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Okay now I really want to go to Eloy, just to see that shit I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Its Atreyu and Falkor the Luck Dragon http://us.imdb.com/Title?0088323 I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

BURNED!!!! Everyone has already listened to me bitching about my job. but I am actively seeking new places of emplyment and it has rejuvenated my spirit to know that I am leaving

Oh yeah, give me some freaky shit any day I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

read the fucking manual? I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

"These hands, they look like.... big strong hands. but I could not hold them..." That is a great fricking movie I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Rev, when are you coming back to the Southeast, we have gotto get together I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

My Birthday is March first, so who is going to start sending PM's to RNnSC23 to let me go to Ne W'arlins for my birthday? I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Aaahh..... AAHHHHhh GROUND RUSH!!!! I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

well, I will not knock your preferences, some people like slapstick and others appreciate the humor of the scripts I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

>Plus, I'd like my headstone to look like a Javelin with the carvings on the reserve cover. Dude, If I can't have a Javelin, I'm not jumping I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Shrew, sorry for the delay in replying, and if it is OK with you I will not rehash the same nitpicky items and save a little bandwith Thank you, we actually really do try and do the right thing. ( And there is no sarcasm meant in that reply) How would you feel if your country which was supposedly at peace was so suddenly and violently attacked, more severely than had been seen in sixty years? I might have missed something since Friday, since I don't follow the news on the weekends, but the last I heard the UN team had been approved, if something differnent has happened please advise. And there have been since 1991, they are enforcing something know as the UN No-Fly Zone Sorry, I guess that I did misinterpret the meaning of your original statement. I guess that I am tired of the rest of the world forgetting that the Pacific Theater ws really where America came to shine. ( For all of you U.ncle S.am's M.isguided C.hildren reading this... Simper Fi! When every nation, business (Bayer etc,etc) owns up. If you survived the time around holocaust when you were just born, you would be somewhere around 50 by now, and all you will know about it will be of someone's stories. So the people who were affected by slavery are not the mass of Jewish people still alive. The holocaust may have left orphans or relatives. But I have never heard of a descendant of a slave or orphan of another race or religion demanding compensation so loudly (correct me if I'm wrong). Loud? Yes, but if not factual, why would Bayer, and VW, and Switzerland have complied so quickly and then offered apologies? I think the Jewish people in Israel are as much terrorists as are the Palestinians there. Nope, terrorist attack civillians, like the Palestininas do, Israel is sending forces to capture the ones who would do so, please view earlier post. No, it is not better to just bomb a house, but a misdropped/thrown bomb that is called collateral damage, not a target, alwas a very regrettable accident, but not the way terrorist see it. I was under the impression that they had always been there, just not that publicized, the global press, still likes Europe. Not in this country, just ask the soldiers and or the anti-war protesters from the Vietnam era, our press has some rather great freedoms Both sides have terrorists, but also "normal" people. I have met several Jewish and Palestinian Israeli citizens over the past few years, including this year. Both were of that opinion. There is even a group of Jewish women who call themselves Women in Black, that stand in the streets to protest for that cause once a week. The Israeli govt IS a very conservative one, which does fall under the religiously extremist/fanatic imho. That doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of the Jewish Israelis. Does that matter at that point? If they were "thrown into the sea", the UN would have stepped in. The boundaries were broken several times. Fine, by me, be the agressor and lose the contest, you don't really have much to comlpain about. Don't start trouble, there will not be trouble. I ws under the impression that there already were pretty strict lines, but one side, does not like them. Pick a fight, loose, deal with it But who is doing the pushing? You are correct, but who is pushing that idea the strongest? The US maybe? Israel is supposed to get devided to form a new Israel and a new Palestine. Just some German Foreign exchange students back in 1998 at my University who were extremely surprised by the lack of information that they had been handed growing up No one really Very, true, I hope that maybe I fall into the category of the un-lazy scholar Does Ancient Egypt qualify But I don't like beer anyway How about a shot of tequilla? And Gentlemen that is it for me today, my fingers are way too tired to continue this discussion right now, if you will all excuse me, I think that I will adjourn and go back to posting about BOOBIES edit to say: DAMN that was long and whomever reads through it all... YOU DA MAN!!! I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

One at a time please gentlemen, unless there are others out and about who would care to join in j/k You are correct, but what would happen if the US did not give grain to the USSR even though they were our enemies at the time, or how about the billions of dollars of war debt from our enemies and our allies that we forgave, how about the fact that whenever a minor flodd happens the US sends help, uncaring for what we shall see in return. Do not bite the hand that feeds, for it may not return debateable? Ask the Afghani children who are know receiving real medical attention regardless of gender what they think. Yet again, we are stereotyed, in my life I have only known two people to own those hulking monstosities(sp?), almost everyone that I know works just as hard for their money as you and buys autos according to economics. Several of my friends chose to ride a bicicyle in light of the economy. And no we are not all cowboys either Try ten. But hell in twenty I hope to still be here, with a relatively young family, nip the problem in the bud, or face what the world did back in 1938. But what about our allies? Yet again, please read my previous post, what if the US leaves NATO and the UN, who shall the rest of the world turn to? If we shall be your ally, then please be ours. That part of the world can claim several different times of US alliance, can't argue with you about any. Almost true, the CIA and the DOD were aware, but the general populace...no, we were not. So very true, non-NATO members, but would that stop you from helping your co-worker, or your grocer or your random neighbor if they were being attacked, just because they did not belong to the same country club as you? No, and that is nation-state polotics writ large. Yup, and to our grocer who asked for help, do you really think that the Kuwaiti's would have given medals to our (and I mean the coalition troops) if they did not want us there, or do you think that the Saudi's would have let us use KKMC the way that we did? You are right, it was about oil, Saddam's desire to control all of the oil and force the UN/NATO/OPEC/US to submit to its demands, it is called emperialism, and it went away with the Japanese in the '40's Stability, for one, and please do not try and say that there were not numerous other nations contirbuting armed men to the gulf war, that was a UN decision. Stability, for two, since in the past the US has been called upon to do the UN's policing of the trouble spots. I for one would love to see the US pull out of the UN, just to keep or troops home and let everyone then say, " Why aren't you helping us?" Not about oil with Iraq, that country doesn't contian enough oil deposits to concern the US, but the other countries, yes the US is obliged to help some of them, that is what treaties are signed for I think that we have been I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Training Day

Yup, you're right, we are risking our servicemen and women's lives just to save a nickel a gallon for gas. This from the country that gave up almost all of its amenties (ie meat gasoline, silk, tobacco and paper) to fight a war that could have been prevented 6 years prior to our entering. See my previous post, please, I lack the dexterity to re-type the reasons again. Not quite as large as one would like to believe, but thank God that we have the American Judicial system, what, would you rather us chop off the offending hand of the crook, or better yet, just kill anyone for their wrong doing. The penal system is something that we brought across the Atlantic with us, not some new American Idea. Better idea, get off your judgemental soapbox and open your eyes, what or where would the world be if the United States of America had continued its practice of isolationism that we cherished before the First World War? I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

1896 was the start, I think 108 years, not 200, but that is nitpicky. and as I said there is no way for me to feel or understand the way you must have felt, but please refrain from talking my statements out of the context in which they were made. If you are going to reply to a post, please reply to it all and do not pick apart and use what yuo want, that is poor debating. By right of law the president has 90 days before he must ask the legislative leadership for a declaraion of war in which to act or re-act as the case may have it. You may be correct, but I have as of yet heard of any mass deployments unerway, when the 82nd Airborne Division, America's Guard of Honor, heads to the Corps Marhalling Area, then we can discuss the troops [qoute] It seems the main reason IS access to Iraqi oil, which has been so stated by Bush. Now why am I remembering Iraqs invasion into Kuwait, which was for access to Kuwaiti oil? What makes an ally, surely you do not like all the people that you work with. Yet you help them when you can, since you all depend on the same thing (ie paycheck). But is that form of alliance not allowed when dealing with nation states? Should the US not be an ally with Germany because we speak a different native tounge, or Spain or France who practices a Socialistic form of commerce that is so different from our Capitalism? But yet when someone that we do business with is over ran, their land/homes taken from them, we should not help them, because we do business with them? Do I think that? No. But when you play for a team, you play for the team, and make some considerations, such as, if the US goes to war with Iraq, are they going to launch missiles at Israel? unless I have missed something in the past two days there is no war, just the US forcing the Iraqi government to abide by the UN sacntions set in place eleven years ago. No, we did not, the Soviets carried the brunt of that fight, we did contirbute, but had it not been for the USSR and the cold Russian winter, D-day probably never would have happend, it would not have happened in 1945 due to German strength and in 1946 the Nazi's almost assuredly would have had the "Bomb", what would that have done to the invasion armada? When every nation, business (Bayer etc,etc) owns up. you are correct there were others, Poles, Gypsies, French et all, but the fraction that you so flippantly mention is more than 3/4ths of the total Nazi concentration camps. Are they whining, or are they the only people that were subjugated to Hitler's insanity who are still fighting for the right to exist? See my previos post about the war in which the Palestians and other Arab nations tried to push the Jews into the sea in 1967. Nope, terrorist attack civillians, like the Palestininas do, Israel is sending forces to capture the ones who would do so, please view earlier post. [qoute]If you see the Israeli map of 1967 and compare it to today's map, you will probably be shocked. Which one are you refering to the one before or after they were suddenly attacked? And Saddam is definately not the only state supporting the Palestinians. I deleted the rest of your post Shrew, in concern for space and the fact that the "creating a mess" question is one that I have never heard and have nothing to debate on the point I ws under the impression that there already were pretty strict lines, but one side, does not like them. Pick a fight, loose, deal with it I guess we will Just some German Foreign exchange students back in 1998 at my University who were extremely surprised by the lack of information that they had been handed growing up No one really I suggest telling your govt that last sentence. We, do try, and show me a country who has done as much in 226 years of existance to right the worlds wrongs and I will owe you a beer or two I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Dying?.... BULSHIT!!! I am going to live forever, hey they say that only the good die young, I have a shot at eternity I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Casch, I appreciate your concern, but I think that you missed the sarcasm, hence one more instance of the internet not being able to carry the tone of a conversation as well as we would all like. Do not get me wrong your heartfelt concern is a wonderful thing, but I think that he was using sarcasm to emphasise the ignorance it would take to attempt to land a wingsuit at this time in there development. But good thoughts do keep you doing good things, good job. I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

[Caveman voice] UGGHHH, Fisting BAAAADDD!!![/Caveman voice] And to JESSEFS Feed me Seymore, Feed ME I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Faber I can not say that we as a nation have not hidden the truth for a long long time from our youth, very few people here realize the strife that the US placed upon the American Indians up to the fact that the modern day man on the street would never realize that the US actually supported Hitler when he first came into office, a) because he was democratically elected, and b) he opposed Communism, but we as a nation are getting better by the minute and there is almost no information that one cannot find if looking, hell I have proof that the largest slave owner in the state of South Carolina was a black woman in Beaufort, who owned over 2,000 slaves, but we definately do not teach that in our public shcools. I agree, and conceed, I will throw no more stones, but there is still some truth and irony to what I said. I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

No sweat, we had our wars, even though no real help was ever offered from any other nation, ecxept for those that had something to gain (ie land, commerce or titles) and by the by the only war that was 2 centuries ago was the American Revolution, the last, the Spanish American war, was around the turn of the 20th century. VERY! News flash, we live in the age of ICBM's, Intercontinental ballistic missles, and no the US is definately not the only nation to have them. No I have not, there is absolutely no way for me to relate to how you must have felt and for that I am sorry, but since I, nor my father, or my father's father have not had to deal with that, doesn't that mean that we, the United States should pull out of the UN and NATO and let the rest of the world deal with its own problems. I mean hey, we seem to have two rather large bodies of water separating us from the rest of the world, we handle our corner and let the rest do there own thing. But wait, that means no more US soldiers as peacekeepers in the Balkans, attempting to keep every one from killing themselves, and definately no more US forces in Somalia, trying to make sure that starving people get the Red Cross supplies of food, (that their "WarLords" would rather horde for their own gain) and we probalbly will not ever be seen in Rawanda again, and the AIDS epidemic in Africa, bah they don't really need our help. But Uncle Ben from Spider man siad it best, "With power comes great resposiblity" I for one am not the biggest supporter of the handling of the Iraq situation and the "Axis of Evil", but our allies do (ie those people that the world shunned until 1945, yeah you know them, the Jews, we as a civillized society owe a debt for idly standing by, IMHO.) Sadamm is giving rewards to the Palestinian Suicide bober's family's, and by the way how long do you have to live somewhere before you are no longer a refugee? The Palestinians have been where they are since their grandparents waged an agressive war to push Israel into the sea, well you picked a fight, you lost, deal with it. Let's hope that we (us Americans) elected the right man and that he is not blowing of steam, but making an informed decision/stand. And I neither am a member of the Iraqi fan club, but there are larger dangers in the world that need to be dealt with first, ( N. Korea and Suadi Arabia. Two agressive conflicts with 35 years, in a country that refuse to even teach its children about the errors of their leadership at that time, nay to even teach them about that era at all, that is mildly ironic. If you forget the past, it will be come your future. I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

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heres some pics setting up, look at those holes wow I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle

Ouch Dave, that sucks, that is almost enough for a new G3 Hope it all works out I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle