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I haven't really been following this, but if there is something here in the "collusion emails" then it should all come out. I would love for these two political giant assholes to be put to sleep, permanently. It would humble us as a nation and allow a fresh start. . . wishful thinking? You should follow this and the story starts all the way back when HRC was Secretary of State and one of her primary tasks was to create better relations with the Russian government and foster business growth between the two countries. The Russians, however, had began a concerted effort (known as the Illegals program) to get within her circle. That initial effort failed with 10 Russian agents being arrested at which time the Russians realized they could do much more damage with technology. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I can't imagine there's anything to release that'll change our perspective. We look back on this era and see nothing but Red Scares and Govt corruption, intrigue, the time of James Bond plot lines but it's just the same old world where the simple answer is probably exactly what happened. LHO was an extremist, he had already tried to kill a General and then he went after the big cheese. He had a rifle that he could shoot well with and he hit with 2 out of 3 shots fired in about an 8 second window and then killed a cop trying to evade capture. The rest of it is the gov't doing what they do the worst, trying to make it look like a nice tidy open and closed case. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

This is the topic du jour on all my boating groups. The consensus is that they're trying to drum up interest in a movie, book, TV deal for their "harrowing ordeal" in which their engine went out and they decided not to use the sails because they claimed there was a teeny bit of damage in their rigging. The only risk is that if they were too dumb to fake this correctly then they were probably too dumb to keep their desalinator working and had a real risk of dying from dehydration. But people have survived worse and they had a year's worth of food. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I'll bet they could do it if they were working with 8.x seconds or 5.5 seconds between the 2nd and 3rd shot. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I don't have time to look it all up and post it but there are several assertions that Craig Roberts was looking at the wrong locations for where the shots were taken. Here's an overhead map if you want to compare it to Roberts' description. https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1tTHBhemxkuN-OPEkfqjKSb0KIgE&hl=en_US&ll=32.77941522048312%2C-96.80832985400201&z=20 Next, I can't find any mention of Hathcock's experiment aside from people on internet forums saying that he tried it and quoting Craig Roberts as the source of this report. It wouldn't be the first time that someone writing a book got their information wrong. A direct quote from Hathcock, "Let me tell you what we did at Quantico. We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don't know how many times we tried it, but we couldn't duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did." While the quote is from the book; I know this to be true because I've known Craig since the '80's and was present during more than one dinner meeting while he was interviewing Hathcock for the book. Craig and Charles Sasser (whom I've known longer) were co-authors on the book "One Shot - One Kill" about Hathcock) which at one time was required reading at the USMA) which was later made into the movie with Tom Berenger. Both authors have a vast amount of experience in these matters. Feel free to look up their bios. Already looked them up. The Warren Commission would have been working with 5.5 seconds for all three shots. Do you know what time limit they were working with? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Look at the Dan Rather video I posted. They show the times at which the video shakes when the bullets are fired. One was quite early, the second as he's at the sign, the third with the final shot. The full time in which the three shots were fired is more like 8.5 seconds. The original time that the Warren Commission was working with is 5.5 seconds and is most often quoted. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

You mean DJT Jr. didn't actually meet with the Russian lawyer after he released his own emails stating that he did in fact set one up and Kushner admitted to having attended (but don't worry, he left early)? Also Veselnitskaya handed them documents with writing that a Kremlin diplomat had previously tried to pass to another US agent. Some of the paragraphs were verbatim. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Also, some actual tests and film analysis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRsIC_7NEqc "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Considering he's the band leader for the choir singing about the Uranium One deal I'm not surprised. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I don't have time to look it all up and post it but there are several assertions that Craig Roberts was looking at the wrong locations for where the shots were taken. Here's an overhead map if you want to compare it to Roberts' description. https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1tTHBhemxkuN-OPEkfqjKSb0KIgE&hl=en_US&ll=32.77941522048312%2C-96.80832985400201&z=20 Next, I can't find any mention of Hathcock's experiment aside from people on internet forums saying that he tried it and quoting Craig Roberts as the source of this report. It wouldn't be the first time that someone writing a book got their information wrong. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

There have been several others who showed that the gun and a capable shooter could make those shots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcjKYBccoqs I don't think an assessment of someone as a 20-year-old E-nothing on the shooting range means he could never learn to be a good shooter. How many of you guys know people who were complete goofs when they were in but now they're a tactical super soldier on the range. Also "The Plain Truth" is a wingnut conspiracy website. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

When you develop a solution that all the nations in the world are willing accept you will be a very rich man. Look at all the money Al Gore made just by starting the controversy and he doesn't even live by his own philosophy. Meanwhile, here in the north GA mountains I maintain a position of disinterest. Simply put, you need to try harder than that. There's nowhere in God's clause of leaving it in his hands where he means that it's OK to make no attempt at doing it yourself. You really have no idea what his plan is regarding the human race so it's incredibly vain to say that we should make no attempt at ensuring its future on this planet. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

He acted alone. Johnson and the Alphabet agencies didn't want everyone to know that they should have picked up LHO before he had the chance to kill Kennedy. They wanted a nice neat cleanup and their efforts fueled all the conspiracy theories that have since sprouted up. Even this thing about a British newspaper getting a call 25 minutes before it happened is going to spur some more intrigue when it was probably just whatever front desk employee they had working that day who wrote down the wrong time. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

It doesn't - at the moment. They'll probably use this as leverage for other stuff. It is important to clarify that the charges currently have nothing to do with the campaign. That is if these guys don't end up with a sudden heart condition or whatever Putin's guys serve up in the Gulag. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

That is 100% putting your head in the sand because you pretend like it's something you can't see. Try this, draw a circle on a sheet of paper, that's 12000 km, the diameter of the earth. Now cut it in half to 6000 km, and that side in half (3000 km), now that into three parts (1000 km each). Now take that width of the 1000 km and draw the same height from the surface of the circle outwards and again cut it in half (500 km) and that half into fifths (100 km each), we're at the width of pen strokes now. One pen stroke, 100 km represents all gases within our atmosphere. At half of that pen stroke you're still at 99.9% of gasses. It's not until you're down at 20 km that you're at 90% of gasses. Around 10 km and you're at the height of the Himalayas, gasses still not concentrated enough to sustain life and that mountain range rises so high that it does not allow weather to pass North creating a rain shadow which forms the Gobi desert. This 20km film surrounding the planet is what we're dealing with and I think you know from skydiving that only 1/4 of that (3.1 miles/5 km) is concentrated enough for humans to breath and represents 50% of the air on the planet. 20km (12.4 miles), Ron. That's what we're dealing with. Can you see that now? Currently, the concentration of CO2 is the highest it's been in 20 million years, 100 ppm higher than it should be. That 100 ppm difference usually takes 5000-20,000 years according to records but has only taken the last 120 years to accumulate. Is any of this getting through to you? We ARE capable of changing the atmosphere and we ARE capable of reversing the effects. However, the problem is that instead of agreeing with the concepts of science that you follow in almost every other aspect of your life you're more interested in politics. YOU are in the way of fixing the problem we started. YOUR vote, YOUR influence on those around you, YOUR ignorance of the facts and YOUR stubbornness in admitting the truth. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Twitter was on the way out until it became Trump's platform. I used to make a habit of exiting out of any news that quoted Twitter posts as a source. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Thanks buds, I can cut and paste the dictionary definition, too. Not really what we were going for here. But let's be real, did you really want to hear an explanation in his own words of the heat death of the universe? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

That about as smart as saying that you're not going to use your brakes because you're driving too fast because in the long run dying of old age vs dying now is no different. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I'm about 24 hours ahead of you on this one. To summarize, an unknown GOP representative, the DNC and the HRC campaign all paid money for research into Trump. The dossier was one of the results. There is WAY more to the investigation but Fox's headlines are obviously grabbing their target market. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Straw buyer purchases and shady FFL purchases are the source of most illegal firearms. Why not address that? Are you interested in keeping firearms out of the criminal market or do you just want to win internet arguments? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Correct, religious extremism has no place in this country so when it raises it's head we smack it back down. Please don't enable extremism just because the Far Right is in your voting block. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

To summarize it. The nuts are running the nuthouse and Conservative Republicans can't win unless they pander to the Far Right. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

In what sense? Religion is a communicable form of mental illness by definition, and Islam is one of the most pathological strains - both in theory and practice. Given that Sharia is a fact of life in all too much of the Muslim majority parts of the planet, and is viewed favorably by a large percentage of Muslims in civilized parts of the world, concern about the adherence to Muslim Law in otherwise rational individuals is hardly without merit. Islam is by no means an ideology of 'live and let live' or peaceful coexistence, though it is touted as such by some of its adherents. Given the propensity for waging Jihad upon Infidels et al., and summary execution of apostates and atheists on an ongoing basis, viewing Islam with trepidation is extremely valid. Living in an area with a proliferation of Funnel Web Spiders, Irukandji jellyfish, or Stonefish, being scared shitless of them is rational. In general, there is no such thing as 'Islamophobia.' BSBD, Winsor Christianity and Judaism are no better yet we ignore all the calls to put people to death and cut off their hands for arbitrary infractions. There was a time when this wasn't so. I'm a Godfather to my best friend's daughter and I'm atheist, they're holiday Christians, yet if you applied your logic to Christians as you do Islam then I'm going to cut your hands off if your wife touches my donkey or some bullshit like that. All because it's written in the Bronze Age book called the Holy Bible just as “Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and capture them, and blockade them, and watch for them at every lookout...” is written in the Quran (Quran 9:5). "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

She goes by Susie Hanks Paiser now. https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=susie%20hanks%20paiser "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

When people resort to buzzwords like 'Islamophobia" it tends to discredit their stance. I consider it hardly unrealistic to have the odd misgiving about people who hold to an ideology that states in no uncertain terms that I am to be summarily put to death. This concern does not meet the definition of a 'phobia' in any sense. The boogeymen of the left are enumerated by the SPLC, and it is considered de rigueur to hate the 'hate groups' so defined. I hang out with guys with swastika tattoos (when you ride an outlaw Harley it comes with the territory) and spend a lot of time with people from Muslim backgrounds. Nevertheless, my concerns regarding National Socialism and Islam are solidly grounded in fact, and reference to 'phobia' is an exercise in obfuscation. BSBD, Winsor "I consider it hardly unrealistic to have the odd misgiving about people who hold to an ideology that states in no uncertain terms that I am to be summarily put to death. This concern does not meet the definition of a 'phobia' in any sense." Irony score 10/10. Since his points put you face down in the mud, I agree there is a bit of irony here. Irony is saying that the Islamic faith "states that in no uncertain terms I am to be summarily put to death" as a counterpoint to my statement that people have unfounded fears about Islam. Did I hear you wrong? Rush...go away. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher