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Sandy Hook Elementary School in Virginia. Kid walks in with 2 x 4 and discusses school security with school officials. Cops searched his home and he had guns. Cops took the gun and took the kid for mental evualation. The kid posed no threat. The school sent letters to the neighborhood where the kid lived and folks there wondered what was going on. I keep saying lock the doors. He probably said "you might lock the door." What is it going to take to get these liberal idiots to stop focusing on guns and focus on locking the friggin door. Of all places;;;;; sand hook elementary school in virginia. What are these government school officials thinking http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/12/sandy-hook-elementary-man-walks-into-school-with-2x4-83271.html

Wendy, Here it is. Pre SLAB labeled as Student Loan Bonds JetBlue 10K 2005 pg. 68 And as I said, since college back securities became subject to scrutney upon the financial crisis starting in 2007, SLAB term has changed to "debt securities" Looks like weekender got a new handle...OWNED http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/JetBlue_Airways_(JBLU)/Filing/10-K/2005/Form_10-K%2FA/D230271

Maybe the best way to honor Kyle would be making it much harder for mentally disturbed people to have access to guns. Nothing wrong with that. I think engaging war veterans in other activities would be good. Ending the war and getting these kids out of harms way would do better.

Then why did you just do it? No free passes on this one. You just did exactly what you're complaining about. I pretty much agree with everything you said afterward, but . . . come on down off your high horse with regards to other people's commentary on actions. It's a yin-yang world and it's just as right to talk about what bad happened as it is what good happened. This response was unwarrented. The guy feels for the victim. He didn't say anything wrong. You twist things out of context. Maybe he should have consulting you about his post prior to posting to ensure it met your approval. He didn't intend to bring any attention to himself for using the victim's name in talking about how his name was used. WTF.

iT'S ALMOST MANNA FROM HEAVEN Here I started a Silent Coup d'etat thread alleging the financial guys are taking over the country and who shows up. A banker! Great. That fact that your bank even has a trading floor is the problem. The repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act that allowed banks to become traders WAS the reason for the financial crisis that YOU and YOUR KIND caused. You took advantage. Now since you are "UPSTAIRS" why don't you look out your window at all the peons, marsk, or mullets or whatever you and your peers call the targeted market and think about how you can further take advantage of investors. Ready to rip us off with terms, equasions that only point to: YOU'LL MAKE A FORTUNE. Now that we're on to you, as you fret to establish some creditability, which isn't working too good, you're not getting any more attention. Goodbye

I remember the day I got in the aircraft and flew from Pa, across Baltimore, directly across Washington all the way to the VA/ NC WITHOUT EVER TALKING TO A CONTROLLER. Now I'm required to take instruction on the airspace, take a test, carry a card, file a plan, squawk a code, call approach, not go here, not go there etc. In 10 years I won't be able to leave the house without having to file a report on where I want to go and be tracked while doing it. Along with other citizens doing the same thing. GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS AND NEVER GET THEM BACK. Never will a J3 cub fly across the potomac again.

Nicely stated.

QQQNobody is taking away your guns, I KNOW, NOT NOW AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY DON"T IN THE FUTURE QQQ unless, of course, you shouldn't have them to begin with. I"M A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN QQQIs that really your issue here? NO QQQ You're afraid you might not qualify? I"M FEARLESS QQQ I don't think I've read where anyone is suggesting a change to who does or doesn't qualify. SOME STATES ARE PROPOSING HAVING TO QUALIFY AT THE RANGE QQQ In other words, no change in your current status. WRONG. EVERYONE MUST QUALIFY IF THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED. THAT IS A CHANCE. ANY CHANGE WITH CURRENT GUN RULES IS NOT GOOD FOR THE GUN INDUSTRY OR THE US CITIZEN, IN FACT, FOR SOME STATES RULES NEED RELAXED, NOT ADDED. BTW: sky diving is banned. HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW>

Just now on NBC. Here comes the pros and cons of eyes in the sky. Invasion of privacy matters. More debates.

It's bad enough you have to get a permit to protest and exercise your right to free speech.

I must respectfully but emphatically disagree with you on this. In the past several months...in fact, in all of my decade of membership in the NRA...they have never once tried to sell me a gun, or encouraged me to go out and buy a gun. They have never once stood up and said 'The government's going to take your guns! Better get 'em while you can!' In my experience, the three top things the NRA does are: 1) Keep reminding me to reup my membership. 2) Encourage me to write my local and federal officals about gun issues and participate in rallies. 3) Encourage safe and responsible enjoyment of hunting and the shooting sports. Now, while I am a member, I don't agree with everything the NRA says or does...but I certainly can't see how they've done anything but exercise their 1st ammendment rights in defense of the second. Using mass-murders to sell guns? Sorry...I haven't seen the NRA or any gun manufacturer do anything like that. Personally, it seems clear to me that those who are pushing the bans are causing the upsurge in sales. As for whether or not NRA allegiance will be a plus or a minus in future elections...undoubtedly in some areas (say, for instance, Illinois) it may be a minus, while in others, it will be a plus. The overall effect is still to be determined. The elections are still two years away...by then, there will probably be another crisis. As for me...the NRA doesn't dictate who I do or don't vote for, but I can say I consider it a major negative when a politician's first response to a problem is to limit constitutional rights. I believe in all of my rights...ALL of them, not just the 2nd ammendment...and politicians who seek to limit them will face an uphill battle for my vote. But that's just me. I'm only 1 out of 350000000. Nicely stated. I agree.

Depends on what they're actually paying for. Are you suggesting a government paid gun welfare program to give guns to people who can't afford them? I wouldn't have thought that would be your style. I'm not for it. The de facto reality is that in order for a person to exercise a number of their rights, they have to pay to do so. For instance, in order to exercise your 3rd Amendment, you kind of have to at least have paid for your domicile to begin with. Likewise with your gun and bullets. You already pay sales tax on those. A registration fee would be nothing different. That is not what he's suggesting. YOu have the right to KEEP a gun, the state does not have the right to charge a licensing fee to exercise your right.

There are always people wanting to make a buck, especially with the internet being a quick way to get a buisiness started. Within hours of newtown some guy up there was getting donations claiming one of his kids was killed. Of course the other stuff you are saying about treatment is an entirely different discussion where only those experienced in mental health know best. We lost a good guy here. Shame.

Got press via NBC affiliate today. Mostly pro gun, no anti gun were featured . Main comment via person wearing preacher cloths: "It's not about guns, its about rights."

Like there is even a trading floor anymore. Every now and then the show a couple of guys walking around some computers trying to show its not computerized trading but they'll never be able to capture that live trading floor setting again. BUY SELL BUY SELL

Yes Bill your statement is rediculous. NRA is not out using tragedy to sell guns. In fact, they've never ever tried to sell me and I'm progun. They sell training, safety and they lobby for rights and they want membership fees. Support for them is up with 500,000 new members. Don't know where in the hell you come with this idea NRA is a gun marketeer. Do we need more cops with guns doing community policing-- YES WE NEED MORE LEO's walking the streets carrying guns. Community policing was something the states did away with. They used community policing in NYC and it work. So MORE LEO's with GUNS is a good idea. Problem is: states are broke, can't hire cops and want to tax gun owners. It's about money. Jury is out on your idea about whether or not NRA support one way or the other will have an effect in any election. Once the public realizes what is happening with their rights there will be plenty of push back.

I feel like I'm talking to a person, a very young person, who has just been told the price of his favorite candy bar might go up and he's throwing a tantrum. I really could not care less if the price of skydiving increased as a result of safety regulation. It is, by and large, a "rich man's" hobby when you consider the world at large. It's also a completely optional part of life. You wanna play, you pay. So what? Phoohey. $3,000 chute and $30 dollars a jump. More than $30 in bullets is spent in less time it takes to skydive from 10,000 ft. Thousands of round fired every year... nice rich man approach but it's not working for you. I'm just playing devils advocate. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. OK so you can accept your sport being banned due to safety concerns. OK. And you don't care about rising costs and more regulations. Seems you hardly care. Nice attitude to have for your sport. Carefree, I don't give a crap attitude. I'm sure your peers might think differently, but then again with all the straw men around here they type stuff they don't mean. You really could give a hoot if your sport was banned.

Here's an idea, have places that sale guns and do the back ground checks now do it. I fee would be charged of course but it would bring traffic in to the store..... I realize there are places w/o gun shops...but there's a decent idea in that.... That's a good idea for gun store. More revenue to the gun shop. But then again, more costs for the shooting sports industry. The reason guys do private sales is to avoid dealer fees which are now around $50. So why buy a used gun from a dealer plus the $50 when you can just buy the used gun from the seller. I recently saw a man write out a check for $6,000 to another man at the trap range for a shot gun. The men knew eash other. Why force men to go to shop. Plus the convenience. I want to sell a pistol to my kid, I have to go to the gun shop 14 miles down the road? Not practicle.

This is a poor argument with comparison to gun control. NO IT IS NOT. The participant cost of the "sport" should never be a reason to limit the safety of those innocent and uninvolved who might be killed as a result of it. THEN WHY ARE MORE FEES PROPOSED? Your "sport" should not come at the cost of somebody else's safety. Ever. That's why things like street racing are outlawed. PEOPLE DIE SKYDIVING. SKYDIVERS NEED PROTECTED. HENCE WE NEED TO END SKYDIVING. INSTEAD YOU CAN KITEBOARD AND GO PARASAILING. Sure, it costs more to go to a track...so what? You want to participate, you pay the price of admission. SINCE SKYDIVING IS BANNED, YOU'LL NEED TO GO TO THE OCEAN TO KITEBOARD, AND IT COST MORE TO GO TO THE OCEAN THAN SKYDIVING, SO WHAT, YOU PAY THE PRICE OF ADMISSION. THERE IS NO REASON PEOPLE NEED TO USE WHAT WAS ONCE A SAFETY MEASURE, ESCAPING A BURNING AIRCRAFT WITH A CHUTE AS A HOBBY THAT TAKES INNOCENT LIVES WHEN THE PURPOSE OF LEAVING AN AIRCRAFT IS THAT THE AIRCRAFT CAN'T LAND SAFELY. HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW.

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument. Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs. oh, i see. the evidence to your claim that it is on JBLU's financials are not actually on JBLU's filings. They are not on the only official record of JBLU"s financials. they only exist in a different time on a paper you wrote. Thank you for clearing that up. i should have checked your term paper and not that companies actual SEC filings. my mistake. I owe you an apology. you didnt just make that up as evidence by your term paper from whenever, with data from whatever. silly me for expecting it to actually be on verifiable, tangible financial statements that are mandated by law. You have bested me sir. It could be that as sensitive as anything to do with making money off of college kids and their parents as "College Debt Secuities" what was once on a balance sheet now has been conveniently hidden. Let's face, what better way to sell MORE College Debt Securities at the time they were introduced than to publish: so and so bought a ton of secuities so maybe you should too Mr. Corporation. I think you don't have a clue. Why do you think they want to bring illegals in the fold and give them all college educations. Goldman was at the White House yesterday talking about immigration. They want them money. thank you, now i fully understand. the holdings are evidenced by the LACK of evidence of the holdings. they are not disclosed on the SEC filings and that is the proof that they have been hidden. since they are hidden, as proven by their non existence on the public filings, they are proven to exist. again, you have bested me. Well investment in "debt securities" sound much better than COLLEGE debt securities don't you think. The WORD "college" mysteriously left off the balance sheet. Now go back to counting all your money, I've got work to do. yes that explains it. they left the word college off the balance sheet therefore exposing the evidence that they are in fact long college debt. by that logic they are also long reindeer debt securities, as a hedge against any reindeer strike loses during the holiday season on their aircraft. the word "reindeer" is not on the balance sheet so obviously they have hidden the "reindeer debt" behind the line "debt securities". those crafty bastards. i envy them almost as i do you for your business acumen and insider knowledge. its just a matter of time before they retire to Brazil to hang out with the former "admen" who got rich pushing "front end paper." once again, you have bested me. You beat me to it what the instruments might consist of. Since no one knows for sure, including you, the debt could be intruments of: bull sperm loans, prostitute brothel debentures or even cocaine IOU's. Now everone knows you've been left behind at the bank counting money and shuffling papers around and coming up with goofy financial terms to confuse the public, and didn't get a chance to cash in on all the bone(ass) money from all the ponzi's you were running that you could have gone to Brazil to open a coffiee shop or another invertment house as GS said Brazil and India are RIPE, as your peers got away with, that you're just a tad jealous you are still sitting there. Go complain to your floor manager... or do what your peers do. Come up with some papers and go sell them. You'll find your way... Ta ta.

No I'm the broke state looking at a budget combined with a disaster where a collection of skydivers impacted a school and killed a bunch of kids and the whole of the nation wants more skydiving rules. Where do you start Billvon, aside from making sure there's enough gas in the plane that was really responsible for the crash in the first place, (as not having good access control on the door at newtown) and only concentrate on the chute. All while having non skydivers support as they don't buy, own or participate in skydiving! Rights or no rights, if the eqiupment of your sport was under further attack, from which you say has already been attacked enough, how would you feel if state wants the money and says it needs to ensure safety of citizens by further burdening the use of the chute. And should skydiving become so horribly expensive due to all the regs, you can't participate?

Most understand MONEY. And most people understand the politics of getting votes. States are broke and they want more money. What better way to collect more money than to charge more fees to gun buyers and they have a lot of support from the anti gun as they'd rather have you pay more taxes as they don't need a gun. While at it, since a gun buy is right behind house, car, college tuition, refrig, simply increase the sales tax too. How will this end up: you'l be allowed to buy guns but it's going to cost more to buy them and KEEP them according to the rights you have. It's also going to take longer to get the gun after you've ordered it. And to not comply with rules will cost you legal fees, and fines and maybe even jail time for giving your kid a 38 while on your death bed--- more money for the lawyers and state coffers. Hope this answers: how all this will end up. Good luck!

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument. Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs. oh, i see. the evidence to your claim that it is on JBLU's financials are not actually on JBLU's filings. They are not on the only official record of JBLU"s financials. they only exist in a different time on a paper you wrote. Thank you for clearing that up. i should have checked your term paper and not that companies actual SEC filings. my mistake. I owe you an apology. you didnt just make that up as evidence by your term paper from whenever, with data from whatever. silly me for expecting it to actually be on verifiable, tangible financial statements that are mandated by law. You have bested me sir. It could be that as sensitive as anything to do with making money off of college kids and their parents as "College Debt Secuities" what was once on a balance sheet now has been conveniently hidden. Let's face, what better way to sell MORE College Debt Securities at the time they were introduced than to publish: so and so bought a ton of secuities so maybe you should too Mr. Corporation. I think you don't have a clue. Why do you think they want to bring illegals in the fold and give them all college educations. Goldman was at the White House yesterday talking about immigration. They want them money. thank you, now i fully understand. the holdings are evidenced by the LACK of evidence of the holdings. they are not disclosed on the SEC filings and that is the proof that they have been hidden. since they are hidden, as proven by their non existence on the public filings, they are proven to exist. again, you have bested me. Well investment in "debt securities" sound much better than COLLEGE debt securities don't you think. The WORD "college" mysteriously left off the balance sheet. Now go back to counting all your money, I've got work to do.

We need a banning thread. We should ban super models as now they're out there kissing nerds. Shamful.

You missed my point which means you doot even understand the argument you are trying to make. Very little student loan debt is securitized into a debt instuments. Unlike the mortgage debt where a large amount was securitized. its been established you are clueless on this topic but now I'm doubting your reading comprehension. My point was not at all complicated. I'm not debating financial terms. That's something you introduced. I'm debating the silent takeover of this country by hook and crook.