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yeahhhh.....as a joke, that one would need more back story...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

are you just now noting the similarities in: 1 - what fanatics will believe in to validate their views? 2 - how both sides will define an entire group of people by fanatics that live in the fringe of that group? it's a start, congrats ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

This is a great thread. People are talking about the positives and negatives of the canopy, and offering advice about going down the right path based on personal goals....... instead of just pissing all over one canopy or another. Something must be in the water. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I was THRILLED with LOTR and how they did it. The Hobbit? Not too bad. no problem really - my comments are above ........ The Desolation of Smaug...Well, it's a transition movie....so I didn't expect much and was still disappointed......(all I wanted was to follow the story (NO), add some good effects and a cool dragon (yes, dragon was cool) and flesh out the Gandalf vs the Necromancer plot because it's something needed and fun (fleshed out? yes. Could have done something better with it? yes) - not quite two out of three isn't bad.....but the 1 of 3 not followed was butchered). I was wishing I hadn't read the books ever, then it would have been a good flick. OK, cool, it's starting....ok, fun enough.....nice....who the hell is that?.....ok....he was done nicely....kinda skipped a few bits....ok....where the heck was that from......who the hell is that?......what the......what the.....who the.....can we please get back on the story line?.....ok,.....nice, I hoped they'd explore that part.......who the hell IS that.....why the hell do they need to put HIM in this movie......what the......ha ha ha ha clever......they didn't DO that.....or that....or THAT.....seriously?....can we please get back to the original story line?.....ok, we're back......nope, we're off.....who the hell is that?....they didn't do that....not that.....what's the point of this new stuff.....they aren't supposed to be there.......this is interesting.....ok,....ok....... ohhhhh kay.....yawn, any time now.....why would he keep taking it off his finger?......neat effects.....what's the point here?.....fine................................yawn.................that was cool, so was that.......seriously? they're doing it THAT way? ...... who the hell is that?..........can we wrap it up .............ok................whatever, ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I'd be a bit twitchy of whips and hammers and stakes too.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

It's just the wrong stories: Stephen King "Son, would you like a bedtime story?" Stephen King's son, "NO, please no, I'll be good, I'll go to sleep now. Just no more nightmares, please" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

read my words next time - or give me an example of a doctor that slashes and leaves open arteries that bleed out faster than the transfusions ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

no, no, no, !!!! it's only america (and various misspelled versions of america) everyone else is perfect - maybe they have no muscle tone, or smell like ashtrays, but perfect. pay attention people ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

military - yes social entitlements - yes foreign - yes everything else - yes 1 - we need a policy that cuts spending - not cuts from projected increases, but cuts from current numbers - not cuts from inflation adjusted numbers, but cuts from current numbers 2 - EVEN MORE, (a nod to Billvon's clear logic) we need a policy that does take in more dollars. BUT for every dollar taken in, we need a ratio'd CUT in total dollars spent. 1 in and 3 cut. or 2 cut, or 4 cut. (In otherwords, I'm ok with more taxes, BUT it MUST be contingent upon 'real' cuts). and not promised future cuts, cuts RIGHT NOW, at the same moment more dollars come in. 3 - any program that wants more money? well, they have to go get it from someone else's existing budget. (at the same ratio as item #2) keys - prioritize the whole freaking list, see how much money we have, and where the money can't cover the list, everything below the break even line is cancelled. If you need the next couple on the list, then find the money from the other budgets. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

and, apparently, thread starters that have any value ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

all 300 million of us. every single one is exactly the same as every single other one yup - no need to even try to understand people, they are all exactly the same the irony of the original post is absolutely amazing ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

no, the spending aspect is primary and top pareto and the big boss. the revenue side is meaningless because no matter how much you take in, the SPENDING PROBLEM, just spends more than you take in, and more than the more that you try to take in. If you give the patient a pint of blood, it doesn't help it you simultaneously cut both femoral arteries at the same time. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

wait wait - we're not done yet we haven't heard the 'spending cut' deal yet. you know, the one where we raise spending in the next ten years, and then 'plan' bigger cuts from year 11 to 20 and then call the plan spending cuts over the 20 year period. yeah, because they won't revise the plan when it comes to years 11 to 20 (or even next budget) kick the can ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I thought they got their heads rolled last year when they were in South America get your own joke ... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

oh cripes - are they back in Colombia again? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

apparently he's also been hospitalized for violence and other things guy was just a few feet from a lot of very public world leaders - what if he snapped and went at someone...... Does "President Biden" strike terror in anyone's heart? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I guess you mean 'different' in a cosmetic sense. Why wouldn't you have a negative reaction to someone that is different in values or acts in a despicable manner right in front of you. so are you making a conscious effort to be equally negative to people different and similar (cosmetically) to you? anyway - I've met a few people that truly are unfairly and cosmetically biased. It's a very small percentage and unusual and obvious. I didn't need much time to decide I didn't like these individuals based on the character they showed. That's not ethnocentrism.... that's recognizing a jerk - judgment of a single individual based on their actions - not pre-judgment based on what they looked like. Others are jerks for other reasons, usually not politico/socio hot topics either, they are just jerks. (what is distressing to me, is that typically the people that seem to cry racism the most loudly and fanatically have such incredibly horrible biases of their own in their actions and words - which indicates it's not a desire to improve the species, it's just their 'ethnocentrism' in battle with the other. their prejudice against people from certain states, religions, etc are just wallowing of the same flavor) everyone is different - we are all individuals - start with that and at least you level the playing field. Some people don't have to make a conscious decision about taking each person one at a time (or worse - apply equal biases to everyone they meet - negative, positive, cautious, or otherwise). I don't think they are "failing to recognize the problem within themselves". I'd rather say that first impressions come from many things - posture, initial actions, attitude, smell, hygiene, friendliness, etc (not eye color, not skin color, etc etc etc, but actions and choices)- one needs to be ready to start with the little info they have about the individual and then let interaction go from there and be ready to change opinion until they get a clear picture of the full person. Seriously - leaning on the broad stereotypes is just lazy when the person is right there in front of you. I agree it's in there, but is it hardwired? - look at little kids - examples - little girls ostracise other little girls because the 'group' wears glasses and the 'outsider' doesn't - and they are MEAN. But also look at REALLY little kids - they don't care - they will play with any other kid as long as they are nice, will play with them too, don't smell funny and shares..... When did the switch get flipped? Was it learned? Clicky groups at the DZ - another example. As a species - maybe we're growing out of it. no matter how much both sides of the extremes want to perpetuate it. The exceptions will be the true jerks and the race baiters and hypersensitives. Both will likely reduce and reduce over time, the hypers might just delay the maturing process an extra generation or two though (I believe this, that the spotlight is making it worse, not better). the only real solution is just to take people one at a time and personal - good examples will spread edit: above is the long version. short version is "ethnocentrism and related attitudes is general, not just race - the cure to group/mob mentality is individualism" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

damn straight - try driving a Hummer, or putting an aluminum can in the regular trash, or use the wrong word for something, or say you like Bush or Obama and the job they do - religious types are nuts Fanatics are horrible - nothing like self righteousness to open the floodgates of atrocity. religion is one thing, true. But, frankly, any excuse will do if people convince themselves to believe it strongly enough and are able dehumanize the others enough. Frankly, fanaticism is one thing, but I believe the ability to dehumanize the other is even more important to enable atrocities. The internet and the internet culture might be the biggest trigger of all. You don't even have to be fanatical about something to get there. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

that's completely reasonable compared to current goals unfortunately, those trying to buy vote want to state that "bare minimum" = "cadillac plan"....and then their buddies want to have something slightly better than that just because they are the buddies ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

it's interesting because the usual subjects trade arguments both ways? (in fact, most of the people here will be hypocritical on the wrong side of your example, so be careful - in fact, they want their drugs AND they want someone else to pay for the treatment when they overdose........) once again, the true libertarian is the only one that's consistent in philosophy rather than just political don't trust liberals, don't trust conservatives ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Al Gore called that 'reckless spending' remember, this isn't the employee's money - it's just government money that hasn't been taxed yet ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

that book right? "It Takes a Village" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Hang on a minute, screw the sherriff, is this seriously a conversation where people are comparing Margaret Thatcher with Nelson Mandela? I was just trying pick a white guy ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

He sounds a bit more subject to excessive "nationalism" than racism test it - someone should find out if he flew half mast when Margaret Thatcher died... (Is she dead?) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

"freedom and personal choice" it seems that is a subjective concept one side "freedom and personal choice as long as you are personally responsible for those choices" the other "freedom and personal choice regardless of whether one can afford it or not or if it encroaches on others" hard to bridge that gap, and strangely enough, one can make reasoned argument/rationalizations on why either side makes sense - but I'm sure Speaker's Corner, with the incredible group of open minded and respectful members will figure it out soon and shine a bright light of understanding on the rest of the world. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants