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Why don't you ask at Teuge what a SL course entails? A human will explain that what you thought you read is somewhat different to reality. Then you'll realise that SL is the best way to learn to be a skydiver. Quicker, simpler and cheaper. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I think I hit a nerve! No need to be so touchy. Stay cool guys. You must admit that you live in fear of being sued. Thats terrible. No freedom in that. And the "nanny" state I live in has no problem asking people to accept responsibility for what they do, as well as accept subsequent consequences without the need to find someone to blame and sue to the nth degree. At least we are not afraid to discuss incidents fully, and learn from them. Fear of litigation prevents a lot of that in the US. I prefer our system. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Please do not ever show up to a drop zone again. Seriously. Stay away. Skydiving is not for you. So glad the mods took that down. Even if it was a sarcasm post, that fuck could have destroyed a DZ The joys of living under the tyrrany of litigation. The land of the free? Yeah, right. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

My bad, I meant La Palisse, France 1982. Gatton was in 86...... Damn alz.......alz.......alz.....ah forget it!. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

......... Did not complete mission? Don't come Monday. The order of the boot. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I think you're being completely unreasonable. People in this sport need to own their mistakes. Sorry but a TI showing poor judgement in selecting a landing area is a blight on the sport NOT the person who asks what happens. Joe Average assumes that the danger of a skydive is the parachute not opening, they don't consider that they can be seriously injured through a TI screwing up a landing. When you take on an instructor role, it comes with an element of responsibility, if you won't accept that then don't do it. The time to push the limits is when you are on your own. Note: Accidents happen, no-one is perfect. I don't advocate suing people for making mistakes. I agree. If that TI worked for me he'd be getting his DCM award... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

In the CreW section it states the first major competition was held in Florida (Z Hills) Oct -Nov 1979. Incorrect. 3 way rotations was an event held over 10 rounds, at the New Zealand National Parachute Championships, Bridge Pa airfield, New Zealand, in January 1979. I was the meet director, and came up with the idea at the pub with a mate in 1978. Only we didn't call it rotations. Speed stack plus extra points if one jumper could break off and redock. The winning team managed 4 points on one jump when they managed to complete the 3 way then do one rotation. No other team managed anything bigger than a 3 stack. Very difficult (and scary) when we jumped incompatable canopies, no cross porting, V bridles, pilot chutes and containers with snag points all over them. Ignorance was bliss. The first night stack, a 4 way was completed at Taupo later that same year, April or May. I have seen it claimed by the US, but it had been done in NZ before that. Unfortunately 2 of the 4 jumpers have since passed away, and I lost touch with the others many years ago, so I can't verify the date. We'll give that one to the US. Late 70's early 80's there was a lot of messing around with CRW in NZ. Trial and error was the name of the game, lots of trial, and lots of error. Lots of innovative thinkers around at the time, came up with some interesting ideas, some of which we stole from other sports. (front riser trims....stolen from the sailing fraternity as an example) But we learnt plenty, and that bore fruit at the World Cup at Gatton. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Semtex..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

As a DZO, it is reasoning enough for me. It saves me time and oxygen debating with hotshots who have less than the minimum requirements. Time which I'd rather spend doing my job as well as I can. When you have the 200 jump minimum, feel free to discuss your intentions, and convince me of your worthiness. I may then let you jump your camera at my DZ. Then again you may show up with 500 jumps and ask the same question. I may refuse. Its my decision and arguing the point will only get you so far. Your attitude and reaction when faced with a refusal will play a big part in my decision NEXT time you ask for permission to endanger yourself on MY DZ. That's how us DZO's operate. When you run a DZ, you might begin to see our POV. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

The "should" refers to "steerable" not the reserve itself. Thats how rational people read that bit. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

The main issue in this case was the unwritten hierarchy in skydiving – not the chest strap. Someone wanted to state his superior position and the other one didn't want to concur. The chest strap was irrelevant. Rubbish! Someone was showing that they cared about the safety and well being of a fellow skydiver. Looking after your fellow skydiver should be always encouraged. Proven to save lives many times over. Plenty have proved they can't look after themselves. The "death through falling out of the harness" routine has been tested. Follow up research is unnecessary. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

A ghost plane.... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I guess tunnel operators who advertise "indoor skydiving" encourage tunnel rats that they are competent to skydive. Floating in a tunnel really has no connection to either the "sky", "diving" "or parachuting" something they don't seem to understand. Any tunnel that sells itself as indoor skydiving should be torched. That'll learn em! My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

IN YOUR FACE CQS!!! (as Homer would say) My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Everyone dies of hypoxia......which is the result of a fair number of causes. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

The only winners are the lawyers. Lawyers believe a person is innocent, until proven broke..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Most of the new brothers in the sport don't know what they don't know. But they keep complaining and whingeing which gets rather repetitive and tiresome. Listening to the voice of experience would serve them better. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

I'll drink to that! For me 75 thru 80 was the best. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

A few strong emotional strings being pulled here, must be divorced from your decision. Simple question to answer is: "Would I let a 20 year old, 30 year old or 40 year old who had identical physical characteristics onto the plane "? No?. The case rests..... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Absolutely important: Don't have anything loose that could fly out and tangle with the tail rotor. Don't drop anything (like a pilot chute) down between the legs and the skid. Things will get interesting. The pilot will be mildly angry.... Oh yeah.... And don't kick any of his windows out. My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Added a little more...... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Timed at fly past flea...... My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Prevents a possible entanglement with the jumper during deployment, especially if the jumper is unstable. Your last chance needs every chance. "Great, I didn't lose my pilot chute and freebag. Unfortunately They wrapped around my leg, and now I'm dead". My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

...lands on the ceiling, does it do a backflip, or a barrel roll? My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....

Strange one. Sounds like the pilots were incapacitated in some way. No response to ATC calls. Sounds like the plane overflew several airports that they could have put the bird down. High altitude decompression maybe, with the pilots succumbing before they could do anything apart from starting a descent. At 38 grand they would not have much time to even get oxygen masks on No distress call, although that is not the first reaction you would expect anyway. The descent sounds like it was controlled (autopilot perhaps) and they weren't able to prevent it going all the way in. Plane absolutely shredded. There was a crash a few years ago in Greece where the plane did almost the same thing, flew on, unresponsive, but eventually ran out of fuel and then crashed. Something similar here perhaps? My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing....