address one item.. I did a deep dive on the ICS matchbook and posted about it here over a year ago, it was a marketing item which could have been picked up almost anywhere in the US and Canada where you buy cigarettes. There is no direct connection to the correspondence School. To claim Gossett or any suspect enrolled in that correspondence School because they had that matchbook is ridiculous. It was mass distribution of advertising material. Further, the empty matchbook Cooper took had notes written in it, that is why he took it not because it had some meaning to him.. and to put a fork in it, I think Gossett became a priest years later..

Las Vegas,, the stews were interviewed a few days later in Minneapolis for Sketch A which was later deemed poor and redone.

It was never determined.. there were no fragments remaining or locations determined by Tom.. There was the report of rubber band fragments attached that broke when touched.. and there was a report that one packet had no rubber bands.. So, if there were two rubber bands holding several packets in a single bundle there would be fragments on two of the packets.. Inconclusive..