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Just for record this is where I got belly button from. "The guys who are in iron man shape also do a crunch at this point and curl up so their hands are almost to their belly button. ". And definitely agree need to load harness more than a lean. If I said anything about learning I was very tired. I had my laterals real short to help keep everything tight for transfer on a rig I recently sold. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

With a wide angle lens distance can be deceiving. I am not wanting to come across wrong and should have just stayed out of it. I wish I could just know I was wrong at this point so we are not arguing. But I will say in that move the knee can come WELL above belly button. In the crunch the knee could almost come as high as shoulder with enough strength(and he is strong) I can see nothing that indicates he is below his knee or even close to his belly button. Further more I only see one riser in the field of view. Not trying cause a problem but there is nothing that indicates this was a double front locked to abs at beginning of approach as described. Also note this is a velocity. You think turn would be identical on a xaos 27 or jvx? We will have to agree to disagree. I wasn't really a total wimp in that pic just because I wasn't as strong as Jay but I know how far I could or couldn't pull a double front riser, much less continue to hold it thru the turn. Belly button is a long way down!(3-4ft!). And every canopy is different. Thats all. Anyway. He really finished that turn quick to line that up. It was good work and a beautiful location to jump. I hope someone doesn't get killed not realizing just how critical that last part of the turn(correction)was and brushing it off as simple fun. Many people don't recognize where they are at in that crucial moment. I don't feel comfortable about who may be taking a lesson right now. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Well I would have to capture a still from a dive video then. But transitioning from a braked approach to the beggining of dive /turn the risers are still in the same place as he goes for the loops. And the abs are in the same spot. To pull down risers four feet to belly button..... ??? He did correct that lower body will come up to meet vs initial description. If I had any pics from the braked approach before committing to turn the distance would be the same. Pretend the water isn't there and I am just slowing down getting ready for deep brakes to transistion to pull the risers down four feet! Show me. Should this be a different thread? That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

"I'm confused though Craddock over what's bogus about double front risers to your abs? When someone pulls them down in front of their chin, all the force is on their biceps and the risers have tremendous leverage to get pulled out of his or her grasp. By getting the risers down to my upper abs/ribs and locking my hands under my chest muscles and my arms against my ribs I can hold the dive much longer and make the first part of my rotation super slow. The guys who are in iron man shape also do a crunch at this point and curl up so their hands are almost to their belly button" well....Not only do you suggest risers to abs but your initial post suggested that one riser was held there thru part of the turn as the turn started from double fronts to belly button. Take a look at attached pic. How far are the dive loops from the belly button? You can crunch all you want. I don't care if you bring your ankles to your ears, that is still a tremendous distance between those two points. That's all my point was. And you are working outside your large muscle groups once you get past a certain point. I would love to see someone get those hands in those pics to their belly button. The basic technique you describe is sound and used at the beginning of the dive by many. It is just the (distance)x (time) you are pulling down those front line groups that I have a problem with . I should have stayed out of it. Harness input has a large factor in controlling continuing the turn and is not even mentioned. Still way off topic. And I do apologize for my wording. Upon rereading I kind of sounded like an Ass. I really was put off by your bulk up comment as being a bit over the top. Sorry That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

These last two posts are off topic and just plain wrong. Riser to abs? Lol. Right. Just bulk up! Ha. Bogus manual for guy doing straight in approach. Smooth move. He doesn't have enough experience to know how bogus it is. And Zlew your overlooking physics. Take a baseball and attach to 1lb fishing line. Now try and swing this in a tight 360. Oops. How did that happen? I too can not believe what he said about the condeceding "bulk up" (and I used to spend extra time on the lat machine simulating riser pull angles) but for a completely different reason than yours And now I contributed to being off topic. Sorry I keep hearing this all the time. People seem to think that the more strength you have, the less you need to worry about riser pressure. However, the fact is that once you have pulled enough to lift your bodyweight, it doesnt really matter how much strenght you have. Obviously no one is able to pull down the risers more than their own bodyweight. Even a guy with bad physique is able to make one pull up and keep his body suspended for a while. Hell, most people are able to keep their body weight suspended with one arm relatively easy. It doesnt take more than that actually. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

X2. I took a ST107 out the door from just over 8k(high as we could go in that airspace for a h&p) 23 miles from the DZ when we found a pilot willing to fly us up in very high winds. The other two took big student gear. 320 man-o-war's or whatever they are. And me on a 107. It was an interesting demonstration to say the least. I learned to swoop on one before getting more competitive canopies but I had a completly different technique on it than later canopies. Didn't have as many options back then and I picked up the 107 cheap. Served me well getting to xbraced. Better options if that is the goal though. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I am not a current jumoer but night swoops are amount my most memorable. One is clearly in my fav five. H&P from 13k(maybe a sec delay) at SDC. Deep brakes and contemplation. A run from the landing area to the campers while intently looking for my visual line. And a serious run at the old pond(swimming) there lit by the bonfire on the corner. This was not particularly smart though and I highly discourage this sort of behavior. I was in the zone and very "on" my game and have real good night eyesight. Midnight always was the best time for barefoot waterskiing. So why not swoooping in my mind back them. Don't come here much. Was checking something on incidents and noticed this thread and my heart started racing. I can't really explain. I never got the wuffo first jump rush. But night swoops....omg. Oh..and btw. I didn't get out clean. edit to actually answer question. While all my limited night jumps(6-7) have been hard swoops, the biggest thing on night jumps is the same as any swoop. Do not feel the necessity to commit. This could be a big event(no natter how small the numbers) in that of an overload of adrenaline, spectators watching, ect.... This could easily translate into that last final commitment when everything didn't feel just right. There is no pause button so don't let pride get in the way. Lights no lights whatever. Some can not see depth perception in the day to flare much less at night. Just like some can not look straight down out of an airplane to spot. Other can have no problem getting down and dirty in the dark. If your not sure where you fit..those last few seconds are not the time to find out. Are you asking for yourself or to organize this? If your trying to figure out how to make it safer for yourself by asking here than I think you need to step back and re-evaluate if this is worth it. I realize this forum is here for advice but this is a jump that relies so heavily on individual perceptions that if your concerned enough to come here and ask then I would walk away. Only you can know your night vision and depth perception. You need to have complete confidence in your ability. You mind can not be blurred with doubt and make a panic decision. Don't do it,. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

When I starting jumping Todd had not yet returned to jumping from his previous incident. I will never forget the first time I met him after I road my MX bike to the DZ(motorcycles were another passion of his). I went and asked Marty who the goofy Todd was that was rambling on and on to me outside. At first I did not know what to think of him. In the end he became a great friend. He got me off wrong track and into serious flying a canopy the right way.(even if I broke a lot of rules doing it). You see, there were/are a few guys, including the DZO that do a snap toggle hook landing. I was impressed from the first time I saw it. I bought a rig a month into jumping with a pd190 and got everyone's attention when I started working my way lower with 180 degree snap toggle hooks. It was fun but certainly not appropriate. After learning that night about f111 vs zp and toggle vs riser, I borrowed a saber 150 for quite a few jumps until I had enough jumps to get a stiletto 107. Every one was freaked and did the right thing by trying to get me to slow down. Todd who was not even jumping took a different approach. He taught me how to swoop! He knew I was passionate and I was going to anyway, so he wanted me to do it right. Now I still pushed it and Todd shook his head sometimes, but while he was unable to jump he was skydiving vicariously through others and he truly enjoyed watching efforts pay off in other people. He never lost that. I lost a great bunch of videos when my camera was stolen, but there is one that I would have loved to post. It was winter and Todd and I were the only ones at the dz other than my girlfriend and the pilot. We came in tight to the clubhouse and landed in the peas. Todd was first with pov video. His shadow was awesome going over the roof. As soon as he stuck the peas he whipped around to film me taking the identical approach and line in. I landed exactly were he was standing in the peas with my mug inches from the camera while he fought to keep his balance as he leaned back to get out of my way. The best part of the video though is the audio capturing the excitement in the way Todd so often expressed it! It was pure Todd. He lived it. Was he excited about his landing? Most certainly. Was he excited about mine? Absolutely. But I think another part of it for him was that he just filmed me doing his approach… his turn…his line…ect... And he taught every single bit of it to me. He loved to teach. And we came into each others life at the perfect time. He needed a project like me and was passionate about it. I needed him to get me through the curve and since he was not jumping he would never miss a landing or a chance to debrief. He was a great skydiver and I learned much more that just canopy flying from him. Thank you Todd. I love you! You were a great friend. Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

We are all going to miss you Todd. Great post Lynn, I am sure it was very tough to do. Hang in there. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

"sawed off" is a rather generic term and while it is legal to "saw off" and shorten a shotgun barrel as long as it is kept at 18"(barrell length) and 26? overall, or the owner obtains a class 3 permit for the weapon, the term usually implies an illegal shotgun. The DC thread died after it turned into a pissing match off topic. I was going to mention the revolver that I would register in compliance with their registration requirements. I almost bought one for a different purpose last year, but after learning more about it realized it did not fit my need. It would be a great home defense pistol however and it is very inexpensive. The Taurus "Judge". Do yourself a favor and check it out. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Not currently and my ex took my camera. I could upload one taken with my phone later if you would like. Do a google search on it. Interesting enough while I have the firearm and a holster, I don't actually have any stripper clips for it. Back when ebay let you list firearm related stuff there were Stripper clips for it from time to time relatively inexpensive. Most woul be shipped from Europe which would add to the cost, but I never got around to ordering bidding on one. The seemed abundent enough that I just never got to concerned with it, and it can be hand loaded one at a time. One of these days I need to set aside some time and track some down and order them. Ammo is also very hard to find. Locally I have a hard time even finding Ammo for my first production year 1894 winchester. Winchester is going to make another run next year which they do every few years That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I believe the lack of responses to you post are an indication who ridiculious the statement was. For one there are DAO compact revolvers that will easily fit into a pocket and carry will with an IWB holster. As a person who does not own anything but Semi-Auto handguns, a couple of which date back near a century ago, I would have to purchase yet another firearm to comply with this proposed law if I were to move to DC. Thus putting even more "guns on the street" That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

It is a Roth-Steyr Model 1907. It has an internal magazine and uses a stripper clip to load from the top. Caliber is 8mm That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

nope, But one of my semi-auto pistols does That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I have not posted on here in many months but I will jump in to defend labrys. First off Warped makes a comment "I can guarantee you that if the safety was on, the pistol will not fire" which is ridiculous in itself. Then, not only can he not accept or admit it is ridiculous, but he spins the whole arguement into the merits of the HK's internal safety when he was clearly talking about an external safety in the first Comment. It was initially assumed by many that this firearm was equiped with some sort of External Safety. Having been around several USP's and owning a P226 with no external safety this was never assumed by me. Warped never admited making the wrong assumption and has backpeddled into the internal safety arguemant. The comment that Labrys made is being way overreacted to. Growing up I heard my dad say many times stuff like "How would you like it if I did that to you" Does not mean he ever intended to, but only to have me think of the reprecussions. "How would you feel if someone did this to you" "how would you like it if ......" Comments like this are made to get someone to think and by no means imply intent. Labrys said "How would you feel about letting me load it, point it at your head, and depress the trigger?" There was no intent in this comment. He wanted to know how warped would feel("How would you feel") There was no intent or even suggestion that he would actually point it at his head in the first post that everyone jumped on. I realize it is no joking matter and understand others point, but you are all taking him out of context. I think his point was made just fine. Josh That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

"disarmed people in IL and WI"? What does that mean? I have lived most of my life in these two states and can confirm that there is a large gun culture in these states. Gun ownership is very, very prevalent where I live. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I don't believe this is correct unless there was a recent law change. They can not have a detachable magazine and are limited in capacity. One might argue that they are not truly AR-15's, but that is a different argument. While I have a Sig 226 with crimson trace sights and a .45 SA Operator that I am proficient with, I still believe all around the 870(or any pump) is a better choice for most peope. The racking if the slide will put a good % of BG's on the run. The only thing I dont like about mine is it is hard to carry a flashlite while handling them, where this is not the case with a handgun. I have clip lights which are blinding, but the separate flashlight(60 lumens) is easy to handle also. The MKIII is a great gun but I would be hesitant to suggest it for defense. If an intruder also has a weapon, by showing your own you are inviting a shootout. Do you want to be in a shootout with a .22. Some people grab a gun just thinking it well scare an intruder off, and it many, many times that is the case. But look at the flip side. The intruder might have a gun just to scare you with no intention of using it, but now he has a gun pointed at him. That is not a situation I would want to be in with a .22. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I am a big fan of their Tracker in 17HMR. Their autoloaders don't do much for me but I have no reason to believe they are of bad quality That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I am a little late to this discussion and don't plan on reading all the pages but I do have to respond to your post. Why would the issue come up with your Faculty or Student Senate? You teach in one of two states that has no provision for CCW. There is nothing for the school to talk about since it is not allowed at the state level. I am not sure where you teach but Handguns may be banned like in Chicago and some of the neighboring communities. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Why do you think they are not. From a few posters on DZ.com? You should spend some time in the political section of some gun forums before making a comment like that. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

Classic Risk Compensation. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

My wife has a 2007 Grand Caravan. It don't think we have ever gotten 20 mpg with it. The company I work for has had hundreds of Grand Caravans on the road for the last several years. While I like them, every one reports around 18-19 mpg because they have them loaded up. I only used one for work once when my truck was in the body shop, and I averaged 17.8 mpg. Now don't get me wrong I really like the Grand Caravan. I also realise that there are mini vans that get better gas milage, but the Caravan is the most popular on the road. I get equal or better gas mileage in either of my full size 4 door trucks. Many SUV's get better gas mileage than all of the above. If I did not need a truck, I would drive an SUV. It is the most pratical for my family. The main reasons I would need one over the minvan are towing and 4x4(awd minvan will not cut it). I am so sick of all the rants against SUV's That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

I have lived most of my life in Chippewa Falls and I have never seen Meth. I am now very curious about this. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

When you find a 35 foot triple for 50k let me know. I will take a couple of them. Just the three 275 outboards installed for 50k would be a good deal if they are Verado's. While I agree that many people purchase big boats just for the fun factor(and they are fun), I would not feel comfortable running a large center console powered by a single enging to far out in the sea. Tear up a lower unit or bust a prop shaft in rough seas and then what? Swim? I have been towed in several times after tearing up LU's on inland lakes. And I am not talking about hitting objects in the water for all the non boaters here. Surfacing props can be very stressful the drivetrain and failures do occur. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

You have obviously never had anything jump your string or arrow. It happens more than you would think. I have a very modern and fast bow but if I shoot you with it, you will hear it coming That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.