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OMG I have a white boxer too!!! Your's is a cutie! Mine is attached (and before anyone thinks he was run over by a car .... he's laying on the driveway next to my trailer!!) =) I love my big white cat! 'Shell 'Shell

LOVE this disclaimer: It's important to note that certain sleep disorders, sedation induced by alcohol, prescription medication, or other substances may affect the number of almost-awake moments you experience. 'Shell 'Shell

We eventually got Canada to extradite Charles Ng after 6 years of fighting... Umm .. that was a joke. But you're right about Ng. I apologize on behalf of all Canadians (and our messed up government). 'Shell 'Shell

Now that there is not a bad plan, provided the one who corrects it is sober. Chris Hey, I just came up with the idea! If you want to help Skybytch, it's up to the rest of you to stay sober! 'Shell 'Shell

HEY! Us Canadians can hear you! 'Shell 'Shell

Drink 5 like Muenkel says and then post your work here after. Someone will correct it! 'Shell 'Shell

Go metric ... 15 cm ... sounds bigger, doesn't it?! 'Shell 'Shell

Good on ya! School would be cool but at my age, I'd be a little more careful picking a school by considering it's mascot ... I'd HATE to be referred to as a "cougar" (any more than I already am!) Kidding aside ... congrats and enjoy your "formative years"! 'Shell 'Shell

O lord ... yes ... he's Used Car Salesman SMARMY! He's the definition of swarmy like Lukas is the definition of creepy! Shit ... if they were playing in MY living room, I'd hide in YOUR basement! 'Shell 'Shell

He's a creepy little fuck. Tommy deserves him. You're right. I was just trying to maintain that "nice Canadian" image. You're right. They're twats and won't do anything. Sheesh ... now THAT was Royal-Number-One-Crap! I don't think I got through ONE episode! And just saw the concert dates for SN and alas, they won't be touring my fair city. What a bummer ... 'Shell 'Shell

Interesting that they told Magni that he was TOO much a part of the band and not ENOUGH of a Front Man ... they're all crazy. And I'm just watching that song they're singing ... man it SUCKS!!! I think the real winners are the ones that AREN'T part of Super Nova ... they'll go further. Super Nova will be one hit wonders and that's it ... Sheesh ... can't believe I wasted my summer watching this! 'Shell 'Shell

They do, but they specifically exclude skydiving. Rhys: let me know if there's anything I can do to help. Ahh ... that would be a problem. 'Shell 'Shell

why do they offer insurance to people that are abroad? Not the Canadian Automobile Association (you'd have to be Canadian to get that). See if New Zealand has an automobile association and see if they offer travel insurance to members. I forgot to buy mine one year when I went to Arizona and I just called them up, they faxed me the forms and I signed them and faxed them back. New Zealand might offer the same ... or check into your credit card (see my edit above). Good luck! 'Shell 'Shell

Does New Zealand have the equivalent of the Canadian Automobile Association? I'm a member of the Alberta Motor Association and I buy my travel insurance through them. You might be able to sign up for it on-line. Worth checking into. edited to add - some credit cards offer travel insurance as well. I think some of friends of mine get it through their Visa. 'Shell 'Shell

There is one that did. It changed me greatly, and not for the better. I suffered from PTSD for a long time after that death. Basically from that point on I decided I would never let my life fall to that level ever again. That death and event nearly destroyed my life and I'm still disappointed in myself for letting it do so. So I've come to the point that I understand that death happens, it happens when it happens and once it happens we can't change it. So letting death effect our lives drastically will do nothing but harm ourselves. I'm not trying to sound jaded, sorry if what I'm saying sounds that way, I promise its not what I'm trying to get across. O god, no! You don't sound jaded at all. Like I said, people deal with loss differently (and differently with each loss). You get through it however you can. Some people, better than others. Some losses, better than others. I guess you answered your own question ... What are your thoughts on life and death in skydiving? It's different for everyone ... it's different for every loss ... (except for airtwardo who just wants pie!) Thanks for the introspective thread ...

That's not the STUFF that's up for grabs! Sorry ... back of the line. You might get my leftover ziploc containers! (was that a not so subtle reminder that I said I would make pie and I haven't??) 'Shell 'Shell

I fully understand. Every year on Nov 18th I lift a drink to Scott West and the other 11 that died that day. It took me a while to come to the conclusions I did that I posted here tonight. Basically its that I will be sad, I will remember, but I'm not going to let someone's death change me to the point of changing who I am, what I do and my character. This thread came about due to having a conversation with someone who doesn't jump anymore due to loosing a friend jumping. I know that I would be pissed if any of my friends stopped jumping if I died jumping. I'm very sure that the rest of my friends in skydiving would feel the same way. That's a really good point. But everyone is different. All the losses I've had in my life (be it in the sport or outside of the sport, by their own hand or because of an illness), LOSING someone has changed me in some way. And if it changes you, then it changes you. If that's a choice someone makes, that's a choice they make. I won't judge them. It's their life and their memories and their CHOICE. I would never begrudge ANYONE for making a choice in THEIR life. It's THEIR life. I don't know you, but I've read a lot of your posts on here and I'd be surprised to find out that losing someone hasn't changed you in some way. Maybe not a major change, but I bet it's made you a different person, perhaps, only in a small way. 'Shell 'Shell

The loss can be overwhelming at times when you lose someone important to you....but I think you have to remember how lucky you were to have them as long as you did and remember them with fondness and love. Trust me ... I always do ... still a tragedy that I don't have them in my life any more. Doesn't mean I don't remember them fondly, just means I miss them terribly. Everyone feels things differently. To me losing someone is a tragedy, to someone else, it might be a sad affair ... doesn't mean we don't miss them the same. And I hope my friends feel the same when I'm gone (they can still bitch me out for leaving them ... however I leave them and they can have my stuff but they have to line up and get in a nice, orderly manner!) 'Shell 'Shell

Even Better... How YOU doin' ... ?? 'Shell 'Shell

Thanks, Krisanne. But don't get me wrong, AggieDave ... I lost a very dear friend skydiving in 1996 (actually, two dear friends about 4 days apart but there's a WHOLE other story about Dave!). And every year, I go to Mel's grave with another friend and we bring a bottle of wine, drink to her, pour some her grave and leave a little memento of her (one year it was the Crack Choir light necklaces I made ... I'm a Crack and I'm PROUD!, because that's what we do!) Lord help us if the 'grave police' ever come by. Don't know how we'd explain that! And I would hope that my friends would do the same for me! They know what I'm like and what I would hope they would "send me off" with! But like I said, any loss is a tragedy. I'd never go drink wine on my mom's grave, because that's not the relationship we had. I do other things for her. Loss is loss. How you deal with it is how you deal with it. Everyone deals with it differently ... and, in my experience, you deal with every loss differently. People are different. 'Shell 'Shell

Stole my vote you fucker! I'm with you on that one. But my second choice is Toby ... 'Shell 'Shell

Your signature says "boobs."

Right! Like you, I'm somewhat "ashamed" to admit I'm addicted to this show!!! But man, I LOVE it! Same time tomorrow! And then it will be OVER!!! Any bets on who wins??? If it's freaky Lukas, I'll be SO upset! 'Shell 'Shell

I think it's a tragedy however I lose people in my life. I don't think about how they died ... I just think that's it's a tragedy that they're not there anymore. That they didn't get to live any longer, that I didn't get to share things with them, that they didn't get to share things with me. That they're not there anymore. I've lost more than enough friends in the sport, and in other ways, and I've lost some very important family members to illness. All of those loses, in my eyes, were a tragedy. In all of them I've lost something in my life. Something very important. Doesn't matter how they died. I don't make that distinction. To me, any loss is a tragedy. 'Shell 'Shell

Just remember the mantra ... DON'T CLICK ON THE LINK ... 'Shell 'Shell