mrshutter45

Perhaps Blevins can tell us if Larry Carr had even been born by 1971/1972? Answer: Yes. Not by much, though. But since he was a case agent for Cooper and had access to all the FBI files, he deserves a certain amount of respect. His main job was never Cooper, but busting bank robbers and bringing them to justice. Too bad some beanheads drove him away from DZ, isn't it? Meanwhile, you can argue about how easy it was to compare this twenty or that from a list of 10,000 numbers printed on a 34-page list... Robert, you are the only one who can't understand the numbers on the sheets. what "beanheads" drove Carr off this form? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

also, it wouldn't just be the hijacker passing the bills, 10,000 bills passed 20 times is 200,000 passes... some of those bills would have been still in circ well into the eighties, but is it possible, sure but less likely.. not much weight to this other than to widen suspects to US and foreign.. agreed, I just feel if Cooper was alive, then some of the money should exist. so many stories of things seen in the past trying to connect the suspect to the crime without any real proof because they can't produce what they are talking about. they leave more gaps than the FBI does! I truly believe if Cooper made it, then things from the crime should also have made it. lots of them come forward, but they all lack any real proof. I hear story after story. it's a pattern between them all trying to link the suspect to the crime. Jo claims she held the ticket in her hand. why didn't she ask Duane who Dan Cooper was and why do you have this ticket that's not yours? according to Marla LD lost the money over farmland. the owner of the farm never found it, or the chute? KC shows nothing proof wise showing an improvement in his life style. he went from a small apartment into a small house living there until his death (with a mortgage) no proof of any loan other than a simple story. one person claimed to have seen KC wearing the tie clip, but didn't remember the black tie? his work uniform shows him wearing a common black tie. how do you fail to not notice that, but remember the clip? not buying it. what would happen if the FBI came forward and said he jumped somewhere past Portland? all these people with suspects would be in trouble because they all form around the original jump site with there stories. I'll agree the FBI hasn't been batting a thousand on this, but I don't think they are ignoring these suspects to try and cover up anything. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

how much information was given out in 71/72 that people stopped looking for the money in banks? did Cooper know this? was this public knowledge in that time period? my guess would be Cooper wouldn't have spent the money so quickly. I seem recall them giving rewards if they found Cooper cash. when was this? I just don't think someone would be ready to go on a spending spree so early into this. especially if they did such a daring crime. one would think a little hesitation would be in order? the average thief will rob your house and head right to the pawn shop. this is a little different. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The "cleaning biz" was an example Robert. I don't think the money was spent because I believe he didn't make it. you have undocumented proof of the money being spent. you know the KC paid cash for his house thingy. $14,000...$15,500, $16,500? $10 for the lot etc, etc. don't you think with all the publicity KC has received that the FBI would listen to your little story? I believe you have been had by hoaxers if you ask me. you will go down just as Jo has by never believing anything except your own work. 17 years from now you will be singing the same tune. I'm finished with this discussion....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, your making this worse than it seems. bankers deal with numbers all day long. they are around cash all day long. it's like me telling you that you have no choice but to clean bathrooms all day long in your cleaning ventures. personally I think it didn't matter because none of the money was spent! I'm sure some would have taken pride in trying to find the matching numbers. you seem to just want to prove, or believe the money got thru the system. that's reality..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Well, you say it would be easy for tellers to check their twenties against that 10,000 number list. I say check the picture, which comprises about 3% of the total numbers. There are 33 other pages besides the numbers shown in the picture. This is where we part company, opinion-wise. I think it was enough to make tellers pull out their hair, and they probably breathed a sigh of relief when their particular bank gave up the effort. people had more pride in those days. not a lot of whining like today. I doubt it would have been fun, but that's why they call it WORK added: I never said it was "easy" I said it wouldn't be that hard to follow..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

note the first 3 digits Robert, it's not that hard to search the pages. L66, L67, L68 etc. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Good point, Mr. Shutter and I think Robert99 also made a very good point I hadn't thought of (only checking 20's from a small set of series). I'd have to confirm this, but I think the series (e.g. 1950) changes every time there is a new Secretary of Treasury or Treasurer of the United States, since the face of the bill must change. So, only searching a subset of a bills that are not as common as 1's or 5's make the search not as difficult as it would appear. I hadn't thought of those things. That's why I read this thread. look what happened to McCoy. they had matched his hand writing which was enough for a search warrant. then they found the cash in his house. I'm sure the bills were documented (not marked) and that sealed the deal on him. they hope to catch him red handed more than chasing the money thru the system, I'm not saying that won't work, but it comes down to catching him with the loot. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

keep in mind this was 1971, not 2001. not everyone had a hand full of 20's in there pocket. I believe the whole thing was documented to catch the thief with the cash and used in court as evidence. the list is not that hard to follow with the letter & numbers documented. you don't have to look at every number on the list. you are sugar coating the issue at hand. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

speaking of Proving things. I notice you still have misinformation (not shocked) on your website. 1) The House - Although his tax records show Kenny Christiansen made an average of $6,000 a year or less prior to the hijacking, yet he paid $16,500 in cash for a house in Bonney Lake, Prove it. A few months later Christiansen bought the adjoining lot for an additional ten dollars. Prove it. you keep claiming there are two 2x4's in the attic, Prove it. two separate people failed to show this. you also fail to explain how an extra piece of the counter would be left over without changing the dimensions of the countetop. the apartment complex was only a couple years old when Kenny was there. what evidence do you have that it was "sleazy" they have bad reviews now, but I doubt they went to crap in a couple years after they were built. you seem to be so busy claiming other things are false without understanding your website has been prone to bad information which you have had to constantly change over time. the Reality Hotel awaits you! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

It's amazing how they dismiss an eyewitness. wonder where the Real Estate person is looking over the documents? did that go out the window with the NPR? I'm still wondering how someone could put Formica down on an existing countertop and have a piece left over with wood and new Formica on it without changing the dimension of the countertop? let's just gloss over the fact of the kitchen being removed over 10 years ago. wonder when that piece got up there..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"I never read whatever was in the Manila envelope. Just glanced at it mostly. Gayla shredded it later." Knoss 101 right there "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Sure seems that way, so what will or does it take to put a suspect on the plane.. is it even possible? one would think if Cooper survived, something involved with the crime would also survive that would put him right in the seat. perhaps something only Cooper and the FBI know would help as well. one single $20 dollar bill works well too. If he survived, fingerprints and DNA, he is likely dead by now, $20 bills in circulation last an average of 7.7 years (today).. there is a possibility that the FBI is withholding something?? i have a gif transition of the suspect sketch to my suspect (age 65-75) and have isolated a still from it. Is there any way to share it without posting it publicly for the world.. I don't think anyone can identify my suspect from it. It shows an identical shape and structure, everything lines up perfectly. The full transition is amazing. Is there any way to have a witness view it??? though the image of my suspect is much older,, they don't know for certain about the prints. The FBI among other Law Enforcement's always withhold some information. Agent Carr confirmed this on a radio show some years back. I would try to hard to match a photo to a drawing. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Well, I don't see that as MY problem...since I seldom PM anyone here. Mostly I direct them to my email. Let's face it. I'm not that hard to find and many people know where to look. Here's why some people do the blocking thing: Not because they've received impolite messages. Because they prefer making everything a public issue. It's a Cooperland thing. Guess again Robert..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Sure seems that way, so what will or does it take to put a suspect on the plane.. is it even possible? one would think if Cooper survived, something involved with the crime would also survive that would put him right in the seat. perhaps something only Cooper and the FBI know would help as well. one single $20 dollar bill works well too. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"PM me...that is unless you've already blocked me from PM's because I'm so dangerous." that has nothing to do with the reason people are blocking you. if you can't fiure it out, I don't know what to tell you. it's a sign of something wrong "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, your "bla bla" shows you are nothing but a joke when someone confronts you! people are working on things you have no clue about. why? because your attitude stinks. anything new at this form is laughed at by you. that's why things are done off line. no bickering or big heads getting in the way. there are reasons why things don't add up with this case. you won't find them on Google giving a quick I know the answer BS. I will listen to anyone who has a valid option to anything. as for you? looking something up and then trying to be an expert on it is ridiculous from get go. it's a shame more people can't see what goes on beyond this form mainly because of you. the whole problem is that fact of you not seeing yourself in the mirror. one contradiction after another... here's one for ya. how does someone put Formica on an existing countertop and have a piece left over without changing the dimensions of the counter? answer, the piece got in the attic when they converted it to a business years before Rattenbury, and years after Kenny was gone! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, you "suggest" a lot of things. most of us are able to handle things on our own. including Robert99. "Robert Nicholson is a retired Aeronautical Engineer and also a retired general aviation power and sailplane pilot with 750+ hours of powered aircraft time and 1000+ hours of sailplane time (in exactly 1000 sailplane flights). Upon retiring, he held an FAA Commercial Pilot Certificate with private privileges for airplanes and commercial privileges for sailplanes. He also held an FAA Ground Instructor Certificate with Advanced and Instrument Ratings. In the classical tradition, he started learning to fly at the age of 15, soloed a Piper Cub at the age of 16, and received his Private Certificate for powered aircraft at the age of 17. One of the three Piper Cubs he trained in is now suspended over the right wing of the Boeing 707 prototype (the "dash 80") at the National Air and Space Museum Annex on the east side of Dulles International Airport near Washington, DC. That specific Piper Cub is also the only powered aircraft in which he ever experienced a total engine failure. Fortunately, he was still pre-solo with an instructor on board and the instructor made a perfect dead-stick landing into a farm field." I think he knows what he is doing, no? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, that's not a DZ PM.....you are claiming they contacted you here. having the name on a private email shows nothing. you said you got several PM's from Danielle1010 on Dropzone. then you were certain it was Jo and removed her from your PM's. I see you edited your post....thank you. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, nothing is showing up for that name as a user on Dropzone. pointing to the name shows nothing. I believe that is Andy's mothers name. even if he didn't post a user profile should be there. I think Quade is the only one who can remove a profile. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Blevins, Is Andy Poppens related to Mary Poppins? Robert99 Yeah. That was a REALLY intelligent question. Why don't you email him yourself and ask. how did danielle1010 PM you? have you found this persons profile on DZ? if so, that's what you need to show. http://mitochondrialdiseases.org/what-autism-means-for-andy/ "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

one last try for what? you are on the wrong form when trying to put a symposium together. who are you inviting to speak? people that don't post on here? who are you hoping will change your mind to go forward on this, shutter, Robert99, Jo, markbennett, smokin, testxyz, bruce, georger etc. when are you going to admit that you are about 95% sure you are going to do it? why the dancing around for feedback? get it over with and announce that you are doing this. I think you are trying to make this some sort of rebirth. I don't think the intention is to bring in new people, it seems to be more fit for those already involved in the case. is there more people in your area that are heavy into the case? or are you looking for attendance numbers? a very small percentage of people follow the case. should Washington put there museum in Auburn? what are you trying to achieve? for someone who constantly claims they lost interest in the case sure does a lot to try and get involved? the Reality Hotel corporate office is in Auburn isn't it, I called them and they told me they only had one person check in, that was on August 1, 2010 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I concur with that statement.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Oh, pullleeeze...'close enough' is not close enough. I only wondered about it. She said she didn't and that was good enough for me." you only wondered about it, really? that's why you PERMANENTLY removed Jo from your PM's lol. time for the reality hotel....."Oh, pullleeeze." is 100% correct! Decoded is just another conspiracy show with mixed views and bad investigating. nobody puts Formica on an existing counter and has a piece left over without changing the width of the counter. no extra anything. Decoded failed to show the entire opening, you claim you went up there, but also failed to show the opening? time for the reality hotel thingy. Robert, we know all about the comments, the PDF, the poster were from here. make sure you bring that up in August. I don't think anyone knows about this lol. your average for bringing this up is about 2 weeks. make sure to remind us on 12/25/2013. you act as if this has never happened in the history of the internet. time for the reality hotel thingy again. I thought I bookmarked it, but I guess I didn't, there is another site out there. you better get to checking. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI